Liberals - Is it ok to redistribute your GPA

Blockhead
Blockhead Posts: 1,538
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
Those of you for wealth redistribution, It should only be fair that students GPA's also be redsitributed. Right?
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Blockhead wrote:
    Those of you for wealth redistribution, It should only be fair that students GPA's also be redsitributed. Right?

    right... :lol:
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    inmytree wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Those of you for wealth redistribution, It should only be fair that students GPA's also be redsitributed. Right?

    right... :lol:
    It's interesting how you take that sarcastic approach. Are you of the position that it's not fair with 'well because I worked for it and they didn't'. Surely you have a better argument for GPA redistribution not being fair?
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Oh God... just when I thought I had heard the worst analogies ever... now I've heard everything. :roll:
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    Blockhead wrote:
    Those of you for wealth redistribution, It should only be fair that students GPA's also be redsitributed. Right?
    when has gpa determined wealth earned? fact is, most employers do not even look at gpa when hiring....

    poor analogy, try again.

    also nobody here is advocating redistribution of wealth. we are advocating putting taxes on the wealthiest one percent to the clinton era levels, but of course you would never know that, since most of us have stated it repeatedly...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    _ wrote:
    Oh God... just when I thought I had heard the worst analogies ever... now I've heard everything. :roll:
    How is GPA redistribution not similar to wealth redistribution? Helping people out that may not have been given the same advantages in life, or may have issues that make it more difficult for them to succeed in the setting?

    The only real differences I see between the two is that 1 is finite (GPA) and it can have large implications for determining other outcomes, such as grad school. Although one could argue that for income too (whether you get invited to a certain country club, getting a certain credit card, investment opportunities, etc.) there are similar implications...
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Obviously making another analogy. I forget how blunt and simple you have to be here in the Moving Train sometimes, sorry. Let's say you can inherit a GPA, and the same number of college kids (per capita) inherit their 4.0 as there are rich people (rich as defined by uncle sam) who inherited their wealth.

    It is now okay to redistribute the GDP's of those people earning 4.0's? The bar will have to of course be lowered when people earning 3.5 and above no longer see the point of the extra effort. Hopefully we can eventually just give everyone degrees at birth by virtue of being born Americans and achieve true equality
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    how about this - you are stranded in a remote area with no chance of rescue for a while (months) ... someone kills a deer ... should he:

    1. eat what he wants and let the rest go to waste?
    2. share it with other stranded people?
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Blockhead wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Oh God... just when I thought I had heard the worst analogies ever... now I've heard everything. :roll:
    How is GPA redistribution not similar to wealth redistribution? Helping people out that may not have been given the same advantages in life, or may have issues that make it more difficult for them to succeed in the setting?

    The only real differences I see between the two is that 1 is finite (GPA) and it can have large implications for determining other outcomes, such as grad school. Although one could argue that for income too (whether you get invited to a certain country club, getting a certain credit card, investment opportunities, etc.) there are similar implications...

    GPA is a DESCRIPTION of one's performance in school. Money is a RESOURCE.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    polaris_x wrote:
    how about this - you are stranded in a remote area with no chance of rescue for a while (months) ... someone kills a deer ... should he:

    1. eat what he wants and let the rest go to waste?
    2. share it with other stranded people?
    Start your own thread, your to simple for this one...
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    polaris_x wrote:
    how about this - you are stranded in a remote area with no chance of rescue for a while (months) ... someone kills a deer ... should he:

    1. eat what he wants and let the rest go to waste?
    2. share it with other stranded people?

    Excellent analogy. But, I agree with Blockhead: There's no room in this thread for things that make sense.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Blockhead wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    how about this - you are stranded in a remote area with no chance of rescue for a while (months) ... someone kills a deer ... should he:

    1. eat what he wants and let the rest go to waste?
    2. share it with other stranded people?
    Start your own thread, your to simple for this one...

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    _ wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    how about this - you are stranded in a remote area with no chance of rescue for a while (months) ... someone kills a deer ... should he:

    1. eat what he wants and let the rest go to waste?
    2. share it with other stranded people?

