EDDIES BEING SUED!
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People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...0
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skyeriverwinter wrote:People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...
Maybe he saw how much the ITW vinyls are going for on Ebay and wants his cut.0 -
skyeriverwinter wrote:People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...0
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Shawshank wrote:skyeriverwinter wrote:People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...
Maybe he saw how much the ITW vinyls are going for on Ebay and wants his cut.0 -
skyeriverwinter wrote:People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...
Fuck that guy. I thought filing lawsuits was an American pastime. What a jack off!0 -
So his song was re-made without his approval or even his knowledge - this seems like a legit gripe? Or did the record company own the song outright?nothing's changed but the surrounding bullsh1t0
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really? that's a shame. i think vedder's version is much better than peterson's by tenfold. i think peterson is just a gold digging piece of shit trying to get money he doesn't deserve. :evil: it's not like ed took credit for the song.. he did give credit where credit was due.. and if it weren't for vedder, no one would really give two shits about the song.
seriously, this world is out of control!
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Hm... so he's being sued because he changed less than ten words (Oh, "Boo hoo") and because he had a bigger success with the song?
Didn't the guy who wrote the song get paid for the song in some way? It kind of sounds like he just wants more money. :?&&&&&&&&&&&&&&0 -
it was a big hit up here when it came out - and I do like the original
what an ass hat - the guy vanished after Indio - maybe he didn't like the attention?
personally neither version of the lyrics of that song had foundation enough to be eroded - if anything it was resurrected
shame
the whole thing has to be like a flea on a hairy asswe're all sentient snowflakes0 -
cropduster82 wrote:he says it degraded the integrity of the song. Be honest, did anyone hear this Gordon Peterson version before Into the Wild came out? My guess is no. I didn't. Eddie's version was played on radio stations and if anything brought royalties to Gordon Peterson. He should be happy. I don't think this lawsuit will go very far. I bet Eddie can afford better lawyers.
Sorry everyone - this was a number one song in Canada in 1989/early 1990 and it was very very heavily played on pretty much every radio station and the video (credited to Indio, which included Joni Mitchell) was played in very heavy rotation on Muchmusic. Just because Americans didn't hear it before Ed did it does not mean it did not exist.
And Ed changed the lyrics quite significantly. I love this song to death and it was/is very special to me back in the day, Ed's changes were really obvious.
Original, "Burned down and threw away the hours..."
Ed, "Bound down and threw away the hours..."
Original, "When I stayed to pillage her..."
Ed, "When I see her bitter/pin her charms..."
I understood that Gordon Peterson could not be found to ask if the lyrics could be changed. He's quite the recluse apparently.
I believe the song is about the planet, so the original words make the most sense...
So, Ed's not perfect. Big deal. But he shouldn't have changed the lyrics without permission. He'd probably freak if someone asked to use Black, and he said sure, and then the lyrics were changed. I would imagine anyone would. Do you mind if you I use the personal song most associated with you and defines you? Would it bug you if I made it better, because I think some things in Black don't make sense? Great! Thanks!be philanthropic0 -
skyeriverwinter wrote:Shawshank wrote:skyeriverwinter wrote:People need to be kinder to this man...there are two sides to every story... I do believe he may just want a little money for his part in the creation of the song. He may be looking at Ed's success with Into The Wild and may want more than is due. Again we shouldn't beat up the man...we are not privy to all of the details...
Maybe he saw how much the ITW vinyls are going for on Ebay and wants his cut.
Gordon here. Should I give you my address so you can send me the free vinyl? Thanks!words seem so out of place.
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Vedderfan10 wrote:cropduster82 wrote:he says it degraded the integrity of the song. Be honest, did anyone hear this Gordon Peterson version before Into the Wild came out? My guess is no. I didn't. Eddie's version was played on radio stations and if anything brought royalties to Gordon Peterson. He should be happy. I don't think this lawsuit will go very far. I bet Eddie can afford better lawyers.
Sorry everyone - this was a number one song in Canada in 1989/early 1990 and it was very very heavily played on pretty much every radio station and the video (credited to Indio, which included Joni Mitchell) was played in very heavy rotation on Muchmusic. Just because Americans didn't hear it before Ed did it does not mean it did not exist.
And Ed changed the lyrics quite significantly. I love this song to death and it was/is very special to me back in the day, Ed's changes were really obvious.
Original, "Burned down and threw away the hours..."
Ed, "Bound down and threw away the hours..."
Original, "When I stayed to pillage her..."
Ed, "When I see her bitter/pin her charms..."
I understood that Gordon Peterson could not be found to ask if the lyrics could be changed. He's quite the recluse apparently.
I believe the song is about the planet, so the original words make the most sense...
So, Ed's not perfect. Big deal. But he shouldn't have changed the lyrics without permission. He'd probably freak if someone asked to use Black, and he said sure, and then the lyrics were changed. I would imagine anyone would. Do you mind if you I use the personal song most associated with you and defines you? Would it bug you if I made it better, because I think some things in Black don't make sense? Great! Thanks!
