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harpmaplesweetharpmaplesweet Posts: 226
edited August 2009 in The Porch
First, let me apologize for my rude behavior to Kat
and the rest of the fans.

I'd like to set the record straight...

I have been a fan of Pearl Jam since Day 1. I was a member
of the 10 Club when it was free. I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993 and
I was one of the first members of the 10 Club to be exact. I lost my place in line because for many
years I felt that it didn't make sense to pay to be a fan.
It was only until recently that I decided to re-enlist in the 10 Club
in order to participate in the ticket pre-sales.

I make very few posts in this forum. One of them was to vent
my frustration with the opening act. Looking back it may have been in bad taste but
I am still a fan. If you were to read back on the post which is now locked, you will see that
the first ill will was directed at me personally and I reacted in a childish fashion.

It's difficult to see the good in people when the first time you voice a complaint, someone
creeps out of the darkness and tramples over you.

If I am locked out of this site, the tribe will have spoken.
It seems as though I'm going against the grain here. Again,
with the history that I have with this band, I've felt as though I had the right.

Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world.

How many Pearl Jam fans have gone to a Ted Leo concert ?

Make no mistake, Pearl Jam is the best band in the world. I guess
that I only wish they'd see it my way.

For what it's worth, I digress.

I'm sorry to those who I offended, it's a mistake for which I wish I hadn't made.
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  • leedog0leedog0 Posts: 152
    Friends with Ed? I'll give you my 10c tickets for your backstage passes!
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    leedog0 wrote:
    Friends with Ed? I'll give you my 10c tickets for your backstage passes!

    Could you mention to Ed that I'd like to hear Bugs in LA? :D
  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,097
    Wilds wrote:
    leedog0 wrote:
    Friends with Ed? I'll give you my 10c tickets for your backstage passes!

    Could you mention to Ed that I'd like to hear Bugs in LA? :D
    That can't be your FIRST choice for a request ... can it :?:
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Wilds wrote:
    leedog0 wrote:
    Friends with Ed? I'll give you my 10c tickets for your backstage passes!

    Could you mention to Ed that I'd like to hear Bugs in LA? :D


    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
  • PRLJM1PRLJM1 Posts: 584
    If you have been a friend of Ed's since 1993, wouldn't he be able to get you better seats than the 10c?
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Wilds wrote:
    leedog0 wrote:
    Friends with Ed? I'll give you my 10c tickets for your backstage passes!

    Could you mention to Ed that I'd like to hear Bugs in LA? :D
    That can't be your FIRST choice for a request ... can it :?:


    Was a joke................, and Bugs would not be my first choice..... but would love to hear it.


    Would be killer fun. :arrow:



    P.S. Sorry for PMing you this post instead of posting it..... Saw Phish last night and still a bit whipped. :oops:
  • force-10force-10 Posts: 794
    Hey man!

    I know sometimes when you start a thread, members seem to be a little rude if they don´t agree with what you are expressing. If this would be a live forum and whe could see each other in person, I bet half the people would not even speak out and reply in a way they would fear a punch in tha face!

    I have experienced that before. (when I questioned the remixing of ten). I just ignore. But you did post back answering him and apparantly PM him. That´s the way you are. Who is to blame you. But this is actually a private forum, so you must go by the rules.

    I just hope this problem makes people understand that if we want to reply, to do it in a respectful way. Avoid offensive sarcasm or to be an annoying smart ass. I for one have a very good sense of humor, but others are not that way.

    I hope no one got in trouble for this.
    IN THE DARK, ALL CATS ARE BLACK.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,225
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    First, let me apologize for my rude behavior to Kat
    and the rest of the fans.

    I'd like to set the record straight...

    I have been a fan of Pearl Jam since Day 1. I was a member
    of the 10 Club when it was free. I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993 and
    I was one of the first members of the 10 Club to be exact. I lost my place in line because for many
    years I felt that it didn't make sense to pay to be a fan.
    It was only until recently that I decided to re-enlist in the 10 Club
    in order to participate in the ticket pre-sales.

    I make very few posts in this forum. One of them was to vent
    my frustration with the opening act. Looking back it may have been in bad taste but
    I am still a fan. If you were to read back on the post which is now locked, you will see that
    the first ill will was directed at me personally and I reacted in a childish fashion.

    It's difficult to see the good in people when the first time you voice a complaint, someone
    creeps out of the darkness and tramples over you.

    If I am locked out of this site, the tribe will have spoken.
    It seems as though I'm going against the grain here. Again,
    with the history that I have with this band, I've felt as though I had the right.

    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
    do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
    For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
    to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
    of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
    surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world.

    How many Pearl Jam fans have gone to a Ted Leo concert ?

    Make no mistake, Pearl Jam is the best band in the world. I guess
    that I only wish they'd see it my way.

    For what it's worth, I digress.

    I'm sorry to those who I offended, it's a mistake for which I wish I hadn't made.
    Forgive and forget - I hope Kat goes by this motto to.. it takes a big man to swallow his pride and apologize. Most of the people here aren't that big, and regrettably sometimes even don't find fault in their actions.
    I disagree with feeling entitled to a better opening band for $81 - frankly, no opening band would be fine with me for the same price - however, this is a discussion board, not a dictatorship, and it would be one crappy discussion board at that if we all shared one opinion on every topic. I saw, and disliked, Ted Leo twice at Madison Square Garden opening for Pearl Jam last year, and will be at the show out of respect for them in Toronto. I hope you can swallow your pride THAT much, and help make sure these poor guys aren't out there playing to a quarter-full venue, with zero energy... if no one's there, and no one's excited about them, frankly, it's our communal fault for setting these guys up for failure.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,225
    Wilds wrote:
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Wilds wrote:

    Could you mention to Ed that I'd like to hear Bugs in LA? :D
    That can't be your FIRST choice for a request ... can it :?:


    Was a joke................, and Bugs would not be my first choice..... but would love to hear it.


    Would be killer fun. :arrow:



    P.S. Sorry for PMing you this post instead of posting it..... Saw Phish last night and still a bit whipped. :oops:
    Have you seen them a bunch? Went to see them near Pittsburgh earlier this summer, was my first show - blew my freaking mind! The only thing I've seen that I'd call comparable to Pearl Jam.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    benjs wrote:
    Have you seen them a bunch? Went to see them near Pittsburgh earlier this summer, was my first show - blew my freaking mind! The only thing I've seen that I'd call comparable to Pearl Jam.

    I've seen Phish and Pearl Jam each around twenty times..... I think last night was my 26th show. (yup... just checked)

    Pearl Jam is on top for me by a lot, but Phish is so amazing live. It is amazing what those guys can do on stage, playing off each other, getting into a zen style of jam, feeling each others moods and subtle shifts.

    The 8 festival for Halloween will be crazy. The whole scene is a bit much, but when I'm there I just slide into it like a broken in pair of jeans.

    Got to get my Hacky sack groove on.
  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    it was a pretty childish remark that was made, but i commend you on publically apologizing 8-)

    as for ted leo, well i made my point in the original post, just stay outside if you are not a fan. They are no doubt a hard working band, and deserve there chance at a support slot. Pearl jam thinks so anyway ;)
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    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
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    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Yeah, if you are actually friends with Ed, then i would take this bitch to him. And then ask him for the backstage hook up.

    On your actual topic of opening bands, I understand. I have rarely ever been really happy to see an opening band. They are really there just to warm the crowd up.

    Now, having said that....I couldn't be more excited about Ben Harper openign up for PJ in Seattle....that will be the best opening act I could ask for with the exception of maybe Temple of the Dog.
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    im all about second chances and free speech!! but let it be known, i think ted leo is amazing and i thought what you wrote in that other thread was f'd up!
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ?
    Million dollar question of the year, right there.
  • DeetroitBaasketballDeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    Jeanwah wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ?
    Million dollar question of the year, right there.

    I believe one band tried to fight this in the '90s and were flamed for it. Can't seem to remember who though...
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    DeetroitBaasketball wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ?
    Million dollar question of the year, right there.

    I believe one band tried to fight this in the '90s and were flamed for it. Can't seem to remember who though...
    Whether you want to believe it or not, the band does have input on ticket prices. Sheeple!
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    edited August 2009
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993

    Sure....I'm sure he has many real-life friends who complain about locked threads, ticket prices, and opening bands on the message board
    Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on
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    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Jeanwah wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ?
    Million dollar question of the year, right there.

    It's called inflation, but dont get me wrong the feeling is mutual. :?
  • snipes824snipes824 Posts: 870
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993

    I'm sure his friends come are tenclub memebers who complain about locked threads on the message board
    it's really incredible sometimes what i read on this board.
  • electronic_dreamselectronic_dreams Posts: 70
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    First, let me apologize for my rude behavior to Kat
    and the rest of the fans.

    I'd like to set the record straight...

    I have been a fan of Pearl Jam since Day 1. I was a member
    of the 10 Club when it was free. I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993 and
    I was one of the first members of the 10 Club to be exact. I lost my place in line because for many
    years I felt that it didn't make sense to pay to be a fan.
    It was only until recently that I decided to re-enlist in the 10 Club
    in order to participate in the ticket pre-sales.

    I make very few posts in this forum. One of them was to vent
    my frustration with the opening act. Looking back it may have been in bad taste but
    I am still a fan. If you were to read back on the post which is now locked, you will see that
    the first ill will was directed at me personally and I reacted in a childish fashion.

    It's difficult to see the good in people when the first time you voice a complaint, someone
    creeps out of the darkness and tramples over you.

    If I am locked out of this site, the tribe will have spoken.
    It seems as though I'm going against the grain here. Again,
    with the history that I have with this band, I've felt as though I had the right.

    Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
    the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
    do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
    For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
    to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
    of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
    surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world.

    How many Pearl Jam fans have gone to a Ted Leo concert ?

    Make no mistake, Pearl Jam is the best band in the world. I guess
    that I only wish they'd see it my way.

    For what it's worth, I digress.

    I'm sorry to those who I offended, it's a mistake for which I wish I hadn't made.


    Dude! I'd hate to see your dissapointment paying $239USD a pair to attend a Australia Stadium show then?!?!?!?
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    snipes824 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993

    I'm sure his friends come are tenclub memebers who complain about locked threads on the message board
    it's really incredible sometimes what i read on this board.


    Are you implying that he was being sarcastic and that flew over my head? Or are you implying that he's wacky for implying that Eddie is his friend?
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    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    electronic_dreams wrote:

    Dude! I'd hate to see your dissapointment paying $239USD a pair to attend a Australia Stadium show then?!?!?!?
    very true!!!
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • snipes824snipes824 Posts: 870
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Are you implying that he was being sarcastic and that flew over my head? Or are you implying that he's wacky for implying that Eddie is his friend?
    i was agreeing with you that his assertion of friendship with eddie vedder is hilarious and clearly fabricated.

    sorry that was confusing.
  • supersonicyearssupersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    snipes824 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    harpmaplesweet wrote:
    I have been a friend of Eddie's since October of 1993

    I'm sure his friends come are tenclub memebers who complain about locked threads on the message board
    it's really incredible sometimes what i read on this board.
    It's a symptom of the universe
    "In the age of darkness
    want to be enlightened"
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    snipes824 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Are you implying that he was being sarcastic and that flew over my head? Or are you implying that he's wacky for implying that Eddie is his friend?
    i was agreeing with you that his assertion of friendship with eddie vedder is hilarious and clearly fabricated.

    sorry that was confusing.

    that's what I figured but I wanted to be sure. Yeah, this guy's lost it. "I have been friends with Eddie since October 1993" Yeah? Well why don't you go over his house and tell him that you don't like Ted Leo and that they lock threads on the message board.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • szg888szg888 Posts: 8
    I'm confused. Did you actually apologize?

    You start off your apology by "setting the record straight," which is you telling us you're were a ten club member back in the day and "friends" with Eddie Vedder.

    You then regret the words you chose to respond to someone else, but maintain that you were attacked first.

    After that little bit of remorse, you use your apology to revisit your original complaint.

    If you've been a fan since the beginning and let's assume you were at least 12 years old in 1990, you'd still be at least 30, if not 31 today. Hopefully, by the time you're 30, you have learned how to respond to someone who attacks you without resorting to slurs of any kind.

    Since you did respond inappropriately, here's how you apologize:

    "Dear , I am sorry I used a homophobic slur to attack you. I recognize that it is inappropriate in any setting to call someone what I called you. I deeply regret it and hope you can forgive me."

    Oh, and you apologize because you actually believe you were wrong, not because the board administrator might kick you off for your actions. Otherwise, it just ruins the sincerity of it all.
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    snipes824 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Are you implying that he was being sarcastic and that flew over my head? Or are you implying that he's wacky for implying that Eddie is his friend?
    i was agreeing with you that his assertion of friendship with eddie vedder is hilarious and clearly fabricated.

    sorry that was confusing.

    that's what I figured but I wanted to be sure. Yeah, this guy's lost it. "I have been friends with Eddie since October 1993" Yeah? Well why don't you go over his house and tell him that you don't like Ted Leo and that they lock threads on the message board.
    and ask him who that lady with the red dress and black shoes is!!!! :lol:
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • BanjoBanjo Posts: 272
    I'm with the OP. I was in the 10c for a long time and let my membership lapse for probably 6 years. I just re-joined because I knew I wouldn't get Spectrum tix without it. BTW, I got tix for every show I wanted to see without the 10c.

    One of the reasons I got tired of it is because I complained on the message boards about other 10c members ruining my night at the Spectrum in 2003. I got ripped apart on the boards because I couldn't see the show.

    The other point I agree with is That 10c members don't always get the best seats. At the EV show in Baltimore I was 4 rows from the back of the theatre and I was next to a pissed off 10c member. At Viriginia Beach '08 I bought my tix on TM or LiveNation and was right in the middle of the 10c members. They were actually the best seats I've ever had for a PJ show outside of GA tix.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    Banjo wrote:

    I complained on the message boards about other 10c members ruining my night at the Spectrum in 2003.

    How so?
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • BanjoBanjo Posts: 272
    At the Spectrum show some guys were jumping from row to row, "slam dancing" in seated sections and playing air guitar while standing on their seats. When I bitched about it on the boards people told me that they should be allowed to rock out to their favorite band and if I couldn't take it then I should stay home.

    I'm OK with different opinions than mine...but when I differed from the 10c masses-- a group that used to pride itself on acceptance of outside ideas--I got (verbally) beat up over it. It didn't make me lose any respect for my favorite band but it kind of took a little wind out of the 10c's sails for me.
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