Police: Soldiers looted flotilla ship

Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
edited August 2010 in A Moving Train
i guess we shouldn't be too surprised considering there were reports of soldiers using the atm and credit cards taken from people aboard the flotilla....and naturally fuckall will be done about it, they will still be cast as the victims instead of the bully

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 81,00.html

Police: Soldiers looted flotilla ship
Ynet learns military police suspect officer, soldier sold laptop computers stolen from aid ships while they docked in Ashdod, after controversial IDF raid. Officials say investigation likely to prove 'highly shameful' for Israel
Hanan Greenberg

An officer and a soldier are suspected of selling goods they took from the highly controversial aid flotilla to Gaza, which was raided by the IDF on May 31, Ynet learned from the military police on Wednesday.

Investigators say they are currently trying to ascertain whether laptop computers were sold by a soldier to three other soldiers, and whether they were initially taken from the flotilla vessels by an officer.


A high-ranking officer familiar with the case said the suspicions are highly likely to prove true. "The investigation has just begun, but as it appears now it will prove embarrassing and shameful," another official said. "These are soldiers who don't understand what their uniform represents."

The investigation could prove extremely harmful to Israel as the state strives to fend off global criticism for the raid, which resulted in the deaths of nine Turkish citizens. Recently the Turkel committee, which is investigating the raid on behalf of the state, has called various leaders to testify before it, and a UN committee is not far behind.

The soldier suspected of selling the computers was arrested late Monday night, along with three soldiers suspected of buying them. In the process police say they discovered additional stolen goods in the soldier's possession, including more laptop computers and cellular phones.

Later an officer was arrested on suspicion he sold the goods to the soldier. The officer, a second-lieutenant in rank, is a commander of an army unit who had access to the ships while they docked at Ashdod port, awaiting their return to Turkey.

Police say the officer stole 4-6 laptops from the ship and then sold them to the soldier, who in turn sold them to three other soldiers two months ago. The three have already admitted to making the purchases during questioning, and the computers were confiscated by police. They were found to be brand new, and not meant for sale in Israel.

They also told interrogators that the soldier who sold them the goods told them they had been stolen from the flotilla ships, yet they did not pass the information on to their commanders.

Activists complained of theft
The soldier and officer have yet to appear before the court for a hearing on the remand of their arrests. Police say other soldiers are yet to be arrested, but refuse to give further details.

Meanwhile investigators are intent on discovering where exactly the goods came from, and whether they were stolen from flotilla passengers. One investigator said that if indeed the goods were found to belong to activists on board, they would be recompensed.

The IDF Spokesperson's Office confirmed reports of an investigation Wednesday, but said that it was "not at all certain the equipment was taken from the flotilla".

Complaints by flotilla passengers about stolen equipment surfaced not long after the raid. Activists told the British Guardian in June that credit cards confiscated by the IDF had been used.

The Guardian reported that soldiers had used the cards to purchase various items, including iPod accessories. Claims regarding calls made from confiscated cell phones followed.

The IDF responded to the claims by stating that all of the personal effects brought by the activists to Israel had been placed aboard planes that transported them from the country, but that audio and video cassettes had been confiscated for security reasons.
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  • matabelematabele Posts: 277
    Funny how so many of these people who claim to have God on their side turn out to be murderers and thieves!
  • matabele wrote:
    Funny how so many of these people who claim to have God on their side turn out to be murderers and thieves!

    Thats sums up makind's history pretty well...
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    so can we add identity theft and use of a stolen credit cards to the existing charges of piracy and murder?

    either way, it is pretty damn low to be using stolen credit cards. as a victim of identity theft myself, those that are guilty of it should be thrown in jail for a minimum 10 years per count, no parole...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    apparently injustice and murder are good for business.





