EDDIES BEING SUED!

PA Jammer
PA Jammer Tamaqua, Pa. Posts: 341
edited January 2010 in The Porch
Article from today's New York Post

Ed doesn't seem too worried about it!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/v ... yWRxgVhzVO
Tom- Tamaqua PA

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  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    he says it degraded the integrity of the song. Be honest, did anyone hear this Gordon Peterson version before Into the Wild came out? My guess is no. I didn't. Eddie's version was played on radio stations and if anything brought royalties to Gordon Peterson. He should be happy. I don't think this lawsuit will go very far. I bet Eddie can afford better lawyers.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,640
    interesting. yeah, i wouldn't worry about it. it looks like the record company is really the one who would have to worry, and it looks like they are providing the lawyer. First off, Ed's version rocks. 2nd, as was pointed out, this actually gave the original writer more attention and profits. And finally, it's not like Ed claimed the song to be his own, he gave credit where credit was due. Back in the old days, things were a lot different, for instance, when the Rolling Stones recorded Love In Vain by Robert Johnson, they were able to claim it as their own by calling it arranged by Jagger & Richards.

    Perhaps Sean Penn, Vedder, the movie company or the record company could have done more to make sure this version was okay, but from everything I have read, the original writer is someone who sort of shunned society and is hard to find, let alone get ahold of, so it was sort of his choice to go in hiding, don't compain when you are the reason people can't reach you.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • InHerOwnWorld
    InHerOwnWorld Posts: 592
    cropduster82 wrote:
    Be honest, did anyone hear this Gordon Peterson version before Into the Wild came out? My guess is no./quote]
    Exactly :roll:
  • Ample Jar
    Ample Jar Posts: 247
    Does anyone know where I can hear a sample of the original (Peterson's) version? I'm curious to see how Eddie made it his own.

    I remember trying to find anything about it when ITW originally came out, but had no luck.
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  • InHerOwnWorld
    InHerOwnWorld Posts: 592
    Ample Jar wrote:
    Does anyone know where I can hear a sample of the original (Peterson's) version? I'm curious to see how Eddie made it his own.

    I remember trying to find anything about it when ITW originally came out, but had no luck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5KXozi_HM

    Here it be.
  • Ample Jar
    Ample Jar Posts: 247
    SuchACharmer wrote:
    Ample Jar wrote:
    Does anyone know where I can hear a sample of the original (Peterson's) version? I'm curious to see how Eddie made it his own.

    I remember trying to find anything about it when ITW originally came out, but had no luck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb5KXozi_HM

    Here it be.

    God I'm old. I always forget about youtube :) Thanks SuchACharmer

    I'm surprised how much Ed's version sounds like the original. That's such a cool song, can't believe it wasn't more well known before Ed did it.
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  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    OK. After hearing the original, I fail to hear where Eddie "eroded" the original version. He totally nailed this song. This is a baseless claim by whoever is bringing this lawsuit. I still like Eddie's version better, but that is a damn good song anyway.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    "Vedder altered certain key lyrics of 'Hard Sun' . . . eroding the integrity of the composition."

    huh? just listened to the original and it seems to me ed was very faithful to the original...maybe you should have brought this up, oh i don't know, 2 years ago, gordon :roll:
  • hedave
    hedave Posts: 201
    Had Peterson not heard the song until recently? Gordon Peterson's now the world's biggest doucher!
    He who forgets will be destined to remember...
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    This is very old news...been going on for some time now
  • joebot
    joebot Posts: 372
    Wow , talk about splitting hairs ! Yeesh.
    "integrity of the composition" isn't that a subjective concept anyways ?
    I have a feeling Eddie will easily prevail on this baseless claim.
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,168
    no big deal...if you record long enough you'll get sued.Surprise there aren't more lawsuits
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Wonder what Mickey Munoz thinks about Ed stealing his stance...the "Quasimodo"

    :)Eddie+Vedder+eddie_beach.jpg

    quasimodo.jpg

    Never knew the context of that photo until yesterday when I was reading "Legends of Surfing" book. Kind of cool.
  • Ample Jar
    Ample Jar Posts: 247
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Wonder what Mickey Munoz thinks about Ed stealing his stance...the "Quasimodo"

    :)Eddie+Vedder+eddie_beach.jpg

    quasimodo.jpg

    Never knew the context of that photo until yesterday when I was reading "Legends of Surfing" book. Kind of cool.
    I smell another lawsuit coming...Eddie totally eroded the integrity of that stance! :lol:

    (Weird side note: was just looking at the mickeymunoz.com site where that photo came from and it says that pic was taken by John Severson... that's not a very common last name 8-) )
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Nice poster too...

    eddie+vedder+hawaii+poster2.jpg
  • PJ Fan est. 1990
    PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    Ample Jar wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Wonder what Mickey Munoz thinks about Ed stealing his stance...the "Quasimodo"

    :)Eddie+Vedder+eddie_beach.jpg

    quasimodo.jpg

    Never knew the context of that photo until yesterday when I was reading "Legends of Surfing" book. Kind of cool.
    I smell another lawsuit coming...Eddie totally eroded the integrity of that stance! :lol:

    (Weird side note: was just looking at the mickeymunoz.com site where that photo came from and it says that pic was taken by John Severson... that's not a very common last name 8-) )

    haha, whenever i wear my ITW shirt, people always make note of the picture and they think he's on a skateboard...i guess they're on the right track since it's really some obscure surfing stance...

    i always thought he was jumping from rock to rock and he landed in that position with his arms out for balance...awesome picture got to say
  • Tremendous Upside
    Tremendous Upside Posts: 118
    From what I can gather from a quick listen to that youtube, it seems like Eddie changed the following lyrics:

    "When I stay to pillage her/She just throws it back at me" to "When I see her inner charm/She just throws it back at me"

    "She just smiled and laughed at me/And took her blues back again" to "She just smiled and laughed at me/And took her rules back again"

    These are pretty minor changes, although I bet that Gordon Peterson is particularly pissed about the "pillage" line

    Pillage wouldn't have fit within the context for which Eddie was using the song

    The second is even more minor, and ties in to the themes of "rules" of both society and nature that are prevalent throughout the story

    All in all a pretty baseless claim IMO, but anyone can sue anyone about anything here in America

    That's why Eddie, the Band and the record label all have lawyers
  • LloydXmas
    LloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Looks like someone is a little jealous of the success of this song. I should sue the original Artist after hearing his version
  • IamMine
    IamMine Posts: 2,743
    BabaBooey1979 wrote:
    Looks like someone is a little jealous of the success of this song. I should sue the original Artist after hearing his version

    :lol: *high 5's*

    No shit... people are unbelievable. :roll:

    I, too, lost respect for Gordon... I had goggled that song and came across him on YT before...and admired EV for paying respect by singing that song.

    If I were an artist, I would be honored that EV enjoyed my song or art so much that he's singing or displaying it and giving me more exposure.

    WTF...and it's not like EV ever claimed he wrote that song either.... he gave credit when it's due, always.

    Maybe the jealous party is mad that people are telling him they like EV's version better? :lol:

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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    cropduster82 wrote:
    he says it degraded the integrity of the song.

    Yea and lets not forget that "degrading the integrity of a song" is totally something that can be proven in court. Such hard and real evidence....
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