Ireland Cheated from World Cup Finals

South of Seattle · November 2009

polaris_x wrote:

norm wrote:

“I will be honest, it was a hand ball. But I’m not the ref,” Henry said. “I played it. The ref allowed it. That’s a question you should ask him.”

Asked if he regretted the handball, he replied: “No, no, we’re qualified.”

what a tool! i cheated but since the refs didn't see it, it didn't happen...what an asshole

did jordan push off on byron russell? ... at least he didn't try to say "god" did it ... i'm not saying he should be proud of it but the reality is (especially in team sports) that you try and get away with things and he did ...

Exactly, calls are missed all the time. The refs can't see every play. If they want to blame anyone, blame FIFA for not having instant replay.

jimed14 · November 2009

How does the saying go ...

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin' ... and if you ain't caught, you ain't cheatin'.

norm · November 2009

jimed14 wrote:

How does the saying go ...

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin' ... and if you ain't caught, you ain't cheatin'.

and there's another old saying

cheaters are assholes

ok maybe it isn't old but it's still true

philthehip · November 2009

Sadly Ireland will not get a replay, Henry and his cheating has not only cost Ireland a place in the world cup but it will cost the Irish economy alot of money in lost revenue. I feel that Henry has openly admitted he cheated and is not sorry for it so if FIFA took a stand and kicked him out of the world cup it would serve as a lesson to the rest of the footballing world that cheating would not be tolerated. There is too much cheating across the sport now and it will destroy any shred of pride fans feel. Every week in the Premiership someone is tackled and goes down as if shot at close range. Ref books or worse, sends off player and then the cheat jumps to his feet and all is well. Cheats should be banned from all sports. None of this serve a ban shite. You cheat, Your out. Dwane Chambers took drugs and IOC kicked him out for life from the Olympics. The right thing to do as he was a role model for our kids. Anyway Im babbling.

YOU CHEAT IN SPORT AND YOU SHOULD BE HUNG TILL YOUR DEAD

JordyWordy · November 2009

We were never going to get a replay, and there are plenty of people to blame for the whole thing.
Having watched all 12 games of ours in the campaign i knew we wouldnt score many of our chances. anyone who watches football will know that if you repeatedly have chances (and dont score them) against a team as good as France they will punish you. We should've been a few goals up, we had the chances, we didnt take them.

Having said that, Henry should get a ban, and hopefully this whole media furore will lead to some Video technology being tried.

The ref played a very good game i though, except for not spotting that, and he shouldve booked Lass Diarra many times but didnt.

I'm going to Barcelona next week, i'd planned on taking it easy. Now ive got to find Henry's house, and kill him in cold blood. No remorse.

polaris_x · November 2009

South of Seattle wrote:

Exactly, calls are missed all the time. The refs can't see every play. If they want to blame anyone, blame FIFA for not having instant replay.

don't get me wrong - although i agree with you that calls are missed ... this is blatant corruption here ... FIFA like most world goerning bodies are corrupt as hell ... they changed the rules to give France the best chance to get in and when it looked like it could be problematic ... they made sure the refs did their part ...

the ref lied on the field telling an irish player it was 100% not a hand ball ... and we're not even talking about the offsides either ...

at this stage - the only way there is a replay if France agrees to one out of honour

South of Seattle · November 2009

polaris_x wrote:

South of Seattle wrote:

Exactly, calls are missed all the time. The refs can't see every play. If they want to blame anyone, blame FIFA for not having instant replay.

don't get me wrong - although i agree with you that calls are missed ... this is blatant corruption here ... FIFA like most world goerning bodies are corrupt as hell ... they changed the rules to give France the best chance to get in and when it looked like it could be problematic ... they made sure the refs did their part ...

the ref lied on the field telling an irish player it was 100% not a hand ball ... and we're not even talking about the offsides either ...

at this stage - the only way there is a replay if France agrees to one out of honour

The Ref didn't lie if at that point in time he didn't know if it was a handball or not.

The part that didn't make sense to me was the fact that the game was in the 102nd minute.

Was there 12 min of extra time or something? :think:

polaris_x · November 2009

South of Seattle wrote:

The Ref didn't lie if at that point in time he didn't know if it was a handball or not.

The part that didn't make sense to me was the fact that the game was in the 102nd minute.

Was there 12 min of extra time or something? :think:

it's a lie if you say that 100% it was NOT a handball ... he could have said he didn't see it which would be reasonable but his response was that it was definitely not ... and the dude touched it twice so - i'm gonna go with lying here ...

i believe they were playing extra time because the aggregate was 1-1 ... they would have gone into a shootout in another 15 or so mins if no one scored ...

South of Seattle · November 2009

polaris_x wrote:

South of Seattle wrote:

The Ref didn't lie if at that point in time he didn't know if it was a handball or not.

The part that didn't make sense to me was the fact that the game was in the 102nd minute.

Was there 12 min of extra time or something? :think:

it's a lie if you say that 100% it was NOT a handball ... he could have said he didn't see it which would be reasonable but his response was that it was definitely not ... and the dude touched it twice so - i'm gonna go with lying here ...

i believe they were playing extra time because the aggregate was 1-1 ... they would have gone into a shootout in another 15 or so mins if no one scored ...

OK on the extra time thing. So it was a golden goal situation then. The first leg was 1-1 then right?

philthehip · November 2009

Looking at various comments and replays of the goal and the players aproach to the ref, I think that the ref did indeed know it was a handball. He motioned very clearly that it was his chest yet the 4th official knew it was a handball, I knew it was a handball, all the players knew it was a handball. My blind grandfather knew it was a hand ball. Something does need to come from this. I stopped going to Liverpool games because of how much the game has changed. Win at all costs is ruining the game I loved so much. I had no desire to see either team through, all I wanted was to watch a good game with the outcome being fair. I feel gutted for Ireland as they deserved more. France may have gone on to win the game but if it had been fair then at least the fans would have been able to accept it. I always believed that Henry was one of the good guys in the sport, his actions and comments have brought the result into question and for that he should be ashamed. And sadly he is not!

josevolution · November 2009

It totally is robery in the 1st degree feel bad for Ireland they deserve to win that game fuck the French ...

polaris_x · November 2009

South of Seattle wrote:

OK on the extra time thing. So it was a golden goal situation then. The first leg was 1-1 then right?

yeah ... 1 - 1 on aggregate

philthehip · November 2009

josevolution wrote:

It totally is robery in the 1st degree feel bad for Ireland they deserve to win that game fuck the French ...

I have been seconding that for years

josevolution · November 2009

philthehip wrote:

josevolution wrote:

It totally is robery in the 1st degree feel bad for Ireland they deserve to win that game fuck the French ...

I have been seconding that for years

No doubt and for the asswipe to come out and admitt to it and feel no shame it shows what a pompus ass he totally is, now i will be rooting against the smelly french the rest of the way

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IGotShit76 · November 2009

josevolution wrote:

It totally is robery in the 1st degree feel bad for Ireland they deserve to win that game fuck the French ...

Calm down on the last part of the sentence. It's only a game. There's no need to insult anybody.
I feel bad that my team qualified for the world cup in such situation. I jumped all over the place when I first saw the goal (I was in an irish pub) but when they showed the replay I felt guilty.

philthehip · November 2009

IGotShit76 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

It totally is robery in the 1st degree feel bad for Ireland they deserve to win that game fuck the French ...

Calm down on the last part of the sentence. It's only a game. There's no need to insult anybody.
I feel bad that my team qualified for the world cup in such situation. I jumped all over the place when I first saw the goal (I was in an irish pub) but when they showed the replay I felt guilty.

Well maybe you might like to beat Henry

IGotShit76 · November 2009

philthehip wrote:

Well maybe you might like to beat Henry

Nope because he's not the first one to do this and not the last one. And I laugh a lot when I hear people saying they would have told the referee to cancel the goal if they were in Henry's situation. I also laugh a lot when I hear players blaming Henry knowing they simulated a fault in the past to get a penalty kick.

Cliffy6745 · November 2009

IGotShit76 wrote:

philthehip wrote:

Well maybe you might like to beat Henry

Nope because he's not the first one to do this and not the last one. And I laugh a lot when I hear people saying they would have told the referee to cancel the goal if they were in Henry's situation. I also laugh a lot when I hear players blaming Henry knowing they simulated a fault in the past to get a penalty kick.

Can't blame Henry there. It is 100% the refs fault, if Henry didn't touch it, the ball goes out. He did what he had to do.

Irish Al · November 2009

Cliffy6745 wrote:

IGotShit76 wrote:

philthehip wrote:

Well maybe you might like to beat Henry

Nope because he's not the first one to do this and not the last one. And I laugh a lot when I hear people saying they would have told the referee to cancel the goal if they were in Henry's situation. I also laugh a lot when I hear players blaming Henry knowing they simulated a fault in the past to get a penalty kick.

Can't blame Henry there. It is 100% the refs fault, if Henry didn't touch it, the ball goes out. He did what he had to do.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you. People are saying its not Henry's fault cause he got away with it...but the be all and end all is that he deliberatly cheated to gain an advantage (whether the sports governing body needs to have video refs etc does not come into it - although this should be in place by now like nearly all other sports)...Henry cheated and its disgusting from someone who most footie fans would have felt was one of the good ones...I am still angry 2 days later :evil:

petrocs · November 2009

Yeah I havent seen this but I heard enough about it. Henry is a friggin cheat and should be suspended for the World Cup. I cant believe FIFA wont replay the OT. thats bull!

Ireland Cheated from World Cup Finals

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