DEMS SAY, "F*CK OBAMA!!"

Electric_Delta wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

so not even 2 years into his Presidency and the obama faithful are throwing him away.

that tells me that they are a whole lot smarter than the bush faithful who put up with his crap for 8 years.

i think obama genuinely has a good heart. unfortunately good hearts don't make a great President on it's own. you have got to be able to make the tough calls too and i've yet to see him be able to do that.

i'd also like to take a moment to say that i think the way he has been demonized by some of the American public (obama is a muslim OMG, he's not a citizen, he is the anti-christ, where is his birth certificate etc) just shows how hateful, ignorant, racist and plain dumb some Americans are.

those of you who are guilty of that behaviour ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

I'm not ashamed to criticize the man for his policies. I couldn't care less what the color of his skin is. It means nothing to me.

It may mean nothing to YOU, but it sure as hell meant a lot to a lot of conservatives.

If the man's name and color of his skin had nothing to do with the right's hatred of him, then how else do you explain the birther movement, the signs depicting him as an African witch doctor, the fuss over his middle name, Fox referring to his wife as his "Baby Mama," the increase in the number of people joining hate groups, and the 400% increase in death threats he received over the amount Bush received? Clearly having an African American with a Muslim name in the Oval Office scared the shit out of a lot of people on the right. You may not be one of them, but they're not exactly an insignificant minority either.

Best of Times wrote:

No, Angel. you fuckin said it, now own it. Anytime someone disagrees w/ your boy, they're a racist. It's so old. I guess 58% of America is racist b/c that's how many people disapprove of Obama.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5085 ... l.html.csp

It's so old.

Okay - I'll pose the same questions to you that I posed to Electric_Delta (someone who is magically able to disagree with me on a regular basis in a civil manner).

Please go down this list, point by point, and explain how none of these issues are race-based:

1. The Birther Movement claims he was born overseas, despite there being no evidence to support their claim.

2. Signs carried by Tea Party members at rallies depicted him as an African witch doctor, complete with a bone through his nose.

3. During the election, opponents (both political and in the media) made a point of referring to him by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, despite the fact that they don't do that for any other candidate.

4. Fox news referred to his wife as his "Baby Mama" and called a fist pump between he and Michelle Obama a "Terrorist fist-jab."

5. The FBI reported a sharp increase in the number of people joining hate groups like the KKK after his election, and he gets 4x as many death threats as Bush received in office. Not letters from disgruntled citizens telling him he's doing a bad job - letters from people saying they want to kill him.

Please feel free to use any language you like, though to me, personally, throwing the word "fuck" around on a regular basis doesn't make me any more likely to be swayed by your argument.

(and on point No. 3, I personally believe, for what it's worth, that when the local media in Louisiana made a point of referring to Bobby Jindal as Piyush Jindal they were being racist)

Best of Times wrote:

cajunkiwi wrote:

Best of Times wrote:

No, Angel. you fuckin said it, now own it. Anytime someone disagrees w/ your boy, they're a racist. It's so old. I guess 58% of America is racist b/c that's how many people disapprove of Obama.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5085 ... l.html.csp

It's so old.

Okay - I'll pose the same questions to you that I posed to Electric_Delta (someone who is magically able to disagree with me on a regular basis in a civil manner).

Please go down this list, point by point, and explain how none of these issues are race-based:

1. The Birther Movement claims he was born overseas, despite there being no evidence to support their claim.

2. Signs carried by Tea Party members at rallies depicted him as an African witch doctor, complete with a bone through his nose.

3. During the election, opponents (both political and in the media) made a point of referring to him by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, despite the fact that they don't do that for any other candidate.

4. Fox news referred to his wife as his "Baby Mama" and called a fist pump between he and Michelle Obama a "Terrorist fist-jab."

5. The FBI reported a sharp increase in the number of people joining hate groups like the KKK after his election, and he gets 4x as many death threats as Bush received in office. Not letters from disgruntled citizens telling him he's doing a bad job - letters from people saying they want to kill him.

Please feel free to use any language you like, though to me, personally, throwing the word "fuck" around on a regular basis doesn't make me any more likely to be swayed by your argument.

(and on point No. 3, I personally believe, for what it's worth, that when the local media in Louisiana made a point of referring to Bobby Jindal as Piyush Jindal they were being racist)

Confused by your quote, since that wasn't to you, was completely off-topic, and was yesterday.... :?

Not suprised by your reply though: Lacking any PROOF or LINKS or NEWS ARTICLES to support your statements.

Good luck. I'll check back later to see if you can provide any...

I see you can't respond to the questions posed to you...shocking...

Best of Times wrote:

cajunkiwi wrote:

Best of Times wrote:

No, Angel. you fuckin said it, now own it. Anytime someone disagrees w/ your boy, they're a racist. It's so old. I guess 58% of America is racist b/c that's how many people disapprove of Obama.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5085 ... l.html.csp

It's so old.

Okay - I'll pose the same questions to you that I posed to Electric_Delta (someone who is magically able to disagree with me on a regular basis in a civil manner).

Please go down this list, point by point, and explain how none of these issues are race-based:

1. The Birther Movement claims he was born overseas, despite there being no evidence to support their claim.

2. Signs carried by Tea Party members at rallies depicted him as an African witch doctor, complete with a bone through his nose.

