You start off your apology by "setting the record straight," which is you telling us you're were a ten club member back in the day and "friends" with Eddie Vedder.
You then regret the words you chose to respond to someone else, but maintain that you were attacked first.
After that little bit of remorse, you use your apology to revisit your original complaint.
If you've been a fan since the beginning and let's assume you were at least 12 years old in 1990, you'd still be at least 30, if not 31 today. Hopefully, by the time you're 30, you have learned how to respond to someone who attacks you without resorting to slurs of any kind.
Since you did respond inappropriately, here's how you apologize:
"Dear , I am sorry I used a homophobic slur to attack you. I recognize that it is inappropriate in any setting to call someone what I called you. I deeply regret it and hope you can forgive me."
Oh, and you apologize because you actually believe you were wrong, not because the board administrator might kick you off for your actions. Otherwise, it just ruins the sincerity of it all.
he skipped step 6!
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
You start off your apology by "setting the record straight," which is you telling us you're were a ten club member back in the day and "friends" with Eddie Vedder.
You then regret the words you chose to respond to someone else, but maintain that you were attacked first.
After that little bit of remorse, you use your apology to revisit your original complaint.
If you've been a fan since the beginning and let's assume you were at least 12 years old in 1990, you'd still be at least 30, if not 31 today. Hopefully, by the time you're 30, you have learned how to respond to someone who attacks you without resorting to slurs of any kind.
Since you did respond inappropriately, here's how you apologize:
"Dear , I am sorry I used a homophobic slur to attack you. I recognize that it is inappropriate in any setting to call someone what I called you. I deeply regret it and hope you can forgive me."
Oh, and you apologize because you actually believe you were wrong, not because the board administrator might kick you off for your actions. Otherwise, it just ruins the sincerity of it all.
he skipped step 6!
I'm sorry. I'm very, very sorry. I'm so sorry that I didn't want your rather bulbous head struggling to find its way through the normal-size neck hole of my finely knit sweater.
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props for the "apology" but man it was a pretty rude and disrespectful comment to begin with. you should have counted to 10 or called Ed for advice on how to respond.
the OP hasnt responded in a while....hmmmmmmmmm
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i was agreeing with you that his assertion of friendship with eddie vedder is hilarious and clearly fabricated.
call me skeptical, as well. :roll:
If I had known then what I know now...
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You start off your apology by "setting the record straight," which is you telling us you're were a ten club member back in the day and "friends" with Eddie Vedder.
You then regret the words you chose to respond to someone else, but maintain that you were attacked first.
After that little bit of remorse, you use your apology to revisit your original complaint.
If you've been a fan since the beginning and let's assume you were at least 12 years old in 1990, you'd still be at least 30, if not 31 today. Hopefully, by the time you're 30, you have learned how to respond to someone who attacks you without resorting to slurs of any kind.
Since you did respond inappropriately, here's how you apologize:
"Dear , I am sorry I used a homophobic slur to attack you. I recognize that it is inappropriate in any setting to call someone what I called you. I deeply regret it and hope you can forgive me."
Oh, and you apologize because you actually believe you were wrong, not because the board administrator might kick you off for your actions. Otherwise, it just ruins the sincerity of it all.
That's how you might apologized my friend ... not me.
That's what makes people different.
As for being booted off this forum, I don't care.
I said what I said because it's what I felt.
You should ask Ed about the tkt price no? If I was good friends with him then I would defo ask him and see what he knows about the whole deal.
it was indeed a very rude remark, but everyone can screw up once.
Post edited by Mrs.Vedder78 on
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
As for being booted off this forum, I don't care.
I said what I said because it's what I felt.
:? see this remark just erased your apology, you are defending what you said that day... just because it was what you felt? :?
No, it doesn't take away from my apology at all.
It was suggested that I apologized because I was afraid
I may be booted off and I'm saying I really don't care if I get
booted off. I didn't apologize because of that reason.
My life will continue whether I'm allowed to make posts or not.
Are you implying that he was being sarcastic and that flew over my head? Or are you implying that he's wacky for implying that Eddie is his friend?
i was agreeing with you that his assertion of friendship with eddie vedder is hilarious and clearly fabricated.
sorry that was confusing.
that's what I figured but I wanted to be sure. Yeah, this guy's lost it. "I have been friends with Eddie since October 1993" Yeah? Well why don't you go over his house and tell him that you don't like Ted Leo and that they lock threads on the message board.
I originally spoke with Eddie in October 1993 over the telephone.
If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.
I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
still friends, right ? "
I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
He was there with the band hanging out after the show.
In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
he wanted to see the ocean.
It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.
I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.
I originally spoke with Eddie in October 1993 over the telephone.
If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.
I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
still friends, right ? "
I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
He was there with the band hanging out after the show.
In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
he wanted to see the ocean.
It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.
I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.
Cool story.
Don't know if the word friend as you used it, would be how I would define it, but as you mentioned everyone is different. More power to you, you are definitely more 'friends' with Ed than I will ever be.
I originally spoke with Eddie in October 1993 over the telephone.
If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.
I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
still friends, right ? "
I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
He was there with the band hanging out after the show.
In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
he wanted to see the ocean.
It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.
I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.
Cool story.
Don't know if the word friend as you used it, would be how I would define it, but as you mentioned everyone is different. More power to you, you are definitely more 'friends' with Ed than I will ever be.
+1.. my definition of friend clearly is different than yours, but at the same time, it is definitely possible to have few intense meetings and have it feel like a friendship, and I can completely understand that.
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EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
you and ed sound like you're really tight. you should ask him to be best man at your wedding.
Ted Leo's the best man at my wedding.
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I agree with some folks on the definition of friendship... but like benjs said, its possible if it left some impact...
I've made friends that way... and it does sound kinda creepy because EV is a famous person. He remembered this person and based on his words, EV enjoyed his company.
I wouldn't have used that in an argument though... it's an entirely separate issue here, from my understanding - because the issue was about the opening band. As a friend, one would understand that it has nothing to do with friends outside of the bands themselves making decisions together. No brainer there?
And for that name calling.... ouch. Luckily this wasn't done in person...I'd have done some face slapping. :P
An apology directly to Kat would have been more appropriate, I think, in private because it was directed towards her, right?
But I do want to meet Booooom! I'm anxious to find out if he's still with the band tonight... I LOOVVEEE his wife, Pinky!!!!
Then nobody would find me creepy enough to say we were friends... hahahahaha.
Oh wait... I"m "Friends" with his wife... now I'm gonna make some demands because I'm entitled to have my say in which band should be opening! :evil: We had really an interesting conversation and we "clicked" there.... yes we did! She gave me a whole bunch of picks and Matt's drumsticks!
I want a paid trip to Hawaii this December!!! And I want either Ben Harper or Radiohead to open!!!!
You hear me, Pinky???!!!
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:
"Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."
You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...
Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes upsetting...
Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...
I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:
"Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."
You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...
Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes upsetting...
Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...
I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:
"Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."
You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're
Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...
upsetting...
Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...
God bless America !
I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.
I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P
But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year?
Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.
My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).
So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
If you were to read back on the post which is now locked, you will see that
the first ill will was directed at me personally and I reacted in a childish fashion.
The 'first ill will' you speak of was hardly personal. If I remember correctly, the post said something like im glad you don't like Ted Leo and that he is opening for PJ.
If thats how you react to something as small as the reply you got, then there are some serious issues to be addressed.
There was NO justification for that.
Stars walk the red carpet because they're famous - I walk the toilet paper because im the shit.
I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.
I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P
But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year?
Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.
My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).
So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.
Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam
I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.
I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P
But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year?
Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.
My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).
So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.
Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam
Ahh, Amsterdam yes.
Been there many times. I love it.
Good times at Baba and The Globe.
Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam
You're on!
See...we made something good out of bad here...
Hubby would be a great host in showing you cool places.. jesus I was born here and hubby comes here from FL and knows just about every place... I'm still surprised to find some places I've never known my entire life. :-/
Cool beans - I'll hold you onto that... and vice versa!
*high fives*
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
Comments
he skipped step 6!
I'm sorry. I'm very, very sorry. I'm so sorry that I didn't want your rather bulbous head struggling to find its way through the normal-size neck hole of my finely knit sweater.
Follow the angled light.
Follow the strangest tribe.
the OP hasnt responded in a while....hmmmmmmmmm
call me skeptical, as well. :roll:
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
That's how you might apologized my friend ... not me.
That's what makes people different.
As for being booted off this forum, I don't care.
I said what I said because it's what I felt.
Take care.
it was indeed a very rude remark, but everyone can screw up once.
:? see this remark just erased your apology, you are defending what you said that day... just because it was what you felt? :?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeease.... it's killin' me...!!! someone has to figure that one out!
No, it doesn't take away from my apology at all.
It was suggested that I apologized because I was afraid
I may be booted off and I'm saying I really don't care if I get
booted off. I didn't apologize because of that reason.
My life will continue whether I'm allowed to make posts or not.
If you're able to listen to the Rockline interview from back then,
you'll see that he gave out his home telephone number because he
was buzzed and didn't realize the radio show was over. After about an hour,
I called his house and he answered. I spoke with him for about 10 minutes.
Most of the conversation was of a humorous note. He talked about the thickness
of a rhino's skin and about the Church of Latter Day Saints. At the end of our converstaion,
he said we were friends and he'd talk to me again.
I got to meet him personally for about 5 minutes on April 7, 1994.
It was right after the Rochester, NY show. I asked him if he remembered
our conversation from Rockline, 6 months earlier. He smiled and said "we're
still friends, right ? "
I met him again at the Toronto show on 5/9/06 with the
whole band. They signed my 'Binaural' album and I also got
to meet Doug Gilmour, one of the best hockey players ever.
He was there with the band hanging out after the show.
In 2005, I hung out with Wintersleep who were the opening
band for 2 shows in St. John's, Newfoundland. We got to go to
the bands hotel room at the Delta and see Mike get "screeched-in" which
is an old Newfoundland tradition where you kiss a dead cod fish.
Mike gave me a guitar pick. Jeff was stoned and playing Playstation.
Eddie was real mellow and didn't say much, except for the fact that
he wanted to see the ocean.
It's obvious that I don't have an influence on the guy to
suggest who opens for them, or how to make ticket prices affordable,
or to keep my posts from being locked on this forum.
I only go by his words, and I will always consider him a friend.
Cool story.
Don't know if the word friend as you used it, would be how I would define it, but as you mentioned everyone is different. More power to you, you are definitely more 'friends' with Ed than I will ever be.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
why do people over 30 take things on the internet so personally/seriously?
that I spread on my bread and humbly eat.
...more shoes ...shoes from my friends....
Ted Leo's the best man at my wedding.
I agree with some folks on the definition of friendship... but like benjs said, its possible if it left some impact...
I've made friends that way... and it does sound kinda creepy because EV is a famous person. He remembered this person and based on his words, EV enjoyed his company.
I wouldn't have used that in an argument though... it's an entirely separate issue here, from my understanding - because the issue was about the opening band. As a friend, one would understand that it has nothing to do with friends outside of the bands themselves making decisions together. No brainer there?
And for that name calling.... ouch. Luckily this wasn't done in person...I'd have done some face slapping. :P
An apology directly to Kat would have been more appropriate, I think, in private because it was directed towards her, right?
But I do want to meet Booooom! I'm anxious to find out if he's still with the band tonight... I LOOVVEEE his wife, Pinky!!!!
Then nobody would find me creepy enough to say we were friends... hahahahaha.
Oh wait... I"m "Friends" with his wife... now I'm gonna make some demands because I'm entitled to have my say in which band should be opening! :evil: We had really an interesting conversation and we "clicked" there.... yes we did! She gave me a whole bunch of picks and Matt's drumsticks!
I want a paid trip to Hawaii this December!!! And I want either Ben Harper or Radiohead to open!!!!
You hear me, Pinky???!!!
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
I don't want to kick when you're down, but as a European fan these statements sometimes get the best of me:
"Getting back to the original point, I know some of you deep down, have to feel
the same as I do. What ever happened to affordable ticket prices ? 10 Club tickets
do not ensure you have good seats. The same fan base show after show, are in the front row.
For an $81 ticket, as a consumer, I would expect
to see a better opening act than Ted Leo. It's obvious that one band is making a boatload
of cash and the other is just along for the ride. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm only saying that I'm
surprised and disappointed because I expected more from the best band in the world."
You know as a European fan you don't have seats, seniority and all the other stuff. You're just happy that your favorite band performs and that you were able to watch it. PJ doesn't tour Europe every year. You get your fanclub ticket, you have access 15 minutes before the rest of the audience, you have to fight for your spot. That's it. When you have to work or if the public transport doesn't work properly, well you're fucked. You're standing next to a person who bought this ticket by accident and didn't know PJ made albums after Ten... And screams for "Alive" every other song...
Don't get me wrong, I accept all this, but this entitlement to fandome, as a non-US citizen, is sometimes upsetting...
Show me any other band that does this much for their fanbase and go to this length (Christmas singles, newsletters, priority in tickets, fighting with venues etc) and you may have a point... If not this is all about privilege... And this is nothing more than whining from a privileged position...
God bless America !
I think I will,
Thanks Pal !
I expected a response like this. Well lived there for four years and after the trainwreck of Bush you rather than me. I'm glad I live in Europe. (Health insurance, financial security etc. All the things Republicans are scared of...) All I'm saying is: put things in perspective...
Honestly, I'd much rather be living there in Europe and just watching all this ridiculous complaining (the useless ones, I mean) and entitlement attitudes.
I can only imagine your frustrations because you don't get to see your favorite band as much as we do here... we really are assholes and self-absorbed here. :P
But.. I would trade places with you in a split second if you wanted to see the band here and I wanted to live the life over there....say for a year?
Really....all this entitlement attitude does not reflect the rest of the PJ fans - others who post regularly or those who do not even post.
My hubby is one, for example - I tell him what's going on the board and he says he feels he stands out like a sore thumb (and me, too, for that matter).
So...I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's just that a "few" make it so loud....making the rest of us look bad.
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
+1
The 'first ill will' you speak of was hardly personal. If I remember correctly, the post said something like im glad you don't like Ted Leo and that he is opening for PJ.
If thats how you react to something as small as the reply you got, then there are some serious issues to be addressed.
There was NO justification for that.
Well, when I'll go to the US to see PJ I may pick you up on that (and vice versa of course). We can start a global community. Sort of couch (sp?) searching PJ style ;-). Seriously, your husband and you are welcome. I can show you Amsterdam
Ahh, Amsterdam yes.
Been there many times. I love it.
Good times at Baba and The Globe.
Man, give us a break. They invented Atari when I was fourteen!!!
I know the Melkweg and Paradiso. Or Heineken Music Hall and Arena. But Baba and The Globe are new for me. Even though I do live here a few years.
You're on!
See...we made something good out of bad here...
Hubby would be a great host in showing you cool places.. jesus I was born here and hubby comes here from FL and knows just about every place... I'm still surprised to find some places I've never known my entire life. :-/
Cool beans - I'll hold you onto that... and vice versa!
*high fives*
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII