I agree that there is something different (and wrong) about these boots. I would not say they are unlistenable, and I didn't get a headache, but they just sound "off". I'd rather wait the couple extra months and have them sound like at least the Philly boots. Btw I got the mp3s- I should have ordered the CDs and I still might now that these are not that good. The shows were phenominal but the boots don't quite capture that.
I dont have any of the boots yet but Ive been listening to PJ radio and all I have to say is that you people need to stop complaining. theres nothing wrong with any of these boots. geez
To be honest, I couldn't wait for the '10 boots to be released based on a variety of reasons, one of which was the quality I was hearing of the PJ radio. The '10 shows sound incredible on PJ radio. Much to my disappointment, when I bought Columbus, Hartford and Boston, the quality was sub-par.
They sound very flat and like they were recorded in a small metal box.
Just my observation and opinion...certainly still think they are the best band in the world.
On a positive note...the '09 boots are up there with the best they have released...
As a sound technician and musician myself, I must respectfully disagree.
I was at the Bristow show, which was held in a venue notorious for terrible acoustics - concrete floors, steel ceilings, and it's basically a dome built into the side of a hill. During the show, Matt's kick was just slightly behind the rest of the band, so much I think it was affecting Jeff (and maybe the crowd...but the show was still one of the best I've EVER seen). Needless to say, there were challenges.
Last Friday night, I received the CD boots, and my friend (who went with me) and I listened to them on his stereo system. We had also gone through the New Orleans boot the week before. We listened for highs, lows, and to see if each member was distinguishable.
We were thrilled. Even in this terrible venue, the production shined. The recordings aren't as warm as the 2000 or 2003, I'll give you that. However, they are fantastic and I absolutely love this band for taking care of us in this manner.
(By the way, Jeff has been mixed PERFECTLY in the 2010 series...I mean just perfectly)
As a sound technician and musician myself, I must respectfully disagree.
I was at the Bristow show, which was held in a venue notorious for terrible acoustics - concrete floors, steel ceilings, and it's basically a dome built into the side of a hill. During the show, Matt's kick was just slightly behind the rest of the band, so much I think it was affecting Jeff (and maybe the crowd...but the show was still one of the best I've EVER seen). Needless to say, there were challenges.
Last Friday night, I received the CD boots, and my friend (who went with me) and I listened to them on his stereo system. We had also gone through the New Orleans boot the week before. We listened for highs, lows, and to see if each member was distinguishable.
We were thrilled. Even in this terrible venue, the production shined. The recordings aren't as warm as the 2000 or 2003, I'll give you that. However, they are fantastic and I absolutely love this band for taking care of us in this manner.
(By the way, Jeff has been mixed PERFECTLY in the 2010 series...I mean just perfectly)
Glad to hear the boot sound better then the actual show.
However, being a sound technician gives you great insight as to how to mix music etc., but it still can't provide the same persepective to everyone that ever listens to a boot. Bottom line is some people hear things differently then others, not to mention what they are listening to a boot through(shitty system vs. top of the line).
Quick question for you...have you heard the '10 boots via CD AND download? I have 3 boots that I downloaded and they certainly don't sound great.
Wow. Really? Im thinkin the 2010 boots sound freakin great! Drums and bass and crowd all pumped up. Ed nice and clear. You should compare to older year boots...like European shows in 2000...Huge diff. in sound quality. So, I think the biggest prob w/ the 2010 boots may be your stereo... Listen to Hartford 2010 and tell me that shit dont sound freakin awesome!!! Or was it just b/c I was there, making me bias? :?: IDK but I will just reiterate how greatful I am that PJ puts out all their shows....no matter what. This band rocks.
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Havent listened to 2010 yet. Because I am remixing 09!!! Haha! Seriously I am doing my own matrix mix of Philly 09. And OP is generally right (not about the headaches and shit) but overall there is a big lack of low end. The high end "frequencies" are more pronounced, it is more trebely (sp?) than I like as well.
What I found when I combined audience sources with official source was a revelation for me.
I thought it would "make the crowd louder" Hell yeah it did. But a totally unexpected result was that all of a sudden there was a whole new level of sub-bass and normal bass. I could "hear" and "feel" Jeff's playing so much more. There was a whole level of "sub" bass just completely not there on the boots.
