Do you believe or not believe in God?

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  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    I know in alot of movies or tv shows when something bad happens the character may scream "why god why". But ultimately, I personally, in real life, see many more people, people of faith, praise God and say how mighty and wonderous he is, when talking about good things that have happened to them. When bad things happen, God is taken out of the equation. for the most part at least. When someone you love is murdered or dies of a heart attack, I dont think the natural response is "why God did you let this happen". I think the response would be, trying to understand why it happened, God is taken out of the equation.
  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    I think that there's something going on up there/around here....I don't know what it is, nor do I think there's just one of it.
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    [/quote] But thats the paradox. People do pray. And I dont know your specific beliefs but if you believe in God, and what you just said is your opinion of why bad things occur if a God exists, I would say thats a very interesting perspective.

    Essentially, it is allowing everything good that happens to be Gods doing. If you get a good job and make a lot of money, your "blessed" but if your parents die in a horrible car accident, thats "man" that did that. Very interesting.

    I dont think its just you who believes that. Watch any sports show or awards show. A team or player that wins always thanks God. Yet you never hear a losing team say God allowed them, or made them lose.

    Interesting paradox to say the least[/quote]

    Life is what you make it. As in...you make good money because you worked hard for it. You have no one to thank but yourself. Your parents die in a car accident it's because of unfortunate occurance. (Could be anything)

    I think athletes are thanking God (or whatever they believe in) in the gift of life...for the chance to win.

    This would be a better place if people were not so concern in what others believe in and more concerned in how we treat each other.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Dissidentman wrote:
    fm162899 wrote:
    Dios????? Claro que no...... pero en algo hay q creer..... cada uno tiene su dios. pero como creer n un ser divino cuando ocurren tantas desgracias???? lo peor de todo es que hay una organizacion que se lucra y aprovecha d todo esto...... LA PUTA IGLESIA.....


    What he said.... I think...
    God? Clear that ...... but in something there is no q to believe ..... each has its God. but like believing n a divine being when so many misfortunes happen? the worse thing of everything is than there is an organization who profits and takes advantage of d all this ...... THE PUTA CHURCH…(he said this.its spanish)

    La puta iglesia = Fuck the church
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Yes
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • bernmodi
    bernmodi Posts: 631
    I don't believe in a God who guides me, protects me, punishes me, saves me, has plans for me or whatever (I like the idea of everything happening accidentally, not by predestination). Still, I believe in a God who is just "there".

    "We don't need God to explain the world, we need God to bear it".
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  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    No. And ever since I read Shelley's "The Necessity of Atheism" when I was 15, I've felt better about rejecting all the fairy tale nonsense concerning a 'Creative Deity'.

    In a more humorous light, please see:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Danimal wrote:
    dunkman wrote:
    Dead Man Walking wrote:
    Do I believe in god? no.
    Am I afraid of him? you bet.


    you cant be afraid of something that you dont believe in.... thats almost as silly as saying you believe angels came down from heaven and mated with Cain and Abel... oh wait... bad example as thats what Biblists claim did actually happen.

    ;)

    I don't believe in Micheal Myers, but I'm afraid of him.


    funny i grant thee... but it makes no sense to be scared of something that you dont think even exists. :?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    quote] I don't believe in Micheal Myers, but I'm afraid of him.[/quote]


    funny i grant thee... but it makes no sense to be scared of something that you dont think even exists. :?[/quote]

    No it does not make sense you are right. But I still love horror movies cause they scare me.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Please post your views on religion, if you personally are religious, and your views on why their is or isnt a God?

    My own story: My mom's side of the family are typical Italian Catholics. They were raised catholic, attended church and went to Catholic schools.

    I never or hardly ever went to church as a kid, and if we did it was just for Easter or Christmas.

    My beliefs tend to fall in line with Buddhist or Taoist ideas. Or Native American ideas The idea that God is everywhere and in everything, a blade of grass, or flowers, or trees and so on. But I dont think I would pin myself as one specific religion. I dont attend any church though.

    I have major problems with religion in terms of how it is used to justify horrendous things like war, murder, sexism and homophobia.

    Lately I have been tending towards the Modest Mouse school of ideology. Just questioning, and thinking, how I feel its kind of insane for people to waste their lives on earth wondering and worrying about getting into heaven or hell, two places that may or may not exist, all the while ignoring the only thing that is for sure, the now, the present.

    As a Marxist I also think religion is harmful in some sense. Beyond the wars and violence committed in its name, I think you have people, coming together, banding together in a common cause, raising their hands up. They feel lost. They are down and out. And they are praying to this individual who may or may not exist. More powerful results would come, I think, by banding together and forming a political organization, or activist group.

    I also wonder, if God existed, why would he allow all the death, destruction and murder to occur? Why the wars? The rape? Assaults? Racism? What type of God would allow that to occur?

    Eckhart Tolle, author of the Power of Now, suggested that, the reason why wars, death and violence occur, is that it forces us to choose, forces us to look at ourselves, to become who we really want to be, to wake up. I think thats an interesting idea.

    So whats your view on it all?

