Do you believe or not believe in God?

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    jamainiac wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    I'm more into the Ishmael / Story of B take on man... isn't it more like man is made to conquor the world... and that we were to be God's perfect end result, that is.. God made the world for man and man was made to rule it (so it says in the book) - i like this take, because it brilliantly shows off religious people's arrogance AND ignorance imo...

    :lol:
    that's gord muthafukin' downie! ;)

    i guess you gotta be canadian...

    I'm with you sister...

    on the B...

    and the mofo downie... ;)

    and the beavers...

    and the maple leaf :D
    haha, i hope you're not fresh out of syrup, i'll bring a truckload down in september if you're runnin low!
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    haffajappa wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    I'm more into the Ishmael / Story of B take on man... isn't it more like man is made to conquor the world... and that we were to be God's perfect end result, that is.. God made the world for man and man was made to rule it (so it says in the book) - i like this take, because it brilliantly shows off religious people's arrogance AND ignorance imo...

    nope i dont think so, though you do.

    God came to being as an explanation for the unexplainable. thats my take.
    no i dont.
    i think you're missing my position on this. to clarify:
    haffajappa wrote:

    but don't a lot of religious people TRY to explain this? By saying it's God's doing?
    God is the reason for everything, that is the explanation I thought.

    what i meant to say is, i like Daniel Quinn's take on what some people percieve as a world made for man and man being perfection...

    aah gotcha. when you said "im more into the...." i took that as your belief.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    catefrances wrote:
    aah gotcha. when you said "im more into the...." i took that as your belief.
    yeah i don't think i really brought up the point properly

    but to continue, i've always felt that "God" is the ultimate cop out, because you can blame anything and everything on Him, and just say you can't explain it, because its God's doing....

    and in the end, you can do what you want, and find god after, and repent, and its okay...
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    haffajappa wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    aah gotcha. when you said "im more into the...." i took that as your belief.
    yeah i don't think i really brought up the point properly

    but to continue, i've always felt that "God" is the ultimate cop out, because you can blame anything and everything on Him, and just say you can't explain it, because its God's doing....

    and in the end, you can do what you want, and find god after, and repent, and its okay...


    and yet you can lead a righteous life with no belief in God and still youre going to hell. hmmmm
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  • DinghyDog
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    DinghyDog wrote:

    i don't have to care for my soul's sake because you are well enough informed to make your own choices, as is everyone else int he western world. i get the idea you have a black and white opinion on it all, and that you think I do too, but i assure you its all a big grey area.
    this is kind of the thing that bugs me about missionary trips... the western world is well enough informed (in most parts, anyways) about the choices of religion, but then you start going into 3rd world countries and preaching Christianity and it kind of bugs me. why not do the good deeds without stuffing bibles in their face?
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  • DinghyDog
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    DinghyDog wrote:
    dunkman wrote:
    DinghyDog wrote:

    whatever makes you happy dude. i don't really care.

    i sincerely hope you do care, for your soul's sake. ;)

    i don't have to care for my soul's sake because you are well enough informed to make your own choices, as is everyone else int he western world. i get the idea you have a black and white opinion on it all, and that you think I do too, but i assure you its all a big grey area.

    you cannot assure me of anything... i dont see any religion in any variant form of monochrome.... i see it plainly and simply as non-existent... well god anyway... clearly religion exists but why i will never fathom.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    george carlin

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  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Yes, I do.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    DeLukin wrote:
    Yes, I do.

    which one?
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,783
    No i don't .....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    Why do people care in what I believe in?
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    arq wrote:
    DeLukin wrote:
    Yes, I do.
    which one?
    Sorry. I DO believe in God.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    DeLukin wrote:
    arq wrote:
    DeLukin wrote:
    Yes, I do.
    which one?
    Sorry. I DO believe in God.

    Each religion has it version of how god should be, do you follow any religion or you just believe in an universal architect? There's no judgement or malice in my question.
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    believe and pray
    but not in a church
  • theoceansmademe
    theoceansmademe Posts: 1,132
    No I don't.

    Recently read a great book on the subject of religion and god.

    Losing My Religion: How I Lost My Faith Reporting on Religion in America-and Found Unexpected Peace by William Lobell.

    To summarize Mr. Lobell was an editor for a small newspaper in OC. He became a born again Christian and soon had his dream job as the religion reporter for the LA Times.

    After covering the Catholic Church and their efforts to cover up the raping of young boys he lost his faith.

    I heard part of an interview he did on NPR which lead me to read this book.

    Check your local library it's worth your time.

    Basically their is too much fucked up shit going on in this world for there to be a caring God that christian religions preach.

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