    Excellent analogy. But, I agree with Blockhead: There's no room in this thread for things that make sense.
    SO tell me Why this analogy doesn't work?
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Ok, lets say one man is more endowed than another man...hmmm, should he chop off a few inches and give it to a less endowed man? I think this analogy is much more fitting.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    if you have 18 letters in your name ... should you give some to people who have less?
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    _ wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    How is GPA redistribution not similar to wealth redistribution? Helping people out that may not have been given the same advantages in life, or may have issues that make it more difficult for them to succeed in the setting?

    The only real differences I see between the two is that 1 is finite (GPA) and it can have large implications for determining other outcomes, such as grad school. Although one could argue that for income too (whether you get invited to a certain country club, getting a certain credit card, investment opportunities, etc.) there are similar implications...

    GPA is a DESCRIPTION of one's performance in school. Money is a RESOURCE.

    Here's a GPA analogy for you:

    I have blonde hair & blue eyes, and they bring me a certain amount of privilge. Only a minority of people in this country have (natural :lol: ) blonde hair & blue eyes. My appearance is described on various documents, like my driver's license. "Redistributing" people's GPAs would be like "redistributing" the hair & eye colors on driver's licenses, saying some people have different appearances than they really have. But this isn't a redistribution of the attributes that bring me privilege - only a misrepresentation of them. If you wanted to affect resource allocation, you should change the system that privileges people with blonde hair & blue eyes - and good GPAs.

    The analogous redistribution regarding money would be to lie on people's W-2s. You're still not redistributing the wealth; you're just redistributing the description of the wealth.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    _ wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Oh God... just when I thought I had heard the worst analogies ever... now I've heard everything. :roll:
    How is GPA redistribution not similar to wealth redistribution? Helping people out that may not have been given the same advantages in life, or may have issues that make it more difficult for them to succeed in the setting?

    The only real differences I see between the two is that 1 is finite (GPA) and it can have large implications for determining other outcomes, such as grad school. Although one could argue that for income too (whether you get invited to a certain country club, getting a certain credit card, investment opportunities, etc.) there are similar implications...

    GPA is a DESCRIPTION of one's performance in school. Money is a RESOURCE.
    GPA is an idication of performance, Wealth is an indication of performance as well.

    And the reason GPA does not need to be an expendable commodity (resource) needed to live is because it's an are you ready for this..... analogy
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Ok, lets say one man is more endowed than another man...hmmm, should he chop off a few inches and give it to a less endowed man? I think this analogy is much more fitting.
    polaris_x wrote:
    if you have 18 letters in your name ... should you give some to people who have less?

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    You guys are brightening my day by making me laugh so much. :D
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Blockhead wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Those of you for wealth redistribution, It should only be fair that students GPA's also be redsitributed. Right?

    right... :lol:
    It's interesting how you take that sarcastic approach. Are you of the position that it's not fair with 'well because I worked for it and they didn't'. Surely you have a better argument for GPA redistribution not being fair?

    I was agreeing with your well thought out premise...

    why so angry...?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Blockhead wrote:
    GPA is an idication of performance, Wealth is an indication of performance as well.

    And the reason GPA does not need to be an expendable commodity (resource) needed to live is because it's an are you ready for this..... analogy


    you're making perfect sense...

    bravo.... :lol:
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    _ wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    How is GPA redistribution not similar to wealth redistribution? Helping people out that may not have been given the same advantages in life, or may have issues that make it more difficult for them to succeed in the setting?

    The only real differences I see between the two is that 1 is finite (GPA) and it can have large implications for determining other outcomes, such as grad school. Although one could argue that for income too (whether you get invited to a certain country club, getting a certain credit card, investment opportunities, etc.) there are similar implications...

    GPA is a DESCRIPTION of one's performance in school. Money is a RESOURCE.

    Here's a GPA analogy for you:

    I have blonde hair & blue eyes, and they bring me a certain amount of privilge. Only a minority of people in this country have (natural :lol: ) blonde hair & blue eyes. My appearance is described on various documents, like my driver's license. "Redistributing" people's GPAs would be like "redistributing" the hair & eye colors on driver's licenses, saying some people have different appearances than they really have. But this isn't a redistribution of the attributes that bring me privilege - only a misrepresentation of them. If you wanted to affect resource allocation, you should change the system that privileges people with blonde hair & blue eyes - and good GPAs.

    The analogous redistribution regarding money would be to lie on people's W-2s. You're still not redistributing the wealth; you're just redistributing the description of the wealth.
    Hair color is not performance based...
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