    there will come a time when Israel's superpower empire buddy (the USA) refuses to get their backs. what will happen to Israel and its citizens then? they are bringing it on themselves with acts like this, they are guaranteeing destruction, with operations like "cast lead" and the attack on the flotilla. can't they see that?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Commy wrote:
    there will come a time when Israel's superpower empire buddy (the USA) refuses to get their backs.
    unfortunately i doubt this will ever happen. israel needs the us and the us needs israel. how else can the mutual agenda of both be forced???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:
    there will come a time when Israel's superpower empire buddy (the USA) refuses to get their backs.
    unfortunately i doubt this will ever happen. israel needs the us and the us needs israel. how else can the mutual agenda of both be forced???
    we had a similar relatoinship with apartheid south africa for many years. you can' fight public will forever.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    wait. let me get this straight. Jews sold something they got for free?


    this is news indeed.
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Commy wrote:
    wait. let me get this straight. Jews sold something they got for free?


    this is news indeed.

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?! Seriously?!
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    yosi wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    wait. let me get this straight. Jews sold something they got for free?


    this is news indeed.

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?! Seriously?!

    HEY! ANSWER ME. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN "JEWS SOLD SOMETHING THEY GOT FOR FREE?"
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosi wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    wait. let me get this straight. Jews sold something they got for free?


    this is news indeed.

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?! Seriously?!

    HEY! ANSWER ME. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN "JEWS SOLD SOMETHING THEY GOT FOR FREE?"
    well they did get it for free and they sold it?

    did you read the article?
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Don't play dumb. I'm upset cause he's talking about "Jews." For someone who just posted about anti-Muslim prejudice you should recognize racism when it's staring you in the face.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosi wrote:
    Don't play dumb. I'm upset cause he's talking about "Jews." For someone who just posted about anti-Muslim prejudice you should recognize racism when it's staring you in the face.
    how is it racism?

    i had this conversation with someone the other day. i'm blonde and i have heard millions of blonde jokes over the years and guess what? i laugh. never told a blonde joke in your life Yosi? ever laughed at one. it's no fucken different.

    why are you always acting the victim? the real victims are the non-jews. they have to tip toe around jews or risk the cries of anti-semitism. do i get offended everytime someone does one of the millions of blonde jokes? no.
  • stop trying to deflect away from the thread.

    fact is, soldiers looted the ship.
    stole items.
    sold them.

    the end.
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Soldiers. Period. Why mention Jews? And please don't insult my intelligence by comparing it to jokes about blonds. This is a classic antisemitic trope about Jews and money. A more apt comparison would be to making a "joke" about black people and bananas. I read the article, and I fully agree that theft should be punished. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT JEWS, SPECIFICALLY, STEALING THINGS/SELLING THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG TO THEM. That is antisemitism, and it isn't a joke. It isn't even subtle antisemitism. ARE YOU BLIND!
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Does it also upset you that you can't make jokes about black men raping white women?! Cause really, what's the big deal?! Why are those black people playing the victim and ruining your comedic options?!!!!
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosi wrote:
    Soldiers. Period. Why mention Jews? And please don't insult my intelligence by comparing it to jokes about blonds. This is a classic antisemitic trope about Jews and money. A more apt comparison would be to making a "joke" about black people and bananas. I read the article, and I fully agree that theft should be punished. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT JEWS, SPECIFICALLY, STEALING THINGS/SELLING THINGS THAT DON'T BELONG TO THEM. That is antisemitism, and it isn't a joke. It isn't even subtle antisemitism. ARE YOU BLIND!

    so lets get this straight. you have a problem with millions of people all over the world making jokes about jews and money, yet i don't have a problem with millions of people all over the world making fun about dumb blondes? right?

    it's not anti-semetism, and anyone who thinks it is needs to stop playing the victim.

    it's no different to making a joke about a blonde. it's a joke.
  • yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    i'm not racist.

    and yes, your whole overblown reaction in this thread has just proved my point.

    no one can make a joke about jews.

    but we can make jokes about blondes.

