I still think they should just Fedex the tickets. I understand some tickets would be scalped but if it's only sent out a few days before it would limited the places they could be sold. Most sites stop listing tickets for sale a few days before the event.
or maybe they could just notify everyone where their seats are a few days before, so it would be easier to notice any problems.
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That is so messed up.
I am not the type of person to get pissy and leave though.
However, send out the tix! What is the big deal here?? If someone is going to scalp fanclub tix, they only get 4 anyway.
This is obviously a system that seems to be breaking down in certain venues.
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the envelopes just need a seal, preferably some cool Klausen designed seal.
That would solve the problem!
I wonder how much they'd go for on ebay
But seriously, it's the way to go. Even just 10c envelops. I doubt they'd have time to do this for msg though. Likely everything is packed up already.
If they need help though, I'll gladly do it. All I ask for is a measly front row center ticket for the three shows I'm attending
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
msg was being packed up on monday and sadly i heard names being pulled out in the background
I wonder how much they'd go for on ebay
But seriously, it's the way to go. Even just 10c envelops. I doubt they'd have time to do this for msg though. Likely everything is packed up already.
If they need help though, I'll gladly do it. All I ask for is a measly front row center ticket for the three shows I'm attending
msg was being packed up on monday and sadly i heard names being pulled out in the background
I still think they should just Fedex the tickets. I understand some tickets would be scalped but if it's only sent out a few days before it would limited the places they could be sold. Most sites stop listing tickets for sale a few days before the event.
That wouldn't be too good for the people following most of the tour.......
It's really pretty simple, make special tix for Ten Club members that DON"T look anything like the ticketmaster ones. This is what Grateful Dead used to do when you would mail order tickets from them, I tried to take a picture as an example.
These tickets look NOTHING like Ticketmaster.......a lot of people like to compare the way PJ does things with the Dead, well how about making Ten Club tickets look very different from other ones to prvent these thing from happening.
the best system to prevent this I've ever seen is the Nine inch Nails fanclub.
They give you two sets of tickets, the fanclub printed tix with your name on them and the corresponding venue ticket with the same seat #s.
I did this at MSG, HOB in Atlantic City, PNC in NJ, and Jones beach. The only difference is, that when you buy your tix presale they tell you your seats, so I guess it wouldn't work as well for 10C but even that little bit of extra work would be worth it IMHO. I'd pay even $10 per ticket to assure that scummy people aren't tampering w/my tickets. How low can you go?
For the 3 shows I went to in 06, I clearly remember the tickets being kept in a white envelope. I think it's actually better to get there early to pick them up as opposed to closer to the show. There is more chance of a ticket switch when the lines are shorter. Still very unfortunate.
this is probably true
but regardless this whole situation is uncalled for and worrisome...perhaps the envelopes should be sealed shut?
Jesus Christ!! WTF is going on?? Has there been any probs at the other shows or is this just an isolated situation with some bad apples at the venue?? I'm starting to get nervous about next week's shows i'm going to at MSG.
HA!
you really wanna know??
1st time after 27 shows I got rejected at the door and AFTER all my friends were let in in Tampa, ad the bitch wouldnt even let them come back out to help me out since they were the ones that got me the ticket, until they found out that everybody could go outside on the right for the smoking area which she failed to mention, SO basically I was left on my own to handle a ticket I didnt know about. Im not a fanclub member and it wasnt my number so I pretty much turned into Hulk storming my way back to the box office and told them that this was a tenC ticket and its already been used when thats imPOSSIBLE cause the people JUST picked it up from here...so they took it back left me for like 15 minutes while more people came behind me with the same drama and finally came back and told me I was good to go. I went back to the same lady and turnstyle and it was ok...luckily cause I mighta gotten arrested in Tampa for doing something stupid..Ive never had that kinda thing happen b4 at games or any concerts so I was a lil flipped out about it
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this shit has been going on for a while. as soon as you give control to people who can make money off of the tickets, youre in trouble. corruption is human nature. the easiest solution would be to print tickets with the buyer's name on them, as previously mentioned. if PJ did it back in 1995, I'm sure they can pull it off now.
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The NIN Spiral was great, the guy that runs the club is at every show handing out the tickets himself personally. Tenclub should take it one step farther and have the members name and photo on the tickets itself. Shouldn't be hard to upload a photo onto you tenclub profile for them to put on your tickets.
Jason
I vote for Jason to handle tix
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WOW! how terrible! i feel really bad for all of those who this effected. :(
i thought 10c staff handled tix distribution? i thought that was how it was always done? is it new that they leave it to venue staff? it's a real shame....b/c people KNOW what these things are worth, etc....and doing a switch like that, terribly duplicitous.....:mad: i am glad 10c promptly apologized to you and certainly saddened that nothing could be done the night of the show for you all. i appreciate you alerting 10c in the hopes of avoiding such for all fans in the future.
They should NOT put the 10c number on the envelope where someone who knows about numbers could pick which ones were best. Sealing the envelopes would at least be a good start.
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The NIN Spiral was great, the guy that runs the club is at every show handing out the tickets himself personally. Tenclub should take it one step farther and have the members name and photo on the tickets itself. Shouldn't be hard to upload a photo onto you tenclub profile for them to put on your tickets.
Jason
now TR's taken that one step further by making it FREE to anyone who signs up at nin.com, same premise, names printed on tickets without the $60/year fee.
/off PJ topic
also, you DO realize for those of us going to MSG that it's notorious there at the boxoffice for being the most corrupt? I've heard horror stories about scalpers/employees working in tandem.
