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i miss the days of spending $40 for 2-cd bootlegs
Guitarhero27
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because the sound was awesome on all of those
tape trading, 4th generation, 5th generation tapes....pressed cd's whos sound was like hearing PJ while in the toilet of a large concert hall...yea sounds great doesn't it?
i'll take a cd where stone might cut out for a minute or two, for just over $10 than spending the $40 again anyday.
The roots of PJ and the tape trading community are grateful for ANY type of "official" bootleg that is available to us.
I wish some people would stop for a minute, and try and be a fan pre-2000, trying to get every known show, from as close a source to the master as possible...and realize that the sound STILL sucked on the bootlegs.
However, it was spending the $40 on those bootlegs ($20 for single cd compilation bootlegs or old shows from the early 90's) that made me really appreciate everything released post 2000.
But on that note....Jeff's bassline from Philly night 1 during All Those Yesterdays is missing until the climax of the song.
hehehe.
tape trading, 4th generation, 5th generation tapes....pressed cd's whos sound was like hearing PJ while in the toilet of a large concert hall...yea sounds great doesn't it?
i'll take a cd where stone might cut out for a minute or two, for just over $10 than spending the $40 again anyday.
The roots of PJ and the tape trading community are grateful for ANY type of "official" bootleg that is available to us.
I wish some people would stop for a minute, and try and be a fan pre-2000, trying to get every known show, from as close a source to the master as possible...and realize that the sound STILL sucked on the bootlegs.
However, it was spending the $40 on those bootlegs ($20 for single cd compilation bootlegs or old shows from the early 90's) that made me really appreciate everything released post 2000.
But on that note....Jeff's bassline from Philly night 1 during All Those Yesterdays is missing until the climax of the song.
hehehe.
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and yes .. i miss those silver unofficial bootleg day's where many unknown bootleg companies included fake/recorded live crowd noise on official studio tracks!
ahh yes...$35 for 1, $60 for 2.....I always managed to negotiate down to $20/$40....to the point of the stores knowing me and never trying to charge me $35/60 when i brought the cd's to the counter...
I remember finding my first unofficial silver cd bootleg...Attenzione and asking the guys at the counter to play it for me so I could hear the sound quality....it was listenable by all means....rated a C- on the unofficial PJ bootleg discography back then...which is quite horrible by today's standards of PJ's official releases....and I remember wanting to hear Hunger Strike/Leash.....Eddie sings the first 2 bars of Hunger Strike...then in a crowded cd store all you hear is:
DROP THE LEASH DROP THE LEASH GET OUT OF MY FUCKING FACE.....and the song kicks in.
02/18/92 – Sorpasso: Milan, Italy [70m]
attendance: too many (capacity=400)
set: Release, Even Flow, Once, State of Love and Trust, Alive, Black, Deep, Why Go, Porch, Attenzione Jam/Jeremy, Breath
enc: I’ve Got a Feeling, (Hunger Strike)/Leash
notes: This tiny, hot, overly packed venue feature an inordinately excited crowd and two ill-placed speakers. Eventually, a couple of fans in the audience “volunteer” to hold onto the speakers to keep them from plunging into the throng. The vibrating during a ripping ‘Leash’ eventually causes one of the speakers to topple but no one is injured. After ‘State of Love and Trust,’ Ed remarks, “The Marshall is smoking. (laughs) It’s known to burn up when Michael plays.” Concerned about the crowd, he says, “This is a little claustrophobic. This is the biggest place we’ve ever played.” After ‘Jeremy,’ “Is there a bigger place right around here where we can all go right now to maybe finish this up? Somebody’s house maybe?”
And the kicker was trying to play it on my discman-attached-to-my-tape-player-with-that-weird-cassette-adapter-cable-thingy-in-my-cheap-ass-car-that-didn't-have-a-cd-player!!
I bought one that was the studio version of Ten with fake audience "noise" at the beginning and end of evey song!! :shock: :x
We are spoiled as fans; I spend ALL of my time trying to explain why my wife and I drove from NH to Philly to see 4 shows in 5 days- "...isn't it the same show every night?...". Not only do we get amazing performances night after night, we get to grab a copy on CD to re-live each show.
Wow; I just typed a lot!
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ALL FOUR 09 PHILLY SHOWS!!
One has Please Let Me Sleep it's Xmas two times (always better than one), another has an intro written by "Professor Stone"-
All appear to be from Italy?
