UFC 85: London, England: Matt Hughes Vs. Thiago Alves / The Ultimate Fighter 7
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mookie blaylock 10 wrote:after watching the countdown show and hearing the story about hughes rubbing the loss to spencer fisher in thiago's face, i'm really hoping he catches hughes in a triangle...just for poetic justice. he did the same thing to georges st-pierre, making fun of him for not knowing the armbar defense, only to lose by...?...armbar!
to GSP. 
the guy hasn't lost a lot of matches, but they're all but one by submission, so i guess it's insecurities that make him feel the need to belittle others with his comments.
in any case, i think thiago wins this one on the feet. he has developed great takedown defense that will surprise a lot of people i think. i can see him coming out and feeling out the first round, maybe getting taken down, and coming on strong in the second. i'm not even going to compare alves' striking skills with hughes', as hughes has virtually none. if thiago gets confident enough to land those leg kicks and let his stiking go, he will pick hughes apart easily. (i think i recall you saying you train in muay thai and bjj, so we have to go with the muay thai guy, right?
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post-fight interview from hughes.."i thought it was a knee, i didn't know it was a punch." D
there, mamasan, i have played out the whole fight for you, so you're not missing anything! sorry you will be missing this one. sounds like a nice weekend, though.
i'd like to go with alves because i don't like hughes but i really think he's going to win. It may sound crazy but i see hughes taking thiago down and either TKO'ing him or doing in well enough in all 3 rounds to win by decision.
I hope i'm wrong, maybe after i watch the countdown i'll change my mind "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/060 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:had to get the picks in! the show is getting close! go little pitbull!!!
UFC 85, June 7, 2008 - O2 Arena, London, England - PPV
Main Card:
Matt Hughes Vs. Thiago Alves - alves by tko
Michael Bisping Vs. Jason Day - day by tko
Marcus Davis Vs. Mike Swick -davis by ko
Brandon Vera Vs. Fabricio Werdum - vera by tko
Nate Marquardt Vs. Thales Leites - marquardt by decision
Pre-lims:
Martin Kampmann Vs. Jorge Rivera rivera by tko
Thiago Tavares Vs. Matt Wiman - tavares by submission
Roan Carneiro Vs. Kevin Burns - carneiro by submission
Jason Lambert Vs. Luiz Arthur Cane - cane by ko
Paul Taylor Vs. Jess Liaudin - taylor by tko
Eddie Sanchez Vs. Antoni Hardonk - hardonk by tko
wow mookie we are pretty different on this one... I'm not confident about my picks at all though so i have a feeling you will do well lol
this is what i have as of right now
Winner: Matt Hughes Unanimous Decision
Winner: Marcus Davis Unanimous Decision
Winner: Nate Marquardt Unanimous Decision
Winner: Brandon Vera Technical Knock Out
Winner: Martin Kampmann Submission (Other)
Winner: Thiago Tavares Unanimous Decision
Winner: Roan Carneiro Submission (Choke)
Winner: Eddie Sanchez Technical Knock Out
Winner: Michael Bisping Technical Knock Out
Winner: Jason Lambert Unanimous Decision
Winner: Paul Taylor Unanimous Decision"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/060 -
civ_eng_girl wrote:i like this plan.
but i'd be happy to wait 3 more weeks, so we can catch some other shows together!!
hint, hint.
which shows are in 3 weeks?"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/060 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:after watching the countdown show and hearing the story about hughes rubbing the loss to spencer fisher in thiago's face, i'm really hoping he catches hughes in a triangle...just for poetic justice. he did the same thing to georges st-pierre, making fun of him for not knowing the armbar defense, only to lose by...?...armbar! to GSP. the guy hasn't lost a lot of matches, but they're all but one by submission, so i guess it's insecurities that make him feel the need to belittle others with his comments.
in any case, i think thiago wins this one on the feet. he has developed great takedown defense that will surprise a lot of people i think. i can see him coming out and feeling out the first round, maybe getting taken down, and coming on strong in the second. i'm not even going to compare alves' striking skills with hughes', as hughes has virtually none. if thiago gets confident enough to land those leg kicks and let his stiking go, he will pick hughes apart easily. (i think i recall you saying you train in muay thai and bjj, so we have to go with the muay thai guy, right?)
post-fight interview from hughes.."i thought it was a knee, i didn't know it was a punch." D
there, mamasan, i have played out the whole fight for you, so you're not missing anything! sorry you will be missing this one. sounds like a nice weekend, though.
I think you are spot on in your analysis of how this fight will go. Definitely have to get behind the Muay Thai fighter. We hopefully we are right and Alves picks Hughes apart and knocks that ego of his down a few knotches. I will at least get to see the fight on replay wghen I get home Sunday night. I can't wait."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
leafs4ever wrote:i'd like to go with alves because i don't like hughes but i really think he's going to win. It may sound crazy but i see hughes taking thiago down and either TKO'ing him or doing in well enough in all 3 rounds to win by decision.