Trent is going crazy with all this free stuff lately. If they wanna give away free downloads that's great, but I think there has to be membership fees to access tickets. The free sign up gave way too many scalpers access for the ticket sales and I got shut out for Red Rocks. It reminded me of buying tix for "some other band."
Have fun at MSG guys!!
yea but you get 2 tix and both have your name on them right?
premium tickets for all nine inch nails headline dates will be made available to registered nin.com members in advance of public on sales. pre sale tickets are personalize with the buyers legal name printed on the face of the ticket and ID will be required for pickup and entry into the venue on night of show. ticket supplies for pre sales are limited and available on a first come, first serve basis. our goal is to put the best tickets in the hands of the fans and not in the hands of ticket scalpers and/or brokers.
yes, they have your name on them, and you are supposed to enter the venue immediately, this way if a scalper buys them he either has to do his business superfast or go in and only sell one ticket, I guess. There is no perfect way but this helps cut it down a lot. they simply go elsewhere to do their scalping, where there is no security measure in place.
also, you DO realize for those of us going to MSG that it's notorious there at the boxoffice for being the most corrupt? I've heard horror stories about scalpers/employees working in tandem.
absolutely!
first thought in my mind actually......:(
it's sad all the safeguards that have to be thought up, put into place...b/c people can oftentimes be so corrupt. something as innocuous and fun as a concert....bought and sold and schemed.......
this is why i also thought 10c handled all the tix. they did in 2003, did they not?
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or maybe they could just notify everyone where their seats are a few days before, so it would be easier to notice any problems.
Won't let the darkness swallow me.
I am not the type of person to get pissy and leave though.
However, send out the tix! What is the big deal here?? If someone is going to scalp fanclub tix, they only get 4 anyway.
This is obviously a system that seems to be breaking down in certain venues.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
That would solve the problem!
I wonder how much they'd go for on ebay
But seriously, it's the way to go. Even just 10c envelops. I doubt they'd have time to do this for msg though. Likely everything is packed up already.
If they need help though, I'll gladly do it. All I ask for is a measly front row center ticket for the three shows I'm attending
msg was being packed up on monday and sadly i heard names being pulled out in the background
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
2 per show muuuah
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
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That wouldn't be too good for the people following most of the tour.......
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lol not that i remember ,, and sadly it wasnt my last name neither
can i get a bonus package
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These tickets look NOTHING like Ticketmaster.......a lot of people like to compare the way PJ does things with the Dead, well how about making Ten Club tickets look very different from other ones to prvent these thing from happening.
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They give you two sets of tickets, the fanclub printed tix with your name on them and the corresponding venue ticket with the same seat #s.
I did this at MSG, HOB in Atlantic City, PNC in NJ, and Jones beach. The only difference is, that when you buy your tix presale they tell you your seats, so I guess it wouldn't work as well for 10C but even that little bit of extra work would be worth it IMHO. I'd pay even $10 per ticket to assure that scummy people aren't tampering w/my tickets. How low can you go?
this is probably true
but regardless this whole situation is uncalled for and worrisome...perhaps the envelopes should be sealed shut?
If most everyone else who worked at the box office was not white, then, yeah, probably.
The question is, would you have thought that was "fucked up?" Probably not.
for the least they could possibly do
you really wanna know??
1st time after 27 shows I got rejected at the door and AFTER all my friends were let in in Tampa, ad the bitch wouldnt even let them come back out to help me out since they were the ones that got me the ticket, until they found out that everybody could go outside on the right for the smoking area which she failed to mention, SO basically I was left on my own to handle a ticket I didnt know about. Im not a fanclub member and it wasnt my number so I pretty much turned into Hulk storming my way back to the box office and told them that this was a tenC ticket and its already been used when thats imPOSSIBLE cause the people JUST picked it up from here...so they took it back left me for like 15 minutes while more people came behind me with the same drama and finally came back and told me I was good to go. I went back to the same lady and turnstyle and it was ok...luckily cause I mighta gotten arrested in Tampa for doing something stupid..Ive never had that kinda thing happen b4 at games or any concerts so I was a lil flipped out about it
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
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Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
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i thought 10c staff handled tix distribution? i thought that was how it was always done? is it new that they leave it to venue staff? it's a real shame....b/c people KNOW what these things are worth, etc....and doing a switch like that, terribly duplicitous.....:mad: i am glad 10c promptly apologized to you and certainly saddened that nothing could be done the night of the show for you all. i appreciate you alerting 10c in the hopes of avoiding such for all fans in the future.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
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MSG I 6-24-08, Philadelphia 10-31-09
now TR's taken that one step further by making it FREE to anyone who signs up at nin.com, same premise, names printed on tickets without the $60/year fee.
/off PJ topic
also, you DO realize for those of us going to MSG that it's notorious there at the boxoffice for being the most corrupt? I've heard horror stories about scalpers/employees working in tandem.
yea but you get 2 tix and both have your name on them right?
premium tickets for all nine inch nails headline dates will be made available to registered nin.com members in advance of public on sales. pre sale tickets are personalize with the buyers legal name printed on the face of the ticket and ID will be required for pickup and entry into the venue on night of show. ticket supplies for pre sales are limited and available on a first come, first serve basis. our goal is to put the best tickets in the hands of the fans and not in the hands of ticket scalpers and/or brokers.
absolutely!
first thought in my mind actually......:(
it's sad all the safeguards that have to be thought up, put into place...b/c people can oftentimes be so corrupt. something as innocuous and fun as a concert....bought and sold and schemed.......
this is why i also thought 10c handled all the tix. they did in 2003, did they not?
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow