why all the hate for "last kiss"?

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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    nevmiles wrote:
    Not a good concert song IMO . . . . but basically, the song isn't that good (anymore). I liked it when it first came out, but the tune and melody itself has worn on me . . . .

    UNLESS you're sitting behind the stage :lol:
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  • Grandmas Jam
    Grandmas Jam Posts: 1,860
    I am the offical president of HOLK (Haters of Last Kiss). The song sucked in the 50s and it still sucks now.
    Ryan Crooks insists upon himself
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,198
    It's a sad loving song. Yes, it get's played over & over & over! But you gotta understand it's a very poppy tune & something radio dj's love to play on air. It's short, not too long, a hit & an emotional tune.

    I also think it's nice when there's seats of fan backstage @ a show that they get their personal tune AKA Last Kiss played infront of them. Cause the rest of the whole show they just get to see their bum's.
  • megatron
    megatron Posts: 3,420
    might have been the first pearl jam song i ever got burned to a mix cd way back in ohh..99 i believe. still like it. never heard it live so i'm sure i'd like it
  • IamTom
    IamTom Posts: 1,138
    I am the offical president of HOLK (Haters of Last Kiss). The song sucked in the 50s and it still sucks now.

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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    I have always liked Last Kiss. I'm sure I've said it before, but the song came out right before I graduated high school in 1999 and was in heavy rotation during my Senior Week at Myrtle Beach. I couldn't wait to go out and buy the single when it came out the next week. I'd always liked Pearl Jam but Last Kiss was the song that made me start buying their albums. Later that summer I went to the record store and picked up Live On Two Legs and I was blown away.

    Sure, Last Kiss brought a lot of new fans to shows who only wanted to hear the hits. Last Kiss also got me hooked an I'm sure there are many more like me that became lifelong fans because of it. Last Kiss will always hold a special place in my heart for opening my ears and bringing me to the realization that Pearl Jam is the greatest band of my generation.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    I loved it when it came out on the Christmas single with Soldier of Love. I thought it was kind of Pearl Jam having a sense of humor, redoing these 2 oldie songs. Then it got huge. I still don't mind when it pops up on the ipod on shuffle for example, but when they play it live, it's kind of a buzzkill. You only get 25 or 30 songs, and if one is Last Kiss... kind of a waste of 1 song. And kind of cheesy. Plus I feel bad for Matt cause the drums are boring as hell. :)
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  • jamburger
    jamburger Posts: 1,775
    Because Solider of Love is a much better cover that got left by the wayside when Last Kiss took off.
  • hdogg151
    hdogg151 Posts: 85
    Because its cheesy as hell and only has 4 chords!!

    I actually feel bad for Stone when I hear it played life, b/c its gotta be so damn boring to play!
  • Chrisilein
    Chrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,909
    I don't love this song but i have no problem to hear it in June or July! Just take a look how great it was in Portugal 2006! Eddie standing on a small platform in the middle of the crowd and 20000+ singing the whole song together!

    Berlin would be a great venue for Last Kiss!
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    I am the offical president of HOLK (Haters of Last Kiss). The song sucked in the 50s and it still sucks now.
    can i be vice president of HOLK?

    the song sucks ..... it is the only pj i ALWAYS skip on the boots.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh4se9YMV3A
    I was very surprised when they did this song. It actually was just another thing to bond me to Pearl Jam. The original I posted here, I was 8, Eddie was just born. I grew up singing along knowing every word, my sisters and I would all sing it together at the top of out lungs when Dad took us out in the stationwagon. Me being the youngest- I was in the way back with my head out the great big rear window. Such a sad song too makes a girl get all choked up, romantic. I love the song but you already know that.
  • airblue1
    airblue1 Posts: 413
    terrible song
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  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Kloddz wrote:
    PJ44 wrote:

    For the most part...

    REAL fans would never like a song that the common folk do. :roll:


    ok but the common folk love alive, even flow, corduroy etc... and so do the REAL fans
    Hence the "no Even Flow" banners at shows and the endless rants about how Even Flow is the song during which everyone should go out and take a leak / buy a beer? No, I don't think the "hardcore" fans love Even Flow. Problem is probably that when you've been to 350 shows you become picky about which songs you wanna hear and don't pick the "mainstream" or successful ones. :roll: So yeah, it's probably the same with Last Kiss - it's too popular and thus uncool. :lol:

    80% of the fans at any given Pearl Jam show have probably seen fewer than 10-15 PJ concerts in their lives (or, depending on where they live, fewer than 5), so they still LOVE hearing Even Flow, Alive, Corduroy, etc. It doesn't make them less of a fan for liking those songs - there's a reason they became huge hits, and that's because they're awesome songs. If someone has seen the band over 350 times and is sick of Even Flow, then that isn't the band's problem - if they play it and see 95% of the crowd going crazy for it, then they're going to keep playing it. And if someone really is bringing a banner to ask the band to NOT play certain songs... then that person should be made to wear a "Don't Mind Me, I'm Just An Idiot" t-shirt for the duration of the show. That's pretty damn disrespectful, regardless of what you think of the song.