The first CD boots I bought were Atlanta 94 and No Fuckin' Messiah at a record fair in Sept 94, and I thought they were well worth the price I paid for them. wasn't till '99 that I went to the States and realised just how much more you folks were paying for CD boots than we were in Europe. Double the price or more.
So the fact that I can get official boots (however much people want to moan about the sound) from the band that are half the price of what I was paying for dodgy unofficial boots 10-15 years ago, is still a thrill to me, and I'm always grateful for it.
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00: Dublin
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09: Manchester, London
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11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
Although I love how the awesome PJ community has helped me obtain copies of every show I've ever been to - and even some I should have been to back in the day!
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Mike Watt featuring EV, NY 4/27/95; Three Fish w/JA, NY 7/11/96; Three Fish w/JA, NY 6/11/99; EV Solo, Boston 8/1/08, Tres Mts. w/JA & MM, Boston 3/27/11; EV Solo, Boston 6/16/11
Your post makes brutal sense to me, the Philyl shows I am just finishing my first run through, and fuck me they are good
Amen!
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
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My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
But it's a cool keepsake from that era. I just can't listen to it on my iPod. I need to listen to it at home on my stereo while looking at the booklet. The way it was meant to be!
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I kinda feel bad for anyone who wasn't able to experience this. How fun was it going into a record shop having no idea what sort of bootlegged gems they might have? Those were the days...
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that was my favorite part, the misnaming of songs. Drop the Leaves!!!
$60? that's a steal! I paid $75
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We would copy CD's > cassettes for show's we didn't have. There were so many bootleg CD's available @ the local record stores, couldn't buy them all. Wish they sold vinyl bootlegs like they did for Metallica & Neil Young back then.
Kiss The Stone, Kobra Records & Oxygen Records were my favorite distributors. Mostly 75% of the bootlegs were all imports from Europe.
I also love "Steal, Lie & Trust" and listing Not For You as Neil Young's "This Note's For You".
The CD titles were great as well, especially everyone's favorite: "No Fuckin' Messiah!"
As frightening as it is to think about what I spent on these back in the day, it's WAY more frightening to think what my bank account would be like without them releasing the shows themselves, as well as the advent of bit torrent and most everyone having high-speed internet access.
I can't for the life of me figure out what you are talking about. I don't mean that to say I agree or disagree, I really can't understand what you're getting at. And as someone who collects DVD bootlegs, I'd love to join in. But I don't understand!
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I got some wicked ones, like "13 Why Go Home" which is the same as Ten Rough mixes. Has Brother & Alone and all the mixes are different. Perfect audio quality. Also some very good live cds like "Holland 1992". I just recently bought me 2CD set of MTV unplugged & rehearsals + some early demos. I really need to get Atlanta 1994 on silvers as well. I have Dissident 3CD but it misses those 4 songs.
I read somewhere that during the 80s and 90s some of the tapers sold their 1st gen copies to the companies (mostly) in Italy who would press the discs.
Soundgarden - 1996-10-15
Pearl Jam - 2000-06-30
Fugazi - 2000-10-10
The Mars Volta - 2003-03-24
Yep, but you can't get any (ok, maybe 2-3) official pre 2000 shows...and still the band has taped them all. So we have to discuss about those bootlegs
Soundgarden - 1996-10-15
Pearl Jam - 2000-06-30
Fugazi - 2000-10-10
The Mars Volta - 2003-03-24
Rock for Choice was my first PJ show. I just came across this boot a few weeks ago, great memories.
my first boot was NO FUCKIN MESSIAH and the last one i bough was TIVOLI (best one ever made)
i ended up selling them on ebay about 5 years ago for about $190 .i had a 200 cd booklet filled with all Pearl Jam boots.. im so pissed i sold them and wonder if it was one of you guys who bought them ..and if you did i hope your enjoying them
And I will never forget listening to the Atlanta Fox Theater '94 show on the radio and taping it on cassette! Did the same with Self Pollution Radio...
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Mike Watt featuring EV, NY 4/27/95; Three Fish w/JA, NY 7/11/96; Three Fish w/JA, NY 6/11/99; EV Solo, Boston 8/1/08, Tres Mts. w/JA & MM, Boston 3/27/11; EV Solo, Boston 6/16/11
Oh yes and Berlin 1996 too! Luckily there's lots of 90s boots still widely available.
Soundgarden - 1996-10-15
Pearl Jam - 2000-06-30
Fugazi - 2000-10-10
The Mars Volta - 2003-03-24
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10