No Grateful Dead comparisons!

People compare Pearl Jam to the Grateful Dead in the way both bands tour, Pearl Jam tours a lot and has many people follow them on tour, Grateful Dead did the same thing, i don't think anyone is saying the fans or the music are the same when they compare the two bands.

i'd try to straighten you out but since you have all these bullshit sterotypes about the dead i feel it would be a lost cause.....just let me say the comparison between the dead and pearl jam lies in the fanaticism of the fan.....we know everything about the band....we will travel all over the world to see them play live....and like the dead, pj members respect us and treat us well...

DischordVision wrote:

I think we all need, as PJ fans, attempt to lose or disassociate w/ the Grateful Dead comparisons that have been written & talked about over the past 5-6 years.
First off, the Grateful Dead are dead, have been since Jerry Garcia died in 1995. Second, we are not nor am I by any means burnt out druggie hippies trying to revive the 1960's & 70's on a daily basis. Third, the music is huge parallels apart from each other. The Grateful Dead were just a dope/LSD laced jam band that happened to form in a city(San Francisco) that accepted that sort of birth at the time. We however, are not druggies (I hope) & have more intelligence & intrigue than most fans of rock bands. Pearl Jam's soul & identity gives way to the freedom of punk rock & the all out integrity of 70's arena rock. Ok, so the Dead & PJ had a lot of music out in a short length of time at their peak & the Ten Club members/die hards know the songs like their short n' curlys, so what? Pearl Jam's still alive, always have been & we know they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
So what makes us survive? The band's topics such as politics, evolution & faith? you decide...not some critic who sees us & the band as new age jam heads...no thank you at all...

stop preaching. not your stong suit.

DischordVision wrote:

I think we all need, as PJ fans, attempt to lose or disassociate w/ the Grateful Dead comparisons that have been written & talked about over the past 5-6 years.
First off, the Grateful Dead are dead, have been since Jerry Garcia died in 1995. Second, we are not nor am I by any means burnt out druggie hippies trying to revive the 1960's & 70's on a daily basis. Third, the music is huge parallels apart from each other. The Grateful Dead were just a dope/LSD laced jam band that happened to form in a city(San Francisco) that accepted that sort of birth at the time. We however, are not druggies (I hope) & have more intelligence & intrigue than most fans of rock bands. Pearl Jam's soul & identity gives way to the freedom of punk rock & the all out integrity of 70's arena rock. Ok, so the Dead & PJ had a lot of music out in a short length of time at their peak & the Ten Club members/die hards know the songs like their short n' curlys, so what? Pearl Jam's still alive, always have been & we know they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
So what makes us survive? The band's topics such as politics, evolution & faith? you decide...not some critic who sees us & the band as new age jam heads...no thank you at all...

Wow... Let me start by saying you are an idiot. I am a huge Grateful Dead fan and do not fit any of the stereotypes you speak of. It was a completely different generation of people who followed the Dead... that doesn't make them morons; just different than you... As for not going anywhere anytime soon I believe any of us would be thrilled if PJ lasted close to as long as the Dead did. Like others said people only compare the 2 because of their cult followings and their extensive live catalogues. Now please stop acting like a dick and assuming other PJ fans are as stuck up as you are because from my experience most are not.

just throwin it out there...u sound like a creed fan, so i prolly won't listen to u...

DischordVision wrote:

I think we all need, as PJ fans, attempt to lose or disassociate w/ the Grateful Dead comparisons that have been written & talked about over the past 5-6 years.
First off, the Grateful Dead are dead, have been since Jerry Garcia died in 1995. Second, we are not nor am I by any means burnt out druggie hippies trying to revive the 1960's & 70's on a daily basis. Third, the music is huge parallels apart from each other. The Grateful Dead were just a dope/LSD laced jam band that happened to form in a city(San Francisco) that accepted that sort of birth at the time. We however, are not druggies (I hope) & have more intelligence & intrigue than most fans of rock bands. Pearl Jam's soul & identity gives way to the freedom of punk rock & the all out integrity of 70's arena rock. Ok, so the Dead & PJ had a lot of music out in a short length of time at their peak & the Ten Club members/die hards know the songs like their short n' curlys, so what? Pearl Jam's still alive, always have been & we know they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
So what makes us survive? The band's topics such as politics, evolution & faith? you decide...not some critic who sees us & the band as new age jam heads...no thank you at all...

since you have already been knocked off your high horse and were deservedly beaten for your idiotic comments, i won't kick you while you're down.

Well, my computer just crashed and I don't have anywhere near the energy to re-type the essay of reasons why your original post is the biggest load of horseshit I've ever read, so I'll keep it simple.

First - the Dead are not dead. Just because Jerry Garcia died does not mean the band does not live on. To say this goes against all he lived for. And aside from the that, the remaining members still tour. Their music has lived on and will continue to live on in the hearts of Deadheads for years to come!

Second - Do not ever group "us" all together when speaking such idiocies. Even though I am a hippie at heart, I'm not a "burnt out druggie," but there might be some Pearl Jam fans that are. And I'm sure, there are many Dead fans who aren't. But even if somebody is, that does not automatically make you any better of a person. As for trying to revive the 60s and 70s, I can only hope for that. In my opinion, it was a better time, at least musically, with the exception of Pearl Jam, obviously.

Third - Please show me the article that compares the music of the two bands. I don't think anybody on the face of the planet has ever compared their music.

Lastly, I will comment on this:

DischordVision wrote:

Pearl Jam's still alive, always have been & we know they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

I guarantee that there are broken hearted Dead fans all over that will contest to how easy it is for your favorite band to suddenly "end." If not for the sudden passing of Garcia, they would most likely still be touring as the Dead and their fans would still be ever so dedicated. I think we can all agree how heart broken we would be if something sudden changed the current dynamic of Pearl Jam, but I'd like to think that their music would live on regardless, as the Dead's has.

Personally, being associated with true deadheads, is a huge compliment. Their passion is unparalleled, but I think Pearl Jam fans come really close.

how can you deny the comparisons??... PJ have fans that follow them around globally, we collect artsy collectable posters like crazy, we love it when they have sweet extended solos ("jams" in GD's case), ive seen infinite threads talking about how much pot elevates the impact of PJ's music, PJ do alot of covers of other bands, ed and jerry both have beards, PJ has a keyboardist now, giving matt extended drum solo on evenflow, the fans have gatherings even when theres not a concert within months, both use a skull logo pretty extensively, PJ is nothing without stone just like GD is nothing without bob, if youve been to a PJ show with camping facilities id be able to find infinite more similarities (etc, etc, etc)

im a big GD fan... i see no problem with the comparisons... an avid fan is an avid fan... doesnt matter who youre supporting... as long as no green bay packer comparisons get started...

sgossard3 wrote:

how can you deny the comparisons??... PJ have fans that follow them around globally, we collect artsy collectable posters like crazy, we love it when they have sweet extended solos ("jams" in GD's case), ive seen infinite threads talking about how much pot elevates the impact of PJ's music, PJ do alot of covers of other bands, ed and jerry both have beards, PJ has a keyboardist now, giving matt extended drum solo on evenflow, the fans have gatherings even when theres not a concert within months, both use a skull logo pretty extensively, PJ is nothing without stone just like GD is nothing without bob, if youve been to a PJ show with camping facilities id be able to find infinite more similarities (etc, etc, etc)

im a big GD fan... i see no problem with the comparisons... an avid fan is an avid fan... doesnt matter who youre supporting... as long as no green bay packer comparisons get started...

Favre is the Eddie of the Packers and the Packers are the Pearl Jam of the NFL!