So now I am LOVING my custom boots!
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I was listening to my Boston boot at work last week and my co-worker was like, turn that down it sounds so...tinny. At first I said it was because of the PC but then I played my 2006 Boston show and it sounded perfect. It was at that moment I realized she was right.
I was listening to my Boston boot at work last week and my co-worker was like, turn that down it sounds so...tinny. At first I said it was because of the PC but then I played my 2006 Boston show and it sounded perfect. It was at that moment I realized she was right.
So true! Take a listen to 5/24/06 Boston 'Animal' & 5/17/10 Boston 'Animal'. On any setting.
Take a listen to Ed. Ed's vocals on this mix sounds like he's singing in a hallway all alone & dubbed on this live track! :shock: The '06 recording is perfect. Louder Ed & much clearer. Even the guitars, bass & drums on the '06 mix is much clearer.
You make a good point...listeners are very different. I do approach things differently than the casual listener, but even they have said good things about it. Case in point, I bought my Mom one of the boots from Bristow and she said it sounded great.
Someone posted earlier about the quality of the downloads versus the CD's and I believe it's all about the files. I think given the right circumstances, they'll sound equally as great.
As a sound technician and musician myself, I must respectfully disagree.
I was at the Bristow show, which was held in a venue notorious for terrible acoustics - concrete floors, steel ceilings, and it's basically a dome built into the side of a hill. During the show, Matt's kick was just slightly behind the rest of the band, so much I think it was affecting Jeff (and maybe the crowd...but the show was still one of the best I've EVER seen). Needless to say, there were challenges.
Last Friday night, I received the CD boots, and my friend (who went with me) and I listened to them on his stereo system. We had also gone through the New Orleans boot the week before. We listened for highs, lows, and to see if each member was distinguishable.
We were thrilled. Even in this terrible venue, the production shined. The recordings aren't as warm as the 2000 or 2003, I'll give you that. However, they are fantastic and I absolutely love this band for taking care of us in this manner.
(By the way, Jeff has been mixed PERFECTLY in the 2010 series...I mean just perfectly)
Glad to hear the boot sound better then the actual show.
However, being a sound technician gives you great insight as to how to mix music etc., but it still can't provide the same persepective to everyone that ever listens to a boot. Bottom line is some people hear things differently then others, not to mention what they are listening to a boot through(shitty system vs. top of the line).
Quick question for you...have you heard the '10 boots via CD AND download? I have 3 boots that I downloaded and they certainly don't sound great.
there is also a big diff. btwn the MP3 and Flac files....go the extra mile and get the Flac.
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I'm confused...doesn't it matter at all what a person is listening ON? What gear is providing the sound that one doesn't care for...or that one loves and thinks is perfect?
And this is not official at all...it's just me...a music lover.
there is also a big diff. btwn the MP3 and Flac files....go the extra mile and get the Flac.
On desktop speakers or even car speakers, it doesn't really make a big difference. You could have well encoded V0 Lame MP3's @ an amazing variable bitrate ripped from the CD or extracted the .wav file from the .flac file & encoded it @ max with dBpoweramp Music Encoder that sound the exact same under headphones to a Flac file. The mix & probably the recording is what's been hurting these bootlegs.
Best example (and try this out) for all is to play a show from the same arena/forum/club etc.. Take a listen to 5/24/06 & 5/17/10. Both played @ the TD Bank in Boston, Mass. Listen to for example Why Go, Animal, Even Flow etc ... Same song's they played in '06 & '10. Listen to these show's on a normal setting. Where your Equalizer is @ +0 db. All on a normal setting. Don't add any special effects or anything with the media player you are listening to.
there is also a big diff. btwn the MP3 and Flac files....go the extra mile and get the Flac.
On desktop speakers or even car speakers, it doesn't really make a big difference. You could have well encoded V0 Lame MP3's @ an amazing variable bitrate ripped from the CD or extracted the .wav file from the .flac file & encoded it @ max with dBpoweramp Music Encoder that sound the exact same under headphones to a Flac file. The mix & probably the recording is what's been hurting these bootlegs.
Best example (and try this out) for all is to play a show from the same arena/forum/club etc.. Take a listen to 5/24/06 & 5/17/10. Both played @ the TD Bank in Boston, Mass. Listen to for example Why Go, Animal, Even Flow etc ... Same song's they played in '06 & '10. Listen to these show's on a normal setting. Where your Equalizer is @ +0 db. All on a normal setting. Don't add any special effects or anything with the media player you are listening to.
...and there you go. Great point. A good system will still sound subpar when playing a source(CD or mp3 or FLAC) that is not mixed well. A good system will "help" make it sound better, and a bad system will make it sound worse...either way, the '10 boots are not the best mixed boots they have out there.
In life, you always run into people that complain just to complain. If one aspect of their life is good, they will find another to complain about.
I think you should go to the doctors and get something for your superman ears. Obviously you can hear something we can't if you are getting a headache after seconds of listening.
In good headphones, not earbuds, these boots sound great. They're not perfect but I am very happy with them.
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In good headphones, not earbuds, these boots sound great. They're not perfect but I am very happy with them.
For those who have been listening for day's/month's/year's the 00's, '03's, '05's, '06's, '08's, '09's and the latest new '10's bootlegs, everybody has a different take & feelings on these recordings. Not all mixes & recordings sound the same. Would be plan & dual if they were all the same. They all need a touch of paprika to spice things up.
Some want more Jeff (like myself) on these recordings, some want less Jeff. Some want louder ED, others don't. Many wanted the audience crowd noise much louder on these bootlegs where you can hear Jane scream out profanity to Ed about sexual favors or something. Insane? I know. But after year's of being spoiled with all these Official Bootleg goodies, everybody is a critic & have a choice & voice on these.
In life, you always run into people that complain just to complain. If one aspect of their life is good, they will find another to complain about.
I think you should go to the doctors and get something for your superman ears. Obviously you can hear something we can't if you are getting a headache after seconds of listening.
In good headphones, not earbuds, these boots sound great. They're not perfect but I am very happy with them.
Thank you....my thoughts exactly. We should be greatful they release all their shows....compared to DMB who has toured non stop forever...and only put out a select few shows...theres like a one in a million shot they'll release a show you actually went to...
"People invented language to fulfill the need to complain" - unknown
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The subject line says it all. These boots are horrible. I actually get a headache after a few seconds.
that, and a glass of whine. :shock:
If I had known then what I know now...
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I dont have any of the boots yet but Ive been listening to PJ radio and all I have to say is that you people need to stop complaining. theres nothing wrong with any of these boots. geez
To be honest, I couldn't wait for the '10 boots to be released based on a variety of reasons, one of which was the quality I was hearing of the PJ radio. The '10 shows sound incredible on PJ radio. Much to my disappointment, when I bought Columbus, Hartford and Boston, the quality was sub-par.
They sound very flat and like they were recorded in a small metal box.
Just my observation and opinion...certainly still think they are the best band in the world.
On a positive note...the '09 boots are up there with the best they have released...
well all I have to say is that I completely agree............ with your username
Well they aren't unlistenable. But I converted my flacs to mp3s for the shit mp3 player i have and I gotta say they aren't great. I turne it up 100% and some parts I still feel like I can't hear the mix properly. But all in all I'm not complaining. Fuck yaaa I'm gonna go listen again now! viva Clevland and Buffalo 2010
So...question. (And this very well may be in the wrong forum, but...)
I've yet to buy my boots from last year or this year (Philly 09 - Night II & III and in 2010 - Bristow & MSG II).
I'm on the fence about buying the CD format or going w/flac files. If I opted for flacs, would that enhance the mixing at all...or my perception of it?
I get the general idea of what a flac file is, but I'm not sure how that would relate to the actually mixing done from another source.
Any help anyone would like to offer is appreciated.
Why can't you just enjoy the music and appreicate the fact that PJ puts out live recordings of all their shows? I remember spending upward of 50 or so dollars on bootlegs that sounded horrific. Have a beverage and enjoy the music.
as someone who was extremely grateful to get a 8th gen bootleg cassette tape, 8months after the show i saw, and played it 50times and still LOVED IT, i gotta say i wouldn't even have the nerve to bitch about what PJ offer me
years ago we didn't even have official pj bootlegs
and today people still find the need/desire to complain :roll:
i'd rather be grateful for what we have than to bitch about what we don't have
the only official boot I have heard that is completely butchered is Toronto 09.
