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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329

    I originally spoke with Eddie in October 1993 over the telephone.
    If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
    you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
    was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
    I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
    Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
    of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
    he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.

    I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
    It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
    our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
    still friends, right ? "

    I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
    whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
    to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
    He was there with the band hanging out after the show.

    In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
    band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
    the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
    is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
    Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
    Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
    he wanted to see the ocean.

    It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
    suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
    or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.

    I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.

    Cool story.

    Don't know if the word friend as you used it, would be how I would define it, but as you mentioned everyone is different. More power to you, you are definitely more 'friends' with Ed than I will ever be. :|
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Wilds wrote:

    I originally spoke with Eddie in October 1993 over the telephone.
    If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
    you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
    was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
    I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
    Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
    of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
    he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.

    I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
    It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
    our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
    still friends, right ? "

    I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
    whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
    to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
    He was there with the band hanging out after the show.

    In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
    band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
    the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
    is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
    Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
    Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
    he wanted to see the ocean.

    It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
    suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
    or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.

    I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.

    Cool story.

    Don't know if the word friend as you used it, would be how I would define it, but as you mentioned everyone is different. More power to you, you are definitely more 'friends' with Ed than I will ever be. :|
    +1.. my definition of friend clearly is different than yours, but at the same time, it is definitely possible to have few intense meetings and have it feel like a friendship, and I can completely understand that.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    looks like someone was in need of a little attention, hope it made you feel good dude.
  • old people suck at the internet.

    why do people over 30 take things on the internet so personally/seriously?
    i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
  • Fans and critics blended together to a smooth paste
    that I spread on my bread and humbly eat.

    ...more shoes ...shoes from my friends....
  • you and ed sound like you're really tight. you should ask him to be best man at your wedding.
  • you and ed sound like you're really tight. you should ask him to be best man at your wedding.

    Ted Leo's the best man at my wedding.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • IamMine
    IamMine Posts: 2,743
    Now I hope I never get to meet EV. :P

    I agree with some folks on the definition of friendship... but like benjs said, its possible if it left some impact...

    I've made friends that way... and it does sound kinda creepy because EV is a famous person. He remembered this person and based on his words, EV enjoyed his company.

    I wouldn't have used that in an argument though... it's an entirely separate issue here, from my understanding - because the issue was about the opening band. As a friend, one would understand that it has nothing to do with friends outside of the bands themselves making decisions together. No brainer there?

    And for that name calling.... ouch. Luckily this wasn't done in person...I'd have done some face slapping. :P

    An apology directly to Kat would have been more appropriate, I think, in private because it was directed towards her, right?

    But I do want to meet Booooom! I'm anxious to find out if he's still with the band tonight... I LOOVVEEE his wife, Pinky!!!!

    Then nobody would find me creepy enough to say we were friends... hahahahaha.

    Oh wait... I"m "Friends" with his wife... now I'm gonna make some demands because I'm entitled to have my say in which band should be opening! :evil: We had really an interesting conversation and we "clicked" there.... yes we did! She gave me a whole bunch of picks and Matt's drumsticks!

    I want a paid trip to Hawaii this December!!! And I want either Ben Harper or Radiohead to open!!!!

    You hear me, Pinky???!!!
    JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
    EV: It's your band.
    ~Q Magazine


    "Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Dear original poster,

    I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:

    "Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
    do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
    For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
    to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
    of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
    surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."


    You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...

    Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes upsetting...

    Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...
  • Dear original poster,

    I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:

    "Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
    do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
    For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
    to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
    of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
    surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."


    You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...

    Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes upsetting...

    Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...

    God bless America !
  • you and ed sound like you're really tight. you should ask him to be best man at your wedding.
    You know, you gave me a great idea.

    I think I will,

    Thanks Pal !
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Dear original poster,

    I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:

    "Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
    do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
    For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
    to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
    of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
    surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."


    You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're
    Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...
    upsetting...

    Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...

    God bless America !

    I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
  • IamMine
    IamMine Posts: 2,743

    I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...

    Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.

    I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P

    But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year? :mrgreen:

    Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.

    My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).

    So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.
    JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
    EV: It's your band.
    ~Q Magazine


    "Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    IamMine wrote:

    Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.

    So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.

    +1
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • ozpjman
    ozpjman Posts: 872
    If you were to read back on the post which is now locked, you will see that
    the first ill will was directed at me personally and I reacted in a childish fashion.

    The 'first ill will' you speak of was hardly personal. If I remember correctly, the post said something like im glad you don't like Ted Leo and that he is opening for PJ.

    If thats how you react to something as small as the reply you got, then there are some serious issues to be addressed.

    There was NO justification for that.
    Stars walk the red carpet because they're famous - I walk the toilet paper because im the shit.
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    IamMine wrote:

    I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...

    Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.

    I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P

    But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year? :mrgreen:

    Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.

    My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).

    So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.

    Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam ;)
  • IamMine wrote:

    I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...

    Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.

    I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P

    But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year? :mrgreen:

    Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.

    My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).

    So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.

    Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam ;)

    Ahh, Amsterdam yes.
    Been there many times. I love it.
    Good times at Baba and The Globe.
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    old people suck at the internet.

    why do people over 30 take things on the internet so personally/seriously?

    Man, give us a break. They invented Atari when I was fourteen!!! ;)
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Ahh, Amsterdam yes.
    Been there many times. I love it.
    Good times at Baba and The Globe.

    I know the Melkweg and Paradiso. Or Heineken Music Hall and Arena. But Baba and The Globe are new for me. Even though I do live here a few years.
  • IamMine
    IamMine Posts: 2,743

    Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam ;)

    You're on! :mrgreen:

    See...we made something good out of bad here... ;)

    Hubby would be a great host in showing you cool places.. jesus I was born here and hubby comes here from FL and knows just about every place... I'm still surprised to find some places I've never known my entire life. :-/

    Cool beans - I'll hold you onto that... and vice versa!

    *high fives*
    JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
    EV: It's your band.
    ~Q Magazine


    "Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
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