Kat, Sea, 10C - can there PLEASE be a limit on buying merch?

walkunafraid
walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
edited October 2009 in The Porch
I'm talking about the city-specific shirts and posters.

It makes me sick to my stomach seeing people buy 10 of the same shirt with the obvious intention to put 9 (or maybe all 10) up on eBay. It fucks over the fans and it's a big fuck you to the band who obviously does their best to prevent scalping.

I know there have been one-per-person policies on buying specific merchandise at shows in the past -- can we PLEASE have that again?

Thank you.

PS - Please bump this up if you agree with me.
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  • En La Clandestinidad
    En La Clandestinidad Telford, PA by way of Kansas City, MO and Milwaukee, WI, Phoenix, AZ and East Greenbush, NY Posts: 3,694
    Agreed.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Kat & Sea can't do nothing about this. 10club can, but they need to talk to the merchandise table workers.

    This is the same with poster's. But again, money talks. If you're by the table, with 500 bucks in your hand, and you want something, and there's no limit, it's your birthday. Spend, baby, spend!

    Probably the 2010 tour, like what Santos layed down here with the preorder's of Posters; I hope he kicks out the jam & bring the preorder on these shirts for each city things.
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    walkunafraid wrote:
    I'm talking about the city-specific shirts and posters.

    It makes me sick to my stomach seeing people buy 10 of the same shirt with the obvious intention to put 9 (or maybe all 10) up on eBay. It fucks over the fans and it's a big fuck you to the band who obviously does their best to prevent scalping.

    I know there have been one-per-person policies on buying specific merchandise at shows in the past -- can we PLEASE have that again?

    Thank you.

    PS - Please bump this up if you agree with me.


    Agreed.
  • scouser tommy
    scouser tommy Posts: 189
    totaly agree , in the line in manchester and one guy had 15 posters . drives me up the wall and makes me sick
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  • walkunafraid
    walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
    demetrios wrote:
    Kat & Sea can't do nothing about this. 10club can, but they need to talk to the merchandise table workers.

    This is the same with poster's. But again, money talks. If you're by the table, with 500 bucks in your hand, and you want something, and there's no limit, it's your birthday. Spend, baby, spend!

    Probably the 2010 tour, like what Santos layed down here with the preorder's of Posters; I hope he kicks out the jam & bring the preorder on these shirts for each city things.

    Yeah, I know Kat/Sea can't do anything about this -- but I figure they are the most likely people here to bring their concerns to the 10C. That is, if enough people care.
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  • daryl jam
    daryl jam Posts: 104
    Agreed. The Vancouver shirt i wanted is now on EBAY for over 100$$$!! Lame.
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  • oona left
    oona left Posts: 1,677
    I agree with this, for whatever its worth.

    The Cubs shirt I wanted, which I was willing to spend $35 on (which is a lot for a t-shirt), sold on eBay for well over $200.
  • warmbreath
    warmbreath Posts: 46
    I would really like it if the poster presale, and an added T-shirt presale, were open to 1 each for all Ten Club members. I was just sick that when I was missed Ten Club Tix, then I couldn't get a poster either. That way the band could make lotsa money and all Ten Clubbers could get these 2 pieces of concert must haves. Many a time due to logistics, late arrival, need to leave right after,etc., that I cant stand in line for merch., esp when posters are in a seperate line. I'm not really bitching, I think Ten Club continually improves, the above as I see it, would be a win win and would decrease the market for those 20 at a time T-shirt grabbers
  • lukinreprise
    lukinreprise Posts: 125
    People buying 10, or 15 in some cases, of the same thing with obvious intentions of flipping the items make me sick. Look up "Pearl Jam 2009" on eBay and just look at the mark up in these prices. People paying $200 for a shirt that they weren't able to get at a show THEY WENT TO because some punk bitch bought out the whole stock? How fair is this? Making some of us who pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars to go to a Pearl Jam show, and not even be able to get a shirt. Then some asshole pays for their ticket, buys 10 shirts and then literally make hundreds (and in some cases, I'm sure, thousands) by going to a Pearl Jam show and flipping the merch from said show.

    Sorry for the rant, but I feel strongly on the subject. I think the limit of 1 per person on merch should be STRICTLY enforced.
  • Jowas77
    Jowas77 Posts: 74
    Last year i went to Ed's concert ( Berkeley) where they have limits for posters- 1 per person. looks like it can be done :)
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  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Yeah - theres no reason to not limit the sports shirts. None whatsoever - if they want to make them THAT limited... fine. But at least do the right thing and make it 1 per person so more people can actually buy them!
  • Beachman44
    Beachman44 Swedesboro, NJ Posts: 176
    I posted something like this last night.
    http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=113508

    Some people were putting the blame on people paying the money on ebay, not on the people out to make a quick $.

