I Have Failed as a Parent and PJ Fan, Help Needed

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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    Silly thread.
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  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Don't worry.

    I was into really shitty music up until I was 12-13 years old. Bullshit rap and pop music that was on the radio at the time ie: Mili Vanilli and Paula Abdul (gasp).

    Turns out that my father had an amazing record collection (Queen, Sprinsteen, Zep, Floyd, The Who, Beatles, Stones, The Doors,Mowtown)

    Unfortunately I never paid any attention to it because I thought it was "Old people music"

    This all changed when my Father and My Uncle took me to go see The Who at the Pontiac Silverdome (88-89 tour). My life changed in front like 100,000 plus fans. It was the most amazing spectical I'd ever seen in my life.

    After that night, I completly changed direction. I started paying attention to my Fathers records spinning the records endlessly.

    The Who became the most important band in my life. They just ruled the world in my eyes. Along with The Beatles it was all I listened to.

    I was an outcast amoung my friends who were still listening to the shitty pop and rap crap that was on the radio. I couldn't understand why my Fathers generation had all this amazing music that I related to so much and why my generation had all of this shit music that seemed so garbage in comparison.

    Then....

    It was September and I just started High School. So I'm riding home on the bus some older dude that was sitting next to me noticed that I was listening to Who's Next on my walkman. He passed me 2 tapes and said that I'd probably enjoy them.

    Those 2 tapes were....

    Nevermind and Ten

    He told me that he'd seen one of these bands (Pearl Jam) live and that they did a great cover of Baba O'Reily which was my song in the world at the time.

    I listened to both those albums over and over and over

    from there I went on to discover Punk Rock, Obscure Classic Rock, Metal ect ect.

    Long story short...I'm now a huge music fan...Pearl Jam and The Who are still the centre of my universe....but I own over 3,000 albums!!

    Your son will change...just give him a nudge in the right direction every once and a while and he will discover real music.

    Later
  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    Give me a break, dude. Seriously. I think it is asinine when parents assume that by being the "cool dad" they will automatically raise some miniature version of Eddie Vedder from the get-go.
    I have an 11 year old girl & she couldn't care LESS about PJ. Her idea of hell, I'm sure, would be to have to sit through an entire concert.

    I have the kind of job that allows me to travel with many musicians and expose my daughter to just about every type of music any good PJ fan could want to expose their kids to. You know what my daughter does 3/4 of the time we're out on tour? Plays chess with the bus driver and researches alternative fuel sources. If she wants to be around me, she'll come find me- and then fall asleep on the soundboard.

    Kids decide what they like. Better to have them exposed to everything & go through a good Jonas Brothers phase and get over that than to only be exposed to one thing & become a mindless idiot.

    Get over it.
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    riffrandall wrote:
    Give me a break, dude. Seriously. I think it is asinine when parents assume that by being the "cool dad" they will automatically raise some miniature version of Eddie Vedder from the get-go.
    I have an 11 year old girl & she couldn't care LESS about PJ. Her idea of hell, I'm sure, would be to have to sit through an entire concert.

    I have the kind of job that allows me to travel with many musicians and expose my daughter to just about every type of music any good PJ fan could want to expose their kids to. You know what my daughter does 3/4 of the time we're out on tour? Plays chess with the bus driver and researches alternative fuel sources. If she wants to be around me, she'll come find me- and then fall asleep on the soundboard.

    Kids decide what they like. Better to have them exposed to everything & go through a good Jonas Brothers phase and get over that than to only be exposed to one thing & become a mindless idiot.

    Get over it.

    He's angry.
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  • LavaLamp_GuitarTramp
    LavaLamp_GuitarTramp Posts: 143
    Being 8 & liking stupid gay shit like Jonas Brothers isn't too bad...

    But if he's 12 & still likes them, frankly the other kids need to kick his ass.
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  • nadja_vedder
    nadja_vedder Posts: 291
    As a lot of people said, don't worry about it, he will definitively grow out of it. When I was younger I used to listen to the pop bands (boy-bands) and all that, until I listen to the Ten Album tape my friend had, after that everything changed!!!
    "makes much more sense, to live in the present tense"
  • flags
    flags Posts: 47
    HollisBrown wrote:
    Enjoy them for who they are, not for who or what you want them to be.

    Well said...
  • Lowkees
    Lowkees Posts: 9
    "Well, here is my life. I have the kind of job which affords me to let my wife raise them but I get to only see them about 1 hour during the week (I actually don't see the 3 year old until the weekends). "

    I'm sorry to say but you have failed as a parent and it has nothing to do with your children's music taste.

    Sounds to me like your job SUCKS if it takes you away from your children. you should be ASHAMED of yourself.
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Lowkees wrote:
    "Well, here is my life. I have the kind of job which affords me to let my wife raise them but I get to only see them about 1 hour during the week (I actually don't see the 3 year old until the weekends). "

    I'm sorry to say but you have failed as a parent and it has nothing to do with your children's music taste.

    Sounds to me like your job SUCKS if it takes you away from your children. you should be ASHAMED of yourself.

    Oh knock it off.
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  • Lowkees
    Lowkees Posts: 9
    Hey Danimal,

    Only spending 1 hour during the week with your kids is not being a parent... It's that simple.
  • ballgame
    ballgame Posts: 201
    Lowkees wrote:
    Hey Danimal,

    Only spending 1 hour during the week with your kids is not being a parent... It's that simple.


    wow is that? no kidding.
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    Although this thread was meant to be silly (as someone pointed out earlier) and a dig on the Jonas Brothers (apparently I need to work on my sarcasm when I am writing), I do appreciate the comments in regards for letting kids be kids. You are right, you can't force things on them and I got to believe that would push them farther away.

    However I do have to take exception to the following response:

    Lowkees wrote:
    "Well, here is my life. I have the kind of job which affords me to let my wife raise them but I get to only see them about 1 hour during the week (I actually don't see the 3 year old until the weekends). "

    I'm sorry to say but you have failed as a parent and it has nothing to do with your children's music taste.

    Sounds to me like your job SUCKS if it takes you away from your children. you should be ASHAMED of yourself.


    Having grown up in a latch key home where both my parents had to work to bring home enough to survive, I barely saw either of my parents. I made it my duty in life to make sure that my kids would have a parent at home to nuture, educate and care for them. My wife, who had a vibrant career also, volunteered for this incredibly important job. I am sure that there are a lot of parents who wish they could be in our shoes and have someone home when the kids arrive from school and for someone there to have dinner with them.
    Secondly, the hour I spend with them on the weedays is made up by spending every waking second on the weekends with them and on the phone with them every chance I get.

    Some people might say why bother having kids if you can't spend time with them, but I believe through the two of us we are spending all the time with them.
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  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    get "guitar hero three" on xbox 360..

    That will fix everything that's broke pretty quick..
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    locked wrote:
    get "guitar hero three" on xbox 360..

    That will fix everything that's broke pretty quick..

    As a matter of fact was playing it last night with the middle child (with my one hour) and the middle one was psyched when PJ came on.
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  • HollisBrown
    HollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    Black Diamond wrote:
    Although this thread was meant to be silly (as someone pointed out earlier) and a dig on the Jonas Brothers (apparently I need to work on my sarcasm when I am writing), I do appreciate the comments in regards for letting kids be kids. You are right, you can't force things on them and I got to believe that would push them farther away.

    However I do have to take exception to the following response:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lowkees
    "Well, here is my life. I have the kind of job which affords me to let my wife raise them but I get to only see them about 1 hour during the week (I actually don't see the 3 year old until the weekends). "

    I'm sorry to say but you have failed as a parent and it has nothing to do with your children's music taste.

    Sounds to me like your job SUCKS if it takes you away from your children. you should be ASHAMED of yourself.
    Unquote

    Having grown up in a latch key home where both my parents had to work to bring home enough to survive, I barely saw either of my parents. I made it my duty in life to make sure that my kids would have a parent at home to nuture, educate and care for them. My wife, who had a vibrant career also, volunteered for this incredibly important job. I am sure that there are a lot of parents who wish they could be in our shoes and have someone home when the kids arrive from school and for someone there to have dinner with them.
    Secondly, the hour I spend with them on the weedays is made up by spending every waking second on the weekends with them and on the phone with them every chance I get.

    Some people might say why bother having kids if you can't spend time with them, but I believe through the two of us we are spending all the time with them.
    Dude, this might be the only sarcastic response you got to your somewhat sarcastic thread and now you criticize it? I'm confused
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  • GOSSArDgEEK
    GOSSArDgEEK Posts: 245
    I understand where you are coming from, my son lives with my parents so I only get to see him on the weekends. (long story) When my son was 8 the first song I had him listen to was "smile" He loved it, so I made him 2 cds of more Pearl Jam songs. My mother still hasn't given it to him and now he is 10. He told me that "Smile" is one of his most favorite songs. I got to start somewhere, so I figured that "smile" was cute and catchy enough to draw in a childs attention.
    As for now I'm remaining patient and waiting for him to come to me, then I will expose him to more, lots more Pearl Jam. Yes, my evil plan is to get him a show then that will get the ball rolling.

    Hang in there it will be okay, they will come to you in given time and it all will unfold from there.
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  • prince119
    prince119 Posts: 104
    As a man with no children, maybe I have no frame of reference in this topic, but I echo many of the sentiments expressed.

    Just love your children man. If only for 1 hour make that the best hour of their week. Pearl Jam is a band......a band!!! If you want them raising your children then the 1 hour you spend with them is entirely too much time.

    Give yourself to them and allow them to give to you and you will find happiness with your children as well as form the bonds of a real relationship that are so vital to their development and formation of ideas and dreams.

    Contribute TO them and not just FOR them.
  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    larmen42 wrote:
    I understand where you are coming from, my son lives with my parents so I only get to see him on the weekends. (long story) When my son was 8 the first song I had him listen to was "smile" He loved it, so I made him 2 cds of more Pearl Jam songs. My mother still hasn't given it to him and now he is 10. He told me that "Smile" is one of his most favorite songs. I got to start somewhere, so I figured the "smile" was cute and catchy enough to draw in a childs attention.

    That is the saddest thing ever. :(
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  • PJ-Sin
    PJ-Sin Posts: 348
    Dont worry, they will grow out of it. My daughter listens to all that crap too, but when she gets in my car she knows its either Pearl Jam or some metal.
    I figure its bound to grow on her at some point. Awhile back she actually picked out a Meshuggah cd out of my collection and wanted me to play it. I was like "Alright!!" then I showed her how to do the metal horns \m/
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Danimal wrote:
    Dude....I liked Ratt, Poison, Cinderella at one point.

    Those bands are fucking awesome
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