Why is there no outrage here??

13

Comments

  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    You asked "why is there no outrage HERE"? HERE being the operative word. Probably 90% of the people on NonMT are hardcore liberals that believe Obama can do no wrong. HOPE and CHANGE.... HOPE we can CHANGE America into a socialists country. YES WE CAN! Kill Capitalism and private sectors. How's all that hope and change working for ya?

    there are plenty of things to not like about Obama but the things you are railing against make absolute no sense - he is nowhere close to being a socialist - if anything he's boosting capitalism and the private sector ...

    seriously, partisanship is killing democracy - if people don't pay attention and just listen to the garbage coming out of some PR firm - nothing is ever gonna change ...

    BOOSTING CAPITALISM? WHAT FREAKIN PLANET ARE YOU ON?

    Is this what you call boosting capitalism? Scarey how so many people are so out of touch with what is really going on in America right now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Values of Health Care Stocks Increase Fearlessly as Public Option Is Dead
    Tuesday, 22 December 2009

    Wall Street Celebrates Senate's "Significantly Watered Down" Health Care Bill

    Dear Friends,

    Wall Street is celebrating "Health Care Reform." According to an industry insider report yesterday by MarketWatch (Gibson and Britt) health care stocks rallied as the bill moved through the Senate, particularly since there is no public option in the bill to compete or compare with insurance company rate-making.

    "Health care investors find themselves having confronted their greatest fear, and, while there will be legislation, it will be significantly watered down ..." said Mike O'Rourke, chief market strategist at BTIG LLC. As a result, shares of Aetna gained 4.7%, while Cigna rose 3.9%. United Health and Wellpoint "rallied to 52-week highs."

    Once the bill becomes law, insurance companies will gain at least 26 million new customers and as much as $50 billion in new annual revenue from private-pay and from government subsidies as people will be required by law to purchase private insurance. While certain expenses are capped in the bill, it appears that premium costs are not.

    The Senate's move prompted Gregory Nersessian of Credit Suisse to raise his price targets [predicting greater strength of stock performance] on seven insurers: Aetna, Cigna, Amerigroup Corp., Humana Inc., Molina Healthcare Inc., UnitedHealth Group Inc. and Wellcare Health Plans Inc.

    " ... the [bill] is a positive first step" Nersessian said in a note to clients. "The heavy lifting will come when Congress is forced to slow the rate of medical cost growth through more aggressive payment restrictions and utilization controls down the road," he said - meaning that this particular industry insider is predicting limitations on benefits.

    Marketwatch also wrote that none of the new standards on how much the industry must spend on medical expenses will "impose great hardship on any insurers."
  • TravisTheSky
    TravisTheSky Posts: 615
    KB262864 wrote:
    I personally love my post office (College Park, FL). They are very fast and always helpful. I guess other people do not have good experiences with their post offices. I would argue that our National Park service is the envy of the world. Don't forget that a lot of the facilities at National Parks were built by the CCC. That was part of FDR's New Deal.

    I don't know what will happen to it in the future, but the post office is one institution that works well for me. I have shipped out and received over 1000 eBay items over the past two years. Not one single item has ever been lost or damaged! It's a great service.

    Unfortunately, most of our National Parks are now "U.N. World Heritage Sites." We don't have much jurisdiction over them any longer.
    "May you live in interesting times."
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    Godfather. wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    rage is contagious and if we are not careful it can turn on us but I gotta tell ya, I called bullshit on obama
    while he was running, when he said he wanted to change America that should have been a clue..the only
    thing that needs change is local and federal government we need leader's that remember,understand and
    work for the people they were elected to serve.

    TED NUGENT FOR PRESIDENT !!!!

    Godfather.

    ted nugent? oh please. I know he thinks that everyone is just dying to be like him, but that's not the case.

    definition of hypocrite - ted nugent

    he talks about war being the answer. he says ''whenever i hear anyone blurt out the obscenity that war is not the answer, you're looking at a retarded individual"

    gotta love that comment from the same individual that dodged the draft by pissing and shitting in his pants for at least ten days before his draft board physical, and not washing at all so he could get a deferment.

    biggest. hypocrite. ever.

    ;) to each his/her own cupcake.
    you must be a obama supporter,well thats all good for you.
    enjoy.