Nobody said it didn't exist before. And maybe Ed thought that's what he was saying. We sometimes can't understand what Ed is saying.I miss igotid880 -
Vedderfan10 wrote:
Sorry everyone - this was a number one song in Canada in 1989/early 1990 and it was very very heavily played on pretty much every radio station and the video (credited to Indio, which included Joni Mitchell) was played in very heavy rotation on Muchmusic. Just because Americans didn't hear it before Ed did it does not mean it did not exist.
And Ed changed the lyrics quite significantly. I love this song to death and it was/is very special to me back in the day, Ed's changes were really obvious.
Original, "Burned down and threw away the hours..."
Ed, "Bound down and threw away the hours..."
Original, "When I stayed to pillage her..."
Ed, "When I see her bitter/pin her charms..."
I understood that Gordon Peterson could not be found to ask if the lyrics could be changed. He's quite the recluse apparently.
I believe the song is about the planet, so the original words make the most sense...
So, Ed's not perfect. Big deal. But he shouldn't have changed the lyrics without permission. He'd probably freak if someone asked to use Black, and he said sure, and then the lyrics were changed. I would imagine anyone would. Do you mind if you I use the personal song most associated with you and defines you? Would it bug you if I made it better, because I think some things in Black don't make sense? Great! Thanks!
It's good to see the other side of the argument.
You do have a point there....
Did he really have to go through a lawyer, though?
I'm sure Ed would easily have things corrected (clearing the misunderstanding or personal issues Gordon had) if he and Gordon had an conversation as musicians? Especially he, Gordon himself, that EV would gladly talk to right away had he contacted him??JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
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I'm sure this guy signed a contract for a certain amount of money with the record company. Thinking that I wasn't going to be a big deal he said ok and signed for a mediocre amount. after the success he is now rethinking it and wants more money. So let's sue the record company and complain about the lyrics.
People do this all the time. No one ever honors a contract anymore. I'm sure this guys lawyers got him started with this and they'll squeeze every penny out of the record company they can.0 -
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Vedderfan10 wrote:cropduster82 wrote:he says it degraded the integrity of the song. Be honest, did anyone hear this Gordon Peterson version before Into the Wild came out? My guess is no. I didn't. Eddie's version was played on radio stations and if anything brought royalties to Gordon Peterson. He should be happy. I don't think this lawsuit will go very far. I bet Eddie can afford better lawyers.
Sorry everyone - this was a number one song in Canada in 1989/early 1990 and it was very very heavily played on pretty much every radio station and the video (credited to Indio, which included Joni Mitchell) was played in very heavy rotation on Muchmusic. Just because Americans didn't hear it before Ed did it does not mean it did not exist.
And Ed changed the lyrics quite significantly. I love this song to death and it was/is very special to me back in the day, Ed's changes were really obvious.
Original, "Burned down and threw away the hours..."
Ed, "Bound down and threw away the hours..."
Original, "When I stayed to pillage her..."
Ed, "When I see her bitter/pin her charms..."
I understood that Gordon Peterson could not be found to ask if the lyrics could be changed. He's quite the recluse apparently.
I believe the song is about the planet, so the original words make the most sense...
So, Ed's not perfect. Big deal. But he shouldn't have changed the lyrics without permission. He'd probably freak if someone asked to use Black, and he said sure, and then the lyrics were changed. I would imagine anyone would. Do you mind if you I use the personal song most associated with you and defines you? Would it bug you if I made it better, because I think some things in Black don't make sense? Great! Thanks!
I was 7 or 8 years old when it came out and lived in the US which would explain why I never heard it and judging by the majority of people on here, they didn't hear it till ITW came out. But still, I don't think the very minor changes warrant a lawsuit. When an artist asks another artist permission to use a song, it doesn't necessarily mean they have to cover it exactly. They might just use a verse or a solo. Would that "erode the dignity" of the song?He who forgets will be destined to remember.
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what took the guy so fuckin long to bitch about the song? ITW came out like 3 years ago....0
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BabaBooey1979 wrote:I'm sure this guy signed a contract for a certain amount of money with the record company. Thinking that I wasn't going to be a big deal he said ok and signed for a mediocre amount. after the success he is now rethinking it and wants more money. So let's sue the record company and complain about the lyrics.
People do this all the time. No one ever honors a contract anymore. I'm sure this guys lawyers got him started with this and they'll squeeze every penny out of the record company they can.
agree with this. Plus, a frivolous lawsuit against a big name is easy publicity that Gordon would otherwise not have. It's happened before, & will again.0 -
Instead of filing a lawsuit, could Mr. Peterson - upon indirect re-surfacing - not have tried to contact Eddie, or Sean Penn.Post edited by tootough on0
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Enjoy the royalites, Peterson. I mean really, he probably made more money off of iTunes sales of Eddie's single than he ever has in the past. And because of that, he's going to try to milk it for all it's worth with this proposed lawsuit. I understand where he's coming from with his claim...but it's so petty.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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