3. During the election, opponents (both political and in the media) made a point of referring to him by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, despite the fact that they don't do that for any other candidate.

4. Fox news referred to his wife as his "Baby Mama" and called a fist pump between he and Michelle Obama a "Terrorist fist-jab."

5. The FBI reported a sharp increase in the number of people joining hate groups like the KKK after his election, and he gets 4x as many death threats as Bush received in office. Not letters from disgruntled citizens telling him he's doing a bad job - letters from people saying they want to kill him.

Please feel free to use any language you like, though to me, personally, throwing the word "fuck" around on a regular basis doesn't make me any more likely to be swayed by your argument.

(and on point No. 3, I personally believe, for what it's worth, that when the local media in Louisiana made a point of referring to Bobby Jindal as Piyush Jindal they were being racist)

Confused by your quote, since that wasn't to you, was completely off-topic, and was yesterday.... :?

Not suprised by your reply though: Lacking any PROOF or LINKS or NEWS ARTICLES to support your statements.

Good luck. I'll check back later to see if you can provide any...

My apologies for not being on this site 24 hours a day and not seeing the post yesterday. And for assuming that discussions cannot continue over a period of days. And for assuming that when people are discussing something on a public forum, anyone else is free to chime in with their thoughts.

Oh, and my apologies for taking longer than 15 minutes to provide the links you were looking for

Best of Times wrote:

Apology accepted.

Yeah, according to the biased op-eds and usual HuffPo heresay you posted (sorry, but thinkprogress.org just doesn't cut it) it would appear that there is at least one person in the US that doesn't like Obama simply b/c he is black.

I can live with it. What's your point? That ALL people that disagree w/ Obamoron are racist?

That would make you a bigot. Again.

why don't YOU point out things to prove your side?

all you do is ask for sources and ridicule them when people take the time out of their lives to try to educate you. all you have done on this forum is ask for links and then refute them based on your opinion with no links backing your position. you have done that to probaly 15 people on here, including myself. if you were interested in "reasonable debate" as you say you are, you would contribute instead of just attack and belittle and namecall...

cajunkiwi wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

cajunkiwi wrote:

Okay - I'll pose the same questions to you that I posed to Electric_Delta (someone who is magically able to disagree with me on a regular basis in a civil manner).

Please go down this list, point by point, and explain how none of these issues are race-based:

1. The Birther Movement claims he was born overseas, despite there being no evidence to support their claim.

2. Signs carried by Tea Party members at rallies depicted him as an African witch doctor, complete with a bone through his nose.

3. During the election, opponents (both political and in the media) made a point of referring to him by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, despite the fact that they don't do that for any other candidate.

4. Fox news referred to his wife as his "Baby Mama" and called a fist pump between he and Michelle Obama a "Terrorist fist-jab."

5. The FBI reported a sharp increase in the number of people joining hate groups like the KKK after his election, and he gets 4x as many death threats as Bush received in office. Not letters from disgruntled citizens telling him he's doing a bad job - letters from people saying they want to kill him.

Please feel free to use any language you like, though to me, personally, throwing the word "fuck" around on a regular basis doesn't make me any more likely to be swayed by your argument.

(and on point No. 3, I personally believe, for what it's worth, that when the local media in Louisiana made a point of referring to Bobby Jindal as Piyush Jindal they were being racist)

this is a pretty good list. do not forget the furor over him addressing school children with people saying he was going to "indoctrinate them". that had never been said about any president either.

I'll save Best of Times the trouble of asking and provide the link:

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-09-04/poli ... M:POLITICS

Florida GOP Chairman Jim Greer released a statement this week accusing Obama of using taxpayer money to "indoctrinate" children.
"As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology," Greer said.

lol thanks...
i was going to provide a link but i was expecting a link to counter it, which i am convinced i was not going to get.. i was not interested in posting something that would be automatically dismissed.

while i am at it, these other issues have not been attributed to other presidents and were based on fear and mistrust. how about all of the talk about reverend wright, his connection to that harvard professor, and the assertion that he was not experienced enough with his experience as a senator. that experience as a senator and his 2 years in office is more experience than his biggest critic on the matter, palin, who served 1/2 term as governor and resigned to whore herself out on the book and tv and twitter circuit.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Best of Times wrote:

Apology accepted.

Yeah, according to the biased op-eds and usual HuffPo heresay you posted (sorry, but thinkprogress.org just doesn't cut it) it would appear that there is at least one person in the US that doesn't like Obama simply b/c he is black.

I can live with it. What's your point? That ALL people that disagree w/ Obamoron are racist?

That would make you a bigot. Again.

why don't YOU point out things to prove your side?

all you do is ask for sources and ridicule them when people take the time out of their lives to try to educate you. all you have done on this forum is ask for links and then refute them based on your opinion with no links backing your position. you have done that to probaly 15 people on here, including myself. if you were interested in "reasonable debate" as you say you are, you would contribute instead of just attack and belittle and namecall...

I wouldn't hold my breath. I've been waiting for birthers to prove Obama was born in Kenya for two years. I have a hunch I'll go to my grave waiting for that magical Kenyan birth certificate to appear. I'm also waiting for someone to show me where the Death Panels are in the healthcare bill. I'll go to my grave waiting for those too.

And, you know, nothing says biased liberal op-ed like an article from a conservative British newspaper