    Godfather.
    interesting you think i have to be an obama supporter to think that nugent is a hypocrite? you are incorrect.

    now, do you have any comment on what i actually wrote about the hypocrisy of nugent, or do you wanna take another lame shot?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    TravisTheSky wrote:
    KB262864 wrote:
    I personally love my post office (College Park, FL). They are very fast and always helpful. I guess other people do not have good experiences with their post offices. I would argue that our National Park service is the envy of the world. Don't forget that a lot of the facilities at National Parks were built by the CCC. That was part of FDR's New Deal.

    I don't know what will happen to it in the future, but the post office is one institution that works well for me. I have shipped out and received over 1000 eBay items over the past two years. Not one single item has ever been lost or damaged! It's a great service.

    Unfortunately, most of our National Parks are now "U.N. World Heritage Sites." We don't have much jurisdiction over them any longer.

    i completely agree. i always laugh and mention the post office whenever people say things like "the government can't do anything right!"

    i mean to me its pretty cool that i put a stamp on something, drop it in a blue container and three days later it get to whatever business or whatever person it was addressed to....the logistics and success rate of that system is amazing to me.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    if you all haven't seen this it's worth a read.......

    Godfather.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12 ... -overhaul/
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.

    :lol:
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:
    What happened to CHANGE?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:
    What happened to CHANGE?
    i dunno...what happened to change??

    oh yeah, its a lot harder to change things when you have the entire gop that will vote against everything that has been proposed so far, even when some of their constituents will benefit from it. partisonship is a bitch, no?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:

    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:

    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm

    Or are you just saying that it's happened in the past so now it's ok like you always do.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm
    ...
    Can you do be a favor and source this?
    Because 3 Billion Dollars is a lot of fucking money... I want to know what they (the bribers) got for that much money.
    Thanx.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm
    ...
    Can you do be a favor and source this?
    Because 3 Billion Dollars is a lot of fucking money... I want to know what they (the bribers) got for that much money.
    Thanx.

    It was only $100million . But still

    http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/ ... t=1million.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm
    ...
    Can you do be a favor and source this?
    Because 3 Billion Dollars is a lot of fucking money... I want to know what they (the bribers) got for that much money.
    Thanx.

    It was only $100million . But still

    http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/ ... t=1million.
    ...
    This?
    "The NRSC’s comments appear to be referring to $100 million in Medicaid money that would be directed toward her state. "
    Isn't that what Representatives are supposed to be doing... bring in money to the state they Represent? And is that any different from Sam Nunn or Ed Royce voting on military programs that bring money that translates to jobs and economic boost to their states or districts?
    ...
    Where is the full story... the one that says who paid who for this? Was it a hospital? A Doctor? A University? Who paid for her vote?
    Thanx.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Maybe this will help..

    http://www.nypostonline.com/p/news/opin ... XCk9AT3h4L
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    mb262200 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The thing that pisses me off the most is that if the dems don't get the votes they need they buy them....what a bunch of sell outs.
    thats never happened ever in the history of politics :roll:

    Are you seriously going to tell me that you do not believe that votes have been bought. Landrieu gave her vote for 300,000,000. You can't be that out of touch with what's going on here. But then again, you don't listen to Fox so maybe you wouldn't know about it. Also, that 3000,000,000 is from mine and yours tax dollars.
    Mmm Mmm Mmm

    im guessing you have no sarcasm detector...are you going to call that pork?? last i checked federal money funds medicaid and medicare and representatives wheel and deal to secure that funding. and i do not believe your figure of $300 BILLION dollars going to one person...give me a legitimate source and i will change my mind.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    mb262200 wrote:
    Or are you just saying that it's happened in the past so now it's ok like you always do.

    i don't know, why don't you quote me a fox news source like YOU always do. by the way, your figure has an extra 0 in it in this post. make up your fucking mind...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Maybe this will help..

    http://www.nypostonline.com/p/news/opin ... XCk9AT3h4L
    ...
    Again... is this going to the Senator... or the state of Louisiana?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i think it speaks volumes of how informed our people are when somebody in this thread referred to "fiscal responsibility" as "physical responsibility".

    What ? You mean you don't want our elected officials to take care of themselves ? You would rather they just spend our tax dollars and not listen to what their constituents expect from them ? And you call your self a liberal ? :roll:

    every poll i have seen says that americans want health insurance reform and greater than 60% want a public option or single payor. i am for single payor so in my opinion this senate bill goes nowhere near far enough. maybe we can get the house bill passed which has a public option. by the way, i do not get your reply. if it was sarcastic it makes no sense, and you trying to play off your comment about "physical responsibility" makes you look silly.

    why don't you offer a suggestion on how to fix this other than your party line of "NO NO NO WAHHH!!!!"



    what about this poll then.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... are_reform

Categories