Rocker EDDIE VEDDER is fighting legal action from a Canadian singer/songwriter for changing the lyrics to a song he recorded for the INTO THE WILD soundtrack.
The Pearl Jam star recorded Gordon Peterson's tune Hard Sun in 2007 for Sean Penn's hit film, but Peterson, who originally wrote the track in 1987, wasn't happy when he heard the finished version - and realised the rock icon had altered the lyrics.
Peterson is now suing Vedder and has filed papers in New York's Manhattan federal court.
The suit states, "Vedder altered certain key lyrics of Hard Sun... eroding the integrity of the composition."
Executives at Universal Music are also targeted in the lawsuit after allegedly licensing the track without his permission.
Peterson is demanding all profits from the "acts of infringement".
However, Vedder's lawyer Gregory Clarick insists Peterson has no grounds for complaint.
He tells the New York Post, "We don't see any basis for a copyright infringement claim."
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The Juggler
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oh no. i just saw a thread was created about this yesterday. wonder how long it will take someone to call me an ass for not using the search function correctly? deal with it !
Well Eddie has a shitload of money, I think he will be okay. Famous people probably get sued all the time for that kinda crap. Plus if he was already given permission to cover the song then theres no copyright, this loser Canadian needs to get over himself, he's just mad cuz his original version isn't nearly as popular.
Rocker EDDIE VEDDER is fighting legal action from a Canadian singer/songwriter for changing the lyrics to a song he recorded for the INTO THE WILD soundtrack.
The Pearl Jam star recorded Gordon Peterson's tune Hard Sun in 2007 for Sean Penn's hit film, but Peterson, who originally wrote the track in 1987, wasn't happy when he heard the finished version - and realised the rock icon had altered the lyrics.
Peterson is now suing Vedder and has filed papers in New York's Manhattan federal court.
The suit states, "Vedder altered certain key lyrics of Hard Sun... eroding the integrity of the composition."
Executives at Universal Music are also targeted in the lawsuit after allegedly licensing the track without his permission.
Peterson is demanding all profits from the "acts of infringement".
However, Vedder's lawyer Gregory Clarick insists Peterson has no grounds for complaint.
He tells the New York Post, "We don't see any basis for a copyright infringement claim."
I think the guy probably saw a resurgence in sales and figured he could continue milking the cash cow. In this case, I think his Green Disease is getting the better of him. It's now obvious why he only has a single album release at this date as he doesn't play well with others.
In Ed's case, he gave credit where credit was due. I'm sure there was some money exchanged between the labels for royalties, etc. I don't see this going anywhere.
This sort of case dates back to the 1930s and 40s. To enable white artists to be able to "steal" songs from black artists, Congress passed a law stating that once a recording is commercially released by the songwriter, anyone else can release their own version of the same song as long as they pay the publishing royalties to the owner of the publishing rights. The amount was miniscule, something like 2 cents per pressed copy. This is what is known as a compulsory mechanical license (since the royalties were based on the number of copies that were mechanically reproduced). This allowed white artists to pretty much steal the songs written by black artists, since they did not need permission, and they paid a very small royalty.
The same law is in effect today, however, if the artist recording the new version want to change any lyrics, etc, said artist must get the permission of the songwriter/holder of the publishing rights.
This law has always baffled me. If a Neo-Nazi band wants to release a recording of a Pearl Jam song, as long as the new version stays true to the original version, there is no way to stop them from doing it!
i think they should hire someone to delete all the duplication... or consolidate it into one thread
we could have like 6 threads total
I'll volunteer for that. We could boil it all down to (other than the sticky threads):
Porch:
--Sell/buy/trade/bitch about posters and bootlegs and vinyl
--Who's meeting up before/after shows and where
--Funny/stupid anecdotes and pictures of the band
--News about the band (tweets) and reaction Given to Fly:
--Look at how much fun we had at the show. Too bad you were halfway around the world. Words and music:
--How much I love PJ's music and why.
THATS IT!
The worst was last night when they happened to play PJ during Monday Night Football and there were instantly like 7 new threads letting us know.
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to the jealger's defense the search function here is almost if not completely useless most of the time. Hope ed held on to some of that Ten and ITW money just in case;) Team Vedward all the way....
to the jealger's defense the search function here is almost if not completely useless most of the time. Hope ed held on to some of that Ten and ITW money just in case;) Team Vedward all the way....
gracias...however i need no defense as i simply choose not to use the search function.
to the jealger's defense the search function here is almost if not completely useless most of the time. Hope ed held on to some of that Ten and ITW money just in case;) Team Vedward all the way....
gracias...however i need no defense as i simply choose not to use the search function.
I got to play devil's advocate here. First of all, assuming he agreed, if Peterson was not aware that his lyrics were being altered he has some cause to be upset. It may seem like a small change, but when you're a writer and you are particular about your words, I could see how it would be irritating for someone to alter your words. Moreover, I decided to give Peterson's Big Harvest album a listen and was a little shocked. Personally, I heard some stuff that could've been pulled from a few Pearl Jam albums (even though the album was released well before Ten or any other Pearl Jam album). I also found it interesting how well Hard Sun "fit" Vedder. Like I was really surprised that he didn't write it. But seriously, listen to the song Grinding Wheel. I was convinced for a minute that it was actually the opening of Ten. I am by no means suggesting Eddie Vedder or Pearl Jam stole any ideas from Peterson or anything of the sort, but to me there is a definite similarity between Big Harvest and some Pearl Jam compositions.
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This sort of case dates back to the 1930s and 40s. To enable white artists to be able to "steal" songs from black artists, Congress passed a law stating that once a recording is commercially released by the songwriter, anyone else can release their own version of the same song as long as they pay the publishing royalties to the owner of the publishing rights. The amount was miniscule, something like 2 cents per pressed copy. This is what is known as a compulsory mechanical license (since the royalties were based on the number of copies that were mechanically reproduced). This allowed white artists to pretty much steal the songs written by black artists, since they did not need permission, and they paid a very small royalty.
The same law is in effect today, however, if the artist recording the new version want to change any lyrics, etc, said artist must get the permission of the songwriter/holder of the publishing rights.
This law has always baffled me. If a Neo-Nazi band wants to release a recording of a Pearl Jam song, as long as the new version stays true to the original version, there is no way to stop them from doing it!
its a ridiculous concept that would make virtually every cover illegal. give me a break.
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VEDDER SUED OVER INTO THE WILD SONG
Rocker EDDIE VEDDER is fighting legal action from a Canadian singer/songwriter for changing the lyrics to a song he recorded for the INTO THE WILD soundtrack.
The Pearl Jam star recorded Gordon Peterson's tune Hard Sun in 2007 for Sean Penn's hit film, but Peterson, who originally wrote the track in 1987, wasn't happy when he heard the finished version - and realised the rock icon had altered the lyrics.
Peterson is now suing Vedder and has filed papers in New York's Manhattan federal court.
The suit states, "Vedder altered certain key lyrics of Hard Sun... eroding the integrity of the composition."
Executives at Universal Music are also targeted in the lawsuit after allegedly licensing the track without his permission.
Peterson is demanding all profits from the "acts of infringement".
However, Vedder's lawyer Gregory Clarick insists Peterson has no grounds for complaint.
He tells the New York Post, "We don't see any basis for a copyright infringement claim."
use the search function!
ass.
it was not on the first page actually. still, what do you make of this?
you have over 2400 posts
thats what i make of it
i don't care for the search function, kat. i think it should be abolished. i also think you should be banned.
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I think the guy probably saw a resurgence in sales and figured he could continue milking the cash cow. In this case, I think his Green Disease is getting the better of him. It's now obvious why he only has a single album release at this date as he doesn't play well with others.
In Ed's case, he gave credit where credit was due. I'm sure there was some money exchanged between the labels for royalties, etc. I don't see this going anywhere.
we could have like 6 threads total
ha ha
but, ummmm really...how did u get yourself UNlearned?
Don't care
The same law is in effect today, however, if the artist recording the new version want to change any lyrics, etc, said artist must get the permission of the songwriter/holder of the publishing rights.
This law has always baffled me. If a Neo-Nazi band wants to release a recording of a Pearl Jam song, as long as the new version stays true to the original version, there is no way to stop them from doing it!
I'll volunteer for that. We could boil it all down to (other than the sticky threads):
Porch:
--Sell/buy/trade/bitch about posters and bootlegs and vinyl
--Who's meeting up before/after shows and where
--Funny/stupid anecdotes and pictures of the band
--News about the band (tweets) and reaction
Given to Fly:
--Look at how much fun we had at the show. Too bad you were halfway around the world.
Words and music:
--How much I love PJ's music and why.
THATS IT!
The worst was last night when they happened to play PJ during Monday Night Football and there were instantly like 7 new threads letting us know.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
gracias...however i need no defense as i simply choose not to use the search function.
dude... :roll:
I also don't care that this is the second thread on the topic.
dude, you gotta stand for something or you'll fall for anything
good for you. board nazis are the lowest form of nazis if you ask me
why were they sued for benaroya?
Wha? Benaroya? This is the first time i've ever heard of ed being sued.. then again i didn't join the message pit until like 03
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