    If they limit one per fan that will help, or if they just make more shirts.
    Not sure why they make limited quantities?
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  • breath123
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    I emailed the 10c on this, everyone should do the same.

    as far as the issue of blaming the buyers or the sellers, I am torn.

    yeah, the guys buying 20 limited edition shirts (as they did at LA2) are bottom dwelling scumbags for sure.

    however, if there is no buyer, there is no market.

    I've got a great silk screener. I have a mind to make a bunch of knockoffs and flood ebay with them for cheap.

    that's kind of like punishing the buyer, but you know what they say...

    beware.
  • lukinreprise
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    breath123 wrote:
    I emailed the 10c on this, everyone should do the same.

    as far as the issue of blaming the buyers or the sellers, I am torn.

    yeah, the guys buying 20 limited edition shirts (as they did at LA2) are bottom dwelling scumbags for sure.

    however, if there is no buyer, there is no market.

    I've got a great silk screener. I have a mind to make a bunch of knockoffs and flood ebay with them for cheap.

    that's kind of like punishing the buyer, but you know what they say...

    beware.

    You doing worse than the shirt flippers is somehow making this situation better?

    Shit, if you went to a show, and someone bought all the merch before you had a chance to even see the merch table.. you wouldn't be tempted to try to buy some? What if it were your first show? The time of your life? It's not all the buyers fault, sure, they kinda make the economy, but flipping ripped off t-shirts is way worse (to me, anyways).


    I know what I'm trying to say, just not sure if it's getting out the way I want.

    Limit 1 per person, please.
  • joe2468
    joe2468 Posts: 3,049
    LIMIT ONE PER PERSON ....



    the philly shows ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF CONTROL... i can see it now with all the hype WE are adding

    i see fights happening ... and people buying them.. walking away from the table and yelling TSHIRT FOR SALE $200
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,206
    you can try to limit the purchases, but the flippers will just find strawmen or bribe the vendors

    seriously, who in their right mind would pay $200 for a t-shirt anyway

    no buyers=no market for the sellers

    and I dont buy stuff at shows Im there to see they band and have a good time without worrying about STUFF

    if the 10c happens to sell posters or t-shirts later on, great.

    the only solution is if the 10c were to manage a table at the ticket window-but then it might take longer to get your tickets
  • joberschlake
    joberschlake Columbus, OH Posts: 1,179
    This is getting a bit out of control.

    I went to Chicago, and I missed getting a Cubs shirt. It sucked, but life went on. I still have my memories, poster, pics I took, and bootleg cd to remember the show. I went to Seattle, got (2) Seahawks shirts. I was hoping to trade one for a Cubs shirt. Didn't happen, so I got an SLC poster for it. I'm going to Philly, and I had a friend ask me to pick him up a shirt. I couldn't get a shirt for someone who is a die hard PJ, and Philly sports fan if there was a limit. Here's my thought.... If you want the merchandise that badly, then get in line early enough to get it. I had to leave the restaurant I was at in Seattle to get in line early, and made my friend that had no interest in it come with. It's the nature of the beast, this has been going on for years with the posters. People buy them, and flip them on ebay.

    10C does enough for the fan club members, and has a ton of stuff going on and to deal with. I'm sure that t-shirts are their last thought. While the idea of a (1) shirt per person limit would be ok, they still only have like (1) box of these shirts at the show, so even with a limit, there's a REALLY good chance that they'd still sell out super fast, and odds are, people are still going to try to make some money on ebay. It happens.

    If you are at the show and want the shirt that bad, leave the bar and get in line.
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  • PJ_ROCKS
    PJ_ROCKS THE 406 Posts: 6,736
    To the person who just posted ........

    I was in line, in fact third in line!!! people were shady in front of me!!!!

    i got assed out because of that crap..

    read my post in this thread!!!

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=113508

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  • walkunafraid
    walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
    Get_Right wrote:

    the only solution is if the 10c were to manage a table at the ticket window-but then it might take longer to get your tickets

    Actually, the solution would be to tell the workers at the merch tables to limit each customer to one shirt. It's not that hard. Tons of bands do it, and PJ has done it before. You're making this seem a lot harder than it really is.
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  • maverick
    maverick Posts: 1,261
    edited October 2009
    I posted this idea before and will do so again.

    This is a merch cash cow for pj if they want it to be. I would expect a concern might be excess inventory, but my idea eliminates that possibility.

    Once the tour is over and things get quiet for a couple months (dec-Jan), why not have an open time window to order each of these shirts- say 2 weeks. All 10c can order. After 2 weeks take them down from the web and place the orders based on actual orders, for all cities. Some will sell more than others, but everyone can get one, 10c doesn't get stuck with tons of extras, scalpers are out of luck, and thousands of fans are happy by paying original cost and getting what they want. 10c could make a bundle. Risk of excess inventory is controlled and minimized while profit is maximized.
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