    poor yosi. always the victim.
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Listen carefully. It is NOT THE SAME THING. Jokes about blonds are nothing more than jokes. They don't represent actual bigotry against blond people. Jokes about Jews and money represent one of the world's oldest bigotries. When blond's are rounded up and murdered in the millions because somebody thinks they are dumb then you can come back to me and tell me it's the same thing. For now I suggest you quit talking to me and go educate yourself about racism, cause you obviously have a lot to learn.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Answer me this. Would you ever walk up to a black man and make a joke about him raping white women?
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosi wrote:
    Listen carefully. It is NOT THE SAME THING. Jokes about blonds are nothing more than jokes. They don't represent actual bigotry against blond people. Jokes about Jews and money represent one of the world's oldest bigotries. When blond's are rounded up and murdered in the millions because somebody thinks they are dumb then you can come back to me and tell me it's the same thing. For now I suggest you quit talking to me and go educate yourself about racism, cause you obviously have a lot to learn.
    classic yosi style.

    since when were jews were rounded up and murdered in the millions because people joked they were tight with money?
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    It isn't funny. That's the point. Neither is this.

    It was called the holocaust. There's a museum in D.C. Go visit. Maybe you'll learn something.

    And yes, if you two really don't understand what is racist about making a joke about Jews and money, then yes, you are both racists.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    There are 132 views for this thread. Can someone please help me. Seriously. I know there are other people reading this. This isn't right. Can someone please help me explain why you can't just go around spouting racism and then hide behind "I was only making a joke."
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
  • yosi wrote:
    It isn't funny. That's the point. Neither is this.

    It was called the holocaust. There's a museum in D.C. Go visit. Maybe you'll learn something.

    And yes, if you two really don't understand what is racist about making a joke about Jews and money, then yes, you are both racists.
    i'm fully aware of what the holocaust was. maybe it's you who is not yosi considering you are insinuating it had to do with the fact that people made jokes about Jews were tight with money.

    and again, i'm not racist.

    you just want to play the victim. again. i've told you plenty of times already. the mandate of victimhood has expired.

    sorry if that hurts your feelings.
  • yosi wrote:
    There are 132 views for this thread. Can someone please help me. Seriously. I know there are other people reading this. This isn't right. Can someone please help me explain why you can't just go around spouting racism and then hide behind "I was only making a joke."
    it was a joke.

    stop making it out to be more than it was.

    and yes, feel free to jump in anyone?
  • Commy wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
    maybe he's racist too.

    :roll:
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    And I am so sorry that you have to be careful not to be racist. That must be so difficult for you. It's really a fucking tragedy that you have to check yourself around us Jews lest you offend our sensibilities with your utterly understandable racial hatred, excuse me, "jokes."
    the jokes have little to do with racial hatred. chill out man.



    does that mean a buddy of mine hates all jews because he tells these jokes about them? because, uhm, he's jewish.
    maybe he's racist too.

    :roll:
    oh right. that explains it. he's a nazi jew.
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    I have no problem with Jews making light of antisemitism. That is our right. The same does not hold for you.

    Antisemitism still exists. I'm not talking about 60 years ago. I'm talking about now.

    Have you ever seen Nazi propaganda about Jews? Have you ever noticed that it relies heavily on themes relating to Jews controlling wealth, Jews being cheap, Jews stealing, Jews cheating, etc.? I get to make light of shit like that. So do your Jewish friends. Maybe, with their permission, you two can do the same with your Jewish friends. You two sure as shit don't get to make light of antisemitism in a public forum. That isn't going to fly. And if you said this shit to my face you'd be gagging on your teeth right now. This is not a fucking joke. This is racism. I have family that I have never met because they were fucking gassed and burned, because of shit like this. IT IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. STOP TELLING ME THAT IT IS.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    yosi wrote:
    Don't play dumb. I'm upset cause he's talking about "Jews." For someone who just posted about anti-Muslim prejudice you should recognize racism when it's staring you in the face.

    sucks when somebody persecutes you for your ethnicity dosnt it.
    I thought maybe the children of Isreal may have learnt that a long time ago. like during the holocost.
    But they do it to others
    americans are doing it to muslims
    Croats did it to serbians and vice versa

    bloody stupid in my book
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
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