    I believe in God. If people followed Gods word we wouldnt have war, murders ect. Death is nothing, we have to die to get to heaven or hell. People freak out about death but its ok because we must die to live forever. Man makes his own choice in life. Life is about following God, not doing what you want. He wants faithful worshipers and he gives us the choice to follow him or burn in hell. Man creates wars, man rapes, man causes racism. If man followed God it would be a great world to live in. But people these days people try to take God out of our lives. People are to busy watching tv or reading books that mean nothing in this life and looking in the mirror. Helping your fellow man and following God is what life is about.
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    Please post your views on religion, if you personally are religious, and your views on why their is or isnt a God?

    My own story: My mom's side of the family are typical Italian Catholics. They were raised catholic, attended church and went to Catholic schools.

    I never or hardly ever went to church as a kid, and if we did it was just for Easter or Christmas.

    My beliefs tend to fall in line with Buddhist or Taoist ideas. Or Native American ideas The idea that God is everywhere and in everything, a blade of grass, or flowers, or trees and so on. But I dont think I would pin myself as one specific religion. I dont attend any church though.

    I have major problems with religion in terms of how it is used to justify horrendous things like war, murder, sexism and homophobia.

    Lately I have been tending towards the Modest Mouse school of ideology. Just questioning, and thinking, how I feel its kind of insane for people to waste their lives on earth wondering and worrying about getting into heaven or hell, two places that may or may not exist, all the while ignoring the only thing that is for sure, the now, the present.

    As a Marxist I also think religion is harmful in some sense. Beyond the wars and violence committed in its name, I think you have people, coming together, banding together in a common cause, raising their hands up. They feel lost. They are down and out. And they are praying to this individual who may or may not exist. More powerful results would come, I think, by banding together and forming a political organization, or activist group.

    I also wonder, if God existed, why would he allow all the death, destruction and murder to occur? Why the wars? The rape? Assaults? Racism? What type of God would allow that to occur?

    Eckhart Tolle, author of the Power of Now, suggested that, the reason why wars, death and violence occur, is that it forces us to choose, forces us to look at ourselves, to become who we really want to be, to wake up. I think thats an interesting idea.

    So whats your view on it all?

    I believe in God. If people followed Gods word we wouldnt have war, murders ect. Death is nothing, we have to die to get to heaven or hell. People freak out about death but its ok because we must die to live forever. Man makes his own choice in life. Life is about following God, not doing what you want. He wants faithful worshipers and he gives us the choice to follow him or burn in hell. Man creates wars, man rapes, man causes racism. If man followed God it would be a great world to live in. But people these days people try to take God out of our lives. People are to busy watching tv or reading books that mean nothing in this life and looking in the mirror. Helping your fellow man and following God is what life is about.

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  • pearljgirl2010
    pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    musicismylife78 wrote:

    My beliefs tend to fall in line with Buddhist or Taoist ideas. Or Native American ideas The idea that God is everywhere and in everything, a blade of grass, or flowers, or trees and so on. But I dont think I would pin myself as one specific religion. I dont attend any church though.

    This is where I stand...the more I read on Buddhism, the more I feel that it makes sense...the gods (yes, "gods" plural and with a lower case g) are everywhere, and in everything
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  • mrvedderson
    mrvedderson Posts: 784
    im still, fergenst it. but i do have a gripe with some reasoning pro-god people give. They maintain that someone had to create everything, but they want to shy away from the answer of what created god. it seems there are always double standards on how these questions can be answered coming from the religious.
  • Cinnamon Girl
    Cinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    I believe in science.

    God? Not so much.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    It's so much easier to say 'I'm agnostic' than it is to answer that question....
  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    science is just the breakdown of gods work. science and god go hand in hand. god is the greatest scientist.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    science is just the breakdown of gods work. science and god go hand in hand. god is the greatest scientist.
    Isn't god all-knowing? science is full of shit 9 times out of 10. we always THINK we have things right...until the next theory comes along.
  • Cinnamon Girl
    Cinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    I wish I believed in God. Having faith is a beautiful thing. I'm way too much of a skeptic. I think if you feel like you're trying to believe in something, you're probably fooling yourself.

    I respect those who believe.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    I believe in God. If people followed Gods word we wouldnt have war, murders ect. Death is nothing, we have to die to get to heaven or hell. People freak out about death but its ok because we must die to live forever. Man makes his own choice in life. Life is about following God, not doing what you want. He wants faithful worshipers and he gives us the choice to follow him or burn in hell. Man creates wars, man rapes, man causes racism. If man followed God it would be a great world to live in. But people these days people try to take God out of our lives. People are to busy watching tv or reading books that mean nothing in this life and looking in the mirror. Helping your fellow man and following God is what life is about.

    .....but he loves you.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Cinnamon Girl wrote:
    I wish I believed in God. Having faith is a beautiful thing. I'm way too much of a skeptic. I think if you feel like you're trying to believe in something, you're probably fooling yourself.

    I respect those who believe.
    me too, until I'm told I'll burn for eternity if I believe othewise.
    I'm with you....WAY too skeptical. I dont BELIEVE in...well....anything, really...let alone something so intangible...there were a lot of people that believed the earth was flat...

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