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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    QUESTION - So I guess I needed to renew my membership and I did last night. My shit expired at the end of January, but I had till the end of April to retain my membership #. Do you think I'll be able to buy a pair of tix from the presale tomorrow?

    no clue brother...good luck with that.

    I have sales appointments all day tomorrow. gonna be tough for me to find time to get to this pre-sale. this means I'm gonna have to depend on one of my buddies, who I'm sure will fuck this up
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    pjhawks wrote:
    not excited about castillo. he is a dog. i hope they don't keep him. still think there is a chance they make a trade either for Michael Young or someone else. got a bad feeling about Lidge. if Lidge is out for any length of time have to go with Madson over Contreras to close in my opinion. Madson free agent after this year so if Lidge is out for awhile i think you need to find out once and for all if Madson can close long term. just get the games started. spring training has been one long period of aprehension on what can go wrong next. let's get the games going boys.

    Sorry dude, but closers don't mean shit. Lidge is just $12M of waste. 2009 Phils had a full-out catastrophe at closer, and still got 2 games away from a world championship. Contreras will be fine. Madson likes the 8th, and the 8th is just as valuable as the 9th so might as well keep him there. Just let Lidge get healthy and come back in due time.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Just realized a 1.5M option on Lidge after this year. Thank. God.

    And, yeah, Madson is too much of a spaz to be the closer at this point. I like Old Man & The Sea closing.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    not excited about castillo. he is a dog. i hope they don't keep him. still think there is a chance they make a trade either for Michael Young or someone else. got a bad feeling about Lidge. if Lidge is out for any length of time have to go with Madson over Contreras to close in my opinion. Madson free agent after this year so if Lidge is out for awhile i think you need to find out once and for all if Madson can close long term. just get the games started. spring training has been one long period of aprehension on what can go wrong next. let's get the games going boys.

    Sorry dude, but closers don't mean shit. Lidge is just $12M of waste. 2009 Phils had a full-out catastrophe at closer, and still got 2 games away from a world championship. Contreras will be fine. Madson likes the 8th, and the 8th is just as valuable as the 9th so might as well keep him there. Just let Lidge get healthy and come back in due time.

    I agree 1,000% with this

    I also think baez has a solid season
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    not excited about castillo. he is a dog. i hope they don't keep him. still think there is a chance they make a trade either for Michael Young or someone else. got a bad feeling about Lidge. if Lidge is out for any length of time have to go with Madson over Contreras to close in my opinion. Madson free agent after this year so if Lidge is out for awhile i think you need to find out once and for all if Madson can close long term. just get the games started. spring training has been one long period of aprehension on what can go wrong next. let's get the games going boys.

    Sorry dude, but closers don't mean shit. Lidge is just $12M of waste. 2009 Phils had a full-out catastrophe at closer, and still got 2 games away from a world championship. Contreras will be fine. Madson likes the 8th, and the 8th is just as valuable as the 9th so might as well keep him there. Just let Lidge get healthy and come back in due time.

    I don't know about closers not meaning shit, I mean Boston was bounced from the playoffs in 2009 because Papelbon stunk and I would say that Mo has been pretty fucking valuable to the Yankees over the past decade +
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.


    he got hurt?
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.


    he got hurt?

    Been hurt, fucked up knee. Hasn't played all spring.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.


    he got hurt?

    Been hurt, fucked up knee. Hasn't played all spring.


    yikes....

    they have 12 pitchers ..they will be fine
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.

    I don't mean to sound overdramatic, but his status makes or breaks their season (assuming the 4 starters stay healthy).

    Lidge MRI tomorrow

    Supposed to rain Friday. That would suck ass

    Also, hit the doctor today and it's official. My boys can swim. It's early to start telling people according to my wife, but I'm telling everyone I know she won't talk to :D . Now I guess we just hope for the best over the next few months.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.

    I don't mean to sound overdramatic, but his status makes or breaks their season (assuming the 4 starters stay healthy).

    Lidge MRI tomorrow

    Supposed to rain Friday. That would suck ass

    Also, hit the doctor today and it's official. My boys can swim. It's early to start telling people according to my wife, but I'm telling everyone I know she won't talk to :D . Now I guess we just hope for the best over the next few months.


    LOL congrats....

    u will be fine w/ out utley//// with that staff...
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Utley is hoping to be back by the all star break, he says.

    I don't mean to sound overdramatic, but his status makes or breaks their season (assuming the 4 starters stay healthy).

    Lidge MRI tomorrow

    Supposed to rain Friday. That would suck ass

    Also, hit the doctor today and it's official. My boys can swim. It's early to start telling people according to my wife, but I'm telling everyone I know she won't talk to :D . Now I guess we just hope for the best over the next few months.


    atta guy. congrats!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    oh boy....anyone see the cover of the new sports illustrated?

    http://www.wheresweems.com/?p=7339


    we're screwed! :lol:


    (pretty bad ass though)
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    I think I'm talking myself off the ledge. This team has been through thick & thin the past 5 years or so, and they've shown their guts & guile. From being 7 & 3.5 down with 17 to go to disastrous seasons for closers to 2/3 of the freakin' lineup being hurt, they just keep winning, and only bad luck kept them from the Series last year. They will be fine. 8-)
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I think I'm talking myself off the ledge. This team has been through thick & thin the past 5 years or so, and they've shown their guts & guile. From being 7 & 3.5 down with 17 to go to disastrous seasons for closers to 2/3 of the freakin' lineup being hurt, they just keep winning, and only bad luck kept them from the Series last year. They will be fine. 8-)

    Totally. The fact that they led the Majors in wins last year despite all the injuries as well as spans of complete offensive ineptitude is encouraging
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,371
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I think I'm talking myself off the ledge. This team has been through thick & thin the past 5 years or so, and they've shown their guts & guile. From being 7 & 3.5 down with 17 to go to disastrous seasons for closers to 2/3 of the freakin' lineup being hurt, they just keep winning, and only bad luck kept them from the Series last year. They will be fine. 8-)

    Totally. The fact that they led the Majors in wins last year despite all the injuries as well as spans of complete offensive ineptitude is encouraging

    Sometimes teams & players just know how to win. You can't reflect that in WAR or VORP or OPS or UZR.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Oh boy, here we go. What have these guys won?
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Oh boy, here we go. What have these guys won?

    I assume you're talking about the five starting pitchers. Well if you must know, they've won a combined 571 games and lost 342....good for a .625 win percentage (regular and postseason).
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I think I'm talking myself off the ledge. This team has been through thick & thin the past 5 years or so, and they've shown their guts & guile. From being 7 & 3.5 down with 17 to go to disastrous seasons for closers to 2/3 of the freakin' lineup being hurt, they just keep winning, and only bad luck kept them from the Series last year. They will be fine. 8-)

    Totally. The fact that they led the Majors in wins last year despite all the injuries as well as spans of complete offensive ineptitude is encouraging

    Sometimes teams & players just know how to win. You can't reflect that in WAR or VORP or OPS or UZR.


    agreed.

    i also like how it has become trendy to pick any team other than the phils this year too. that plus the injuries will put a pretty big chip on their shoulders which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    with any luck, 2-6 comes back around mid season in time for the phils to make their patented late season push.

    GO.
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