    Personally, I would MUCH rather hear Even Flow than The End, and I don't think that makes me any less hardcore a fan than someone who prefers Rival to Daughter. I've been into this band since the first time I heard Alive almost 20 years ago, and every time I listen to Ten it takes me back... it's a warm fuzzy trip down memory lane for me, so you can bet your ass I look forward to Black, Even Flow, Jeremy, Porch, etc. I'd take Ten over Backspacer any day of the week, and that doesn't take away my fan status one bit. I could listen to Oceans every day for the rest of my life and never get sick of it.

    They've been around for almost 20 years, they've released nine studio albums, covered a buttload of songs, and they have a broad fan base. You'll never please everyone. Someone people love Last Kiss and some people hate it - but I don't think your thoughts about any one song determine how big a fan you are. I personally don't like Just Breathe, but I don't look at people who love it (of which, there are many) and think that makes them less of a fan than I am. I think they might like different aspects of Pearl Jam's music, but I don't think there's a right or wrong. Some people want to take a pee break during Even Flow, and others want to take a pee break during Supersonic (though it had better be a quick pee if you're trying to do it with a Backspacer song). Personally, I prefer GA shows to seated, so if you want to pee, go right ahead - and I'll be happy to move up and take your spot :lol:

    That being said... I'm pretty ambivalent towards Last Kiss. It never really resonated with me, and I always liked Soldier of Love better. I guess it's just the fact that it was a little toooo simple for me - there weren't really any layers to it. That being said, judging from the crowd response I'm in the minority at the show, so I'll sing along anyway, be happy that other people are enjoying themselves, and wait for something I like better to come along.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    I DID IT AT KARAOKE ONCE :o8-)
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Grandmas Jam
    Grandmas Jam Posts: 1,860
    I am the offical president of HOLK (Haters of Last Kiss). The song sucked in the 50s and it still sucks now.
    can i be vice president of HOLK?

    the song sucks ..... it is the only pj i ALWAYS skip on the boots.

    Nice to meet you Mr. VP. If you look at all the plays on my iTunes....all my boots have over like 30 listens and last kiss on those boots have maybe 1 oe 2 each hahaha. I let a few slip by before i could get to the skip button
    Ryan Crooks insists upon himself
  • it was the highlight of the show at Knoxville. only the second time they ever played it. lots of emotion.

    pretty much tired of it now though.
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    i don't particularly care for the song itself. but it was pretty awesome how PJ just took that song and completely owned it.

    caught it live a couple of times. it's just whatever.
  • Kloddz
    Kloddz Posts: 2,573
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    80% of the fans at any given Pearl Jam show have probably seen fewer than 10-15 PJ concerts in their lives (or, depending on where they live, fewer than 5), so they still LOVE hearing Even Flow, Alive, Corduroy, etc. It doesn't make them less of a fan for liking those songs - there's a reason they became huge hits, and that's because they're awesome songs. If someone has seen the band over 350 times and is sick of Even Flow, then that isn't the band's problem - if they play it and see 95% of the crowd going crazy for it, then they're going to keep playing it. And if someone really is bringing a banner to ask the band to NOT play certain songs... then that person should be made to wear a "Don't Mind Me, I'm Just An Idiot" t-shirt for the duration of the show. That's pretty damn disrespectful, regardless of what you think of the song.
    And that's exactly what I was trying to say. IMO the band shouldn't try to only please the spoiled people that have been to lots of (OK, my 350 number was a bit exaggerated, but you got the message) shows, and it's a good thing that they don't. Even if they play Alive and Even Flow every night (which they pretty much do), every PJ show is still a great experience (it's not like those songs suck, right?). And with the variation of the rest of the set lists that they bring on night after night, it's also still great for the "regulars" with a rare gem thrown in here and there (and they take requests, too) - you just can't expect every show to be a Vic. In the end it's a win-win situation for everyone, right? I mean c'mon, it's a PJ show, what can go wrong?

    I realize this is all way off topic, so just let me conclude my banter by saying: why now u dont bitching?? :lol:
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  • Claireack
    Claireack Posts: 13,561
    Kloddz wrote:
    why now u dont bitching?? :lol:

    :lol: :thumbup: