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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    yosi wrote:
    Listen carefully. It is NOT THE SAME THING. Jokes about blonds are nothing more than jokes. They don't represent actual bigotry against blond people. Jokes about Jews and money represent one of the world's oldest bigotries. When blond's are rounded up and murdered in the millions because somebody thinks they are dumb then you can come back to me and tell me it's the same thing. For now I suggest you quit talking to me and go educate yourself about racism, cause you obviously have a lot to learn.
    classic yosi style.

    since when were jews were rounded up and murdered in the millions because people joked they were tight with money?
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    It isn't funny. That's the point. Neither is this.

    It was called the holocaust. There's a museum in D.C. Go visit. Maybe you'll learn something.

    And yes, if you two really don't understand what is racist about making a joke about Jews and money, then yes, you are both racists.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    There are 132 views for this thread. Can someone please help me. Seriously. I know there are other people reading this. This isn't right. Can someone please help me explain why you can't just go around spouting racism and then hide behind "I was only making a joke."
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    yosi wrote:
    It isn't funny. That's the point. Neither is this.

    It was called the holocaust. There's a museum in D.C. Go visit. Maybe you'll learn something.

    And yes, if you two really don't understand what is racist about making a joke about Jews and money, then yes, you are both racists.
    i'm fully aware of what the holocaust was. maybe it's you who is not yosi considering you are insinuating it had to do with the fact that people made jokes about Jews were tight with money.

    and again, i'm not racist.

    you just want to play the victim. again. i've told you plenty of times already. the mandate of victimhood has expired.

    sorry if that hurts your feelings.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    yosi wrote:
    There are 132 views for this thread. Can someone please help me. Seriously. I know there are other people reading this. This isn't right. Can someone please help me explain why you can't just go around spouting racism and then hide behind "I was only making a joke."
    it was a joke.

    stop making it out to be more than it was.

    and yes, feel free to jump in anyone?
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    Commy wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
    maybe he's racist too.

    :roll:
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
    maybe he's racist too.

    :roll:
    oh right. that explains it. he's a nazi jew.
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    I have no problem with Jews making light of antisemitism. That is our right. The same does not hold for you.

    Antisemitism still exists. I'm not talking about 60 years ago. I'm talking about now.

    Have you ever seen Nazi propaganda about Jews? Have you ever noticed that it relies heavily on themes relating to Jews controlling wealth, Jews being cheap, Jews stealing, Jews cheating, etc.? I get to make light of shit like that. So do your Jewish friends. Maybe, with their permission, you two can do the same with your Jewish friends. You two sure as shit don't get to make light of antisemitism in a public forum. That isn't going to fly. And if you said this shit to my face you'd be gagging on your teeth right now. This is not a fucking joke. This is racism. I have family that I have never met because they were fucking gassed and burned, because of shit like this. IT IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. STOP TELLING ME THAT IT IS.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    yosi wrote:
    Don't play dumb. I'm upset cause he's talking about "Jews." For someone who just posted about anti-Muslim prejudice you should recognize racism when it's staring you in the face.

    sucks when somebody persecutes you for your ethnicity dosnt it.
    I thought maybe the children of Isreal may have learnt that a long time ago. like during the holocost.
    But they do it to others
    americans are doing it to muslims
    Croats did it to serbians and vice versa

    bloody stupid in my book
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    I'd say it's a little worse than just "sucking." At least some people here can recognize it.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    yosi wrote:
    I have no problem with Jews making light of antisemitism. That is our right. The same does not hold for you.

    Antisemitism still exists. I'm not talking about 60 years ago. I'm talking about now.

    Have you ever seen Nazi propaganda about Jews? Have you ever noticed that it relies heavily on themes relating to Jews controlling wealth, Jews being cheap, Jews stealing, Jews cheating, etc.? I get to make light of shit like that. So do your Jewish friends. Maybe, with their permission, you two can do the same with your Jewish friends. You two sure as shit don't get to make light of antisemitism in a public forum. That isn't going to fly. And if you said this shit to my face you'd be gagging on your teeth right now. This is not a fucking joke. This is racism. I have family that I have never met because they were fucking gassed and burned, because of shit like this. IT IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. STOP TELLING ME THAT IT IS.
    you're equating blond jokes with hating blondes, for some reason.



    you're logic is flawed, so i'm going to stop you here.





    what the nazi's did was fucked, and i am in no way supporting that. don't pretend i am.




    and that you would resort to violence so quick maybe opens a microcosm into the mentality behind the jewish state, maybe explains a bit as to why they are so hysterically violent.




    you need to chill the fuck out.
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    I'm not going to chill out. If you walked up to a black man and called him a "ni**er," would you be surprised if he punched you in the face? Same here.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    yosi wrote:
    I'm not going to chill out. If you walked up to a black man and called him a "ni**er," would you be surprised if he punched you in the face? Same here.
    never once did i do anything close to that.
  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    Geez
    some people are pretty hostile when it comes to humour about their own people.
    Pretty nasty to generalise anout a whole race of people isnt it
    sorta like saying because a few use violence against you. you will go out and persecute a whole country because of it.

    Pretty stupid really

    And saying that jokesagainst blondes is funny when talking about jews being tight with the coin. well thats racial stereotyping. You are deliberatly using a particular look, style.
    I remember a talk I have heard about . Aguy who does this gets the whole room to divide based on eye color
    those with blue eyes are chosen as the subject of the talk, they are told they are less then everyone else, the must do this or that, their rights are taken away.
    all because their eyes are blue
    all because their hair is blond
    all because they are born Jew
    all because they are born in palestine

    persecution of ANY difference is wrong isnt it.
    or is it just Jews Yosi
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    yosi wrote:
    I have no problem with Jews making light of antisemitism. That is our right. The same does not hold for you.

    Antisemitism still exists. I'm not talking about 60 years ago. I'm talking about now.

    Have you ever seen Nazi propaganda about Jews? Have you ever noticed that it relies heavily on themes relating to Jews controlling wealth, Jews being cheap, Jews stealing, Jews cheating, etc.? I get to make light of shit like that. So do your Jewish friends. Maybe, with their permission, you two can do the same with your Jewish friends. You two sure as shit don't get to make light of antisemitism in a public forum. That isn't going to fly. And if you said this shit to my face you'd be gagging on your teeth right now. This is not a fucking joke. This is racism. I have family that I have never met because they were fucking gassed and burned, because of shit like this. IT IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. STOP TELLING ME THAT IT IS.
    don't threaten me yosi. i've done nothing wrong. you are the one equating blonde jokes with hating blondes for some reason. making jokes about jews does not = hating jews.

    and my family has a child that we have come to love as much as if he was our own, that we have never met either. every day we wonder how he is doing, if he's being mistreated, if he's got enough to eat and drink, or someone to give him a hug so i know how you feel. he's a little Palestinian boy and he's very precious.

    so stop acting like the victim all the time yosi. you've have gone way overboard with this.

    and as usual, have done a good job at defelcting away from the thread title.
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    No. It is not just Jews. I agree with you entirely. Racism is racism regardless of the target. I have never said otherwise.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    i have never and would never support what the Nazis did to the Jews. it was terrible. no words to even describe how revolting and disgusting their actions were.

    but i'll tell you something else, i, unlike others, am not prepared to give Israel a free ride for the future and not hold them accountable for their actions that they do in this day and age because of what has happened to them in the past.

    and back on topic, this thread is about soldiers who stole items, sold them and that is wrong.

    i think we can all agree on that.
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,155
    Oh stop. I'm not going to sit by silently and let racist remarks go by without comment. It doesn't matter to me whether this was only a joke. A joke can still be racist. And it doesn't matter if there was no malicious intent. A lot of racism slips through in society because it isn't clearly motivated by hatred. That doesn't mean it isn't still racism. And I'm not threatening you. I'm almost certain never to meet you face to face in my life, and even if I did I wouldn't know it was you. I'm just saying that you don't make jokes about Jews and money, the same way you don't make jokes about black men and white women. You're liable to offend somebody, and if you make the joke to someone's face you're liable to get punched.

    And I never said you supported Nazis. Where the hell did you get that from?! I'm just saying that this "joke" has a theme, and the theme has a history, and that history is really, really, brutally shitty.

    And I'm not talking about Israel. I'm talking about Commy recognizing that he crossed a line, and it is not fucking cool.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    i have never and would never support what the Nazis did to the Jews.


    to even bring the 'debate' to that is just ridiculous.




    he's so mad he is ready to get violent agaisnt us, because of what some crazies did 60 years ago. is that the mentality of the jewish state....becuase it explains a lot. that he resorts to violence so quickly (never mind how it would turn out for him ). now we see the hysteria behind jewish mentality. holocaust, holocaust, holocaust.


    yeah it was fucked. yeah it was terrible, tragic, unimaginable. but no one is even coming near suggesting that. it is ridiculous.
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