I have listened to portions of some 2010's and i dont feel they sound bad at all.
What was wrong with Toronto '09? Sounds good to me.
To be honest, I think every bootleg they release sounds great. I'm very grateful they release them so I don't have to rely on mediocre fan recordings and shaky youtube vids to enjoy the show.
The sound comes off as shrill and harsh. It doesn't sound pleasant. Re: sound frequencies — adjustments over the the three main ranges can help improve sound.
Listen, just compare a 2000 or 2003 boot with this one. The headaches I speak of happened with repeated work with horribly mastered or unmastered music.
I by no means want to invalidate your point of view or opinion so please know this is a statement of all due respect.
IMO, the biggest mistake fans make is comparing the sound quality to past bootlegs. Not one single tour sounds the same in mixing quality. Brett Eliason did al the shows from 2000-2006. He is excellent but also does other woks for other bands and owns Basecamp productions. Barret Jones and John Burton have done the work from 2008 and I think to current but could be wrong. Fact is that with each year the quality is different. It can seem really inferior when comparing one year to another in any way you look at it when comparing.
I completely understand what you are saying and are experiencing though. 2010 is a far cry from superior to past tours released. However, it's damn good quality overall in my own opinion. Could be better of course. I just know from personal experience that when you compare past tours that were released to 2010 that you set your self up for disappointment. Approach it with the tour itself in mind and if without comparison you stil think it sucks so bad then by all means as a consumer, you should request a refund.
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To be honest, I couldn't wait for the '10 boots to be released based on a variety of reasons, one of which was the quality I was hearing of the PJ radio. The '10 shows sound incredible on PJ radio. Much to my disappointment, when I bought Columbus, Hartford and Boston, the quality was sub-par.
They sound very flat and like they were recorded in a small metal box.
Just my observation and opinion...certainly still think they are the best band in the world.
On a positive note...the '09 boots are up there with the best they have released...
I was at the Bristow show, which was held in a venue notorious for terrible acoustics - concrete floors, steel ceilings, and it's basically a dome built into the side of a hill. During the show, Matt's kick was just slightly behind the rest of the band, so much I think it was affecting Jeff (and maybe the crowd...but the show was still one of the best I've EVER seen). Needless to say, there were challenges.
Last Friday night, I received the CD boots, and my friend (who went with me) and I listened to them on his stereo system. We had also gone through the New Orleans boot the week before. We listened for highs, lows, and to see if each member was distinguishable.
We were thrilled. Even in this terrible venue, the production shined. The recordings aren't as warm as the 2000 or 2003, I'll give you that. However, they are fantastic and I absolutely love this band for taking care of us in this manner.
(By the way, Jeff has been mixed PERFECTLY in the 2010 series...I mean just perfectly)
Glad to hear the boot sound better then the actual show.
However, being a sound technician gives you great insight as to how to mix music etc., but it still can't provide the same persepective to everyone that ever listens to a boot. Bottom line is some people hear things differently then others, not to mention what they are listening to a boot through(shitty system vs. top of the line).
Quick question for you...have you heard the '10 boots via CD AND download? I have 3 boots that I downloaded and they certainly don't sound great.
What I found when I combined audience sources with official source was a revelation for me.
I thought it would "make the crowd louder" Hell yeah it did. But a totally unexpected result was that all of a sudden there was a whole new level of sub-bass and normal bass. I could "hear" and "feel" Jeff's playing so much more. There was a whole level of "sub" bass just completely not there on the boots.
So now I am LOVING my custom boots!
DO THE EVOLUTION - a 20th Anniversary Tribute Celebration
of PEARL JAM - WORLD CAFE LIVE PHILLY JUNE 19th 7pm
So true! Take a listen to 5/24/06 Boston 'Animal' & 5/17/10 Boston 'Animal'. On any setting.
Take a listen to Ed. Ed's vocals on this mix sounds like he's singing in a hallway all alone & dubbed on this live track! :shock: The '06 recording is perfect. Louder Ed & much clearer. Even the guitars, bass & drums on the '06 mix is much clearer.
Someone posted earlier about the quality of the downloads versus the CD's and I believe it's all about the files. I think given the right circumstances, they'll sound equally as great.
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On desktop speakers or even car speakers, it doesn't really make a big difference. You could have well encoded V0 Lame MP3's @ an amazing variable bitrate ripped from the CD or extracted the .wav file from the .flac file & encoded it @ max with dBpoweramp Music Encoder that sound the exact same under headphones to a Flac file. The mix & probably the recording is what's been hurting these bootlegs.
Best example (and try this out) for all is to play a show from the same arena/forum/club etc.. Take a listen to 5/24/06 & 5/17/10. Both played @ the TD Bank in Boston, Mass. Listen to for example Why Go, Animal, Even Flow etc ... Same song's they played in '06 & '10. Listen to these show's on a normal setting. Where your Equalizer is @ +0 db. All on a normal setting. Don't add any special effects or anything with the media player you are listening to.
...and there you go. Great point. A good system will still sound subpar when playing a source(CD or mp3 or FLAC) that is not mixed well. A good system will "help" make it sound better, and a bad system will make it sound worse...either way, the '10 boots are not the best mixed boots they have out there.
I think you should go to the doctors and get something for your superman ears. Obviously you can hear something we can't if you are getting a headache after seconds of listening.
In good headphones, not earbuds, these boots sound great. They're not perfect but I am very happy with them.
2000: Phoenix
2008: Camden 2
2009: San Diego, Philly 1, Philly 2
2010: MSG 1, MSG 2
2011: Alpine 1, Alpine 2
2012: Missoula
2013: Wrigley, Phoenix, San Diego, LA1, LA2, Oakland
2014: Denver
2016: MSG1, MSG2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
2018: Fenway 1
2022: San Diego, LA1
2024: LA1
For those who have been listening for day's/month's/year's the 00's, '03's, '05's, '06's, '08's, '09's and the latest new '10's bootlegs, everybody has a different take & feelings on these recordings. Not all mixes & recordings sound the same. Would be plan & dual if they were all the same. They all need a touch of paprika to spice things up.
Some want more Jeff (like myself) on these recordings, some want less Jeff. Some want louder ED, others don't. Many wanted the audience crowd noise much louder on these bootlegs where you can hear Jane scream out profanity to Ed about sexual favors or something. Insane? I know. But after year's of being spoiled with all these Official Bootleg goodies, everybody is a critic & have a choice & voice on these.
Thank you....my thoughts exactly. We should be greatful they release all their shows....compared to DMB who has toured non stop forever...and only put out a select few shows...theres like a one in a million shot they'll release a show you actually went to...
"People invented language to fulfill the need to complain" - unknown
that, and a glass of whine. :shock:
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
well all I have to say is that I completely agree............ with your username
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I've yet to buy my boots from last year or this year (Philly 09 - Night II & III and in 2010 - Bristow & MSG II).
I'm on the fence about buying the CD format or going w/flac files. If I opted for flacs, would that enhance the mixing at all...or my perception of it?
I get the general idea of what a flac file is, but I'm not sure how that would relate to the actually mixing done from another source.
Any help anyone would like to offer is appreciated.
Peace
I have listened to portions of some 2010's and i dont feel they sound bad at all.
years ago we didn't even have official pj bootlegs
and today people still find the need/desire to complain :roll:
i'd rather be grateful for what we have than to bitch about what we don't have
when's the next tour????
What was wrong with Toronto '09? Sounds good to me.
To be honest, I think every bootleg they release sounds great. I'm very grateful they release them so I don't have to rely on mediocre fan recordings and shaky youtube vids to enjoy the show.
I by no means want to invalidate your point of view or opinion so please know this is a statement of all due respect.
IMO, the biggest mistake fans make is comparing the sound quality to past bootlegs. Not one single tour sounds the same in mixing quality. Brett Eliason did al the shows from 2000-2006. He is excellent but also does other woks for other bands and owns Basecamp productions. Barret Jones and John Burton have done the work from 2008 and I think to current but could be wrong. Fact is that with each year the quality is different. It can seem really inferior when comparing one year to another in any way you look at it when comparing.
I completely understand what you are saying and are experiencing though. 2010 is a far cry from superior to past tours released. However, it's damn good quality overall in my own opinion. Could be better of course. I just know from personal experience that when you compare past tours that were released to 2010 that you set your self up for disappointment. Approach it with the tour itself in mind and if without comparison you stil think it sucks so bad then by all means as a consumer, you should request a refund.