The Official New York Yankees Thread

JonnyPistachio wrote:

yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.

Cliffy6745 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.

Hey Cliffy, btw, Idont know if I ever said (if it was you), thanks for posting that minor league summary report. was that you?! it was awesome. i forwarded that to a few of my pals. I wonder if its too soon to say, but what do you expect to see from those prospects this year? come on spring!...

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.

Hey Cliffy, btw, Idont know if I ever said (if it was you), thanks for posting that minor league summary report. was that you?! it was awesome. i forwarded that to a few of my pals. I wonder if its too soon to say, but what do you expect to see from those prospects this year? come on spring!...

The Fixer (from the Phillies thread) posts a lot of minor league stuff and adds to this thread. I have definitely posted some minor league stuff but if it was a full report, chances are it was him. We will defintely see some of them this year, no doubt. Montero will start the year in Triple A but I assume will be up mid season (especially since Romine needs time in Triple A), depending on how Martin plays. I think Brackman will be up this year as well. I think Becantes and Banuelos will probably stick in Triple A for this year. Going to be a lot of fun seeing these kids come up.

The whole world is obviously excited for Montero, but I am really excited for Brackman, I think he has a real shot to be a front end starter.

The Yankees did pay way to much for Soriano but the dude had better numbers than Mo last year. If he has a great year, there's a good chance he opts out and the Yanks get that pick back.

Plus as BinuralJam said, they have the money to spend.

Edit: And I was reading a lot of people had a problem with giving the Rays so many picks (they now have 9 before the 2nd round starts in a loaded draft), but I just read a good point that they were going to get them from somewhere since Soriano was eventually going to sign and he has a lot more value to the Yankees than a draft pick.

igotid88 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Yankees did pay way to much for Soriano but the dude had better numbers than Mo last year. If he has a great year, there's a good chance he opts out and the Yanks get that pick back.

Plus as BinuralJam said, they have the money to spend.

he wasn't that much better than Mo. And it's a 40 year old vs a 31 year old.

I am not criticizing Mo, their numbers were basically identical. Point is, the Yanks now have possibly the 2 best closers in the game in their bullpen. Plus as you said, Mo is 40, so it can't hurt to have some insurance, even though the dude is Superman. It's just a lot of money to pay a reliver not named Rivera. Like I said, I am find with it. They clearly have the money and Cashman obviously knows their budget better than we do.

Here is a question. What type of pitcher does a package starting with Joba/Romine get the Yanks? I am sure they won't be able to do this before the season but I would imagine those two plus someone else may get a pretty damn good pitcher. Romine needs to hit a bit more but he is a solid prospect. If you add Banuelos/Becantes to that package you are looking at pretty big deal.

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Here is a question. What type of pitcher does a package starting with Joba/Romine get the Yanks? I am sure they won't be able to do this before the season but I would imagine those two plus someone else may get a pretty damn good pitcher. Romine needs to hit a bit more but he is a solid prospect. If you add Banuelos/Becantes to that package you are looking at pretty big deal.

I'm sure alderson would take offers for santana

I am sure he would. Lots of years and money left though so he definitely has to get healthy first. No way in hellI give that package up for Santana at this point.

The Fixer wrote:

yeah, I was just throwing it out there. that was the best I could come up with off the top of my head.

If they have extra cash laying around it might be a good time to throw some extra loot at CC. squash that loophole in his contract before it becomes any type of story during the season (I know he's said he won't opt out, but you know how that goes).

Yeah, I will have to think about it. I am sure there will be pitchers availalbe during the season. I actually like where the Yankees are at right now. I just pray they give Joba a shot at starting. It's the only place on the team he offers any value.

Yeah, I hear that. I doubt he will opt out but I can almost promise he will ask for another year or so. I am certain they will figure it out though. He's not going anywhere.

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

yeah, I was just throwing it out there. that was the best I could come up with off the top of my head.

If they have extra cash laying around it might be a good time to throw some extra loot at CC. squash that loophole in his contract before it becomes any type of story during the season (I know he's said he won't opt out, but you know how that goes).

Yeah, I will have to think about it. I am sure there will be pitchers availalbe during the season. I actually like where the Yankees are at right now. I just pray they give Joba a shot at starting. It's the only place on the team he offers any value.

Yeah, I hear that. I doubt he will opt out but I can almost promise he will ask for another year or so. I am certain they will figure it out though. He's not going anywhere.

That joba stuff you bring up makes a lot of sense. If he's moving to the rotation they need to get him on the treadmill ASAP.

there will definitely be guys available during the year. I wouldn't be shocked to see someone like chris carpenter be one of those guys. I think the cards are gonna suck.

If I'm CC's agent, I'm planting seeds with cashman. Considering what their rotation looks like, he will have the yanks by the balls.

Yeah, I don't see it happening though. Yanks have handled him horrible.

I can get on board with someone like Carpenter. He has had some pretty serious health issues too, right?

I hear you. I bet he gets another year or two added. He is going to be younger than Cliff Lee was this offseason. I honestly don't see this turning into a bad situation.

Lose a high draft pick AND pay that ridiculous amount of money for a set up guy....I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks, but that is fucking insane.