I hope i'm wrong, maybe after i watch the countdown i'll change my mind
just wait until you hear the way thiago says, "i didn't forget" when they're talking about hughes' making fun of him for losing to spencer. hughes doesn't remember...thiago does. :mad:
good luck on the picks, leafs. again, this is a tough one. you pulled through the last one with flying colours though. top twenty baby! 0 -
keeping you updated on hotlanta, releash...:)
UFC 88, September 6, 2008 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Chuck Liddell Vs. TBA (possibly Mauircio Rua)
Tim Boetsch Vs. James Lee0 -
couldn't watch the weigh-ins here in north america, but early reports indicate that thiago alves came in three pounds over at 174 lbs. sounds like he wasn't given time to cut the additional weight and the match will be at a catch weight, likely 175 lbs.
i'm not sure if they have changed the rules in england or not, or if they thought three lbs. was too much for alves to cut in an hour, but hughes also came in over weight for his championship match with carlos newton in england and was given the time to cut and make weight...
guess we'll have to wait for an explanation.0 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:keeping you updated on hotlanta, releash...:)
UFC 88, September 6, 2008 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Chuck Liddell Vs. TBA (possibly Mauircio Rua)
Tim Boetsch Vs. James Lee
Thanks for the update Mookie. I missed the TUF episode because the cable at the hospital doesn't get Spike, so I've been avoiding the thread a little so as not to read any comments.
Gotta get my picks in tonight!!0 -
ReleasH wrote:Thanks for the update Mookie. I missed the TUF episode because the cable at the hospital doesn't get Spike, so I've been avoiding the thread a little so as not to read any comments.
Gotta get my picks in tonight!!
i won't spoil the episode but i'm guessing you can guess who had one of the funnier lines of the night..."we're going to write that strategy down...'whoop his ass' " (in high pitched voice...:D)
darn no spike at hospital! darn comcast! 0 -
i'm speculating that they didn't give alves any time to cut the additional weight, which is strange because when matt hughes did the same thing in his first fight in england (although it was his first defense and a title was on the line...) he was given time to cut the weight that he missed. perplexing.
UFC 85 Weigh-In Results
By Thomas Gerbasi
LONDON, June 6, 2008
Former UFC welterweight champion Matt Hughes calls it his comeback fight, and even though he will be doing it at a catchweight of 174 pounds after his UFC 85 opponent, Thiago Alves, didn’t make weight today at the O2 Arena, he believes a win over ‘The Pitbull’ Saturday night will be the first step on his road back to the 170-pound crown.
“This is a comeback fight,” said Hughes, a two-time welter champion who weighed in at 170 pounds Friday. “I’m very happy to fight an up and comer like Thiago. If I beat him he’s someone I can put on my resume for down the road.”
“Tomorrow night is gonna be a war,” said Alves, 174. “You’re gonna see the best ‘Pitbull’ ever and I’m gonna knock him out.”
UFC 85 – Official Weigh-In Results
Main Card:
Matt Hughes (170) Vs. Thiago Alves (174)
Michael Bisping (184) Vs. Jason Day (184)
Marcus Davis (170) Vs. Mike Swick (170)
Nate Marquardt (185) Vs. Thales Leites (185)
Brandon Vera (228) Vs. Fabricio Werdum (247)
Pre-lims:
Martin Kampmann (186) Vs. Jorge Rivera (185)
Thiago Tavares (154.5) Vs. Matt Wiman (155)
Roan Carneiro (171) Vs. Kevin Burns (170)
Luiz Cane (204) Vs. Jason Lambert (205)
Paul Taylor (169) Vs. Jess Liaudin (169)
Antoni Hardonk (247) Vs. Eddie Sanchez (244)0 -
oh yeah, seems like a few of us will be away for this one :(, but is it cool to discuss it live in the afternoon, or is everyone waiting until the evening PPV? just curious...:)0
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Guess I will wait until night to find out!!0
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mookie blaylock 10 wrote:oh yeah, seems like a few of us will be away for this one :(, but is it cool to discuss it live in the afternoon, or is everyone witing until the evening PPV? just curious...:)
i'm going to try to be around for the afternoon (i won't post any spoilers unless others are here aswell... I'm moving my grandparents in the am and then have a jack and jill at night so i know i won't be around then."I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/060 -
leafs4ever wrote:wow mookie we are pretty different on this one... I'm not confident about my picks at all though so i have a feeling you will do well lol
this is what i have as of right now
Winner: Matt Hughes Unanimous Decision
Winner: Marcus Davis Unanimous Decision
Winner: Nate Marquardt Unanimous Decision
Winner: Brandon Vera Technical Knock Out
Winner: Martin Kampmann Submission (Other)
Winner: Thiago Tavares Unanimous Decision
Winner: Roan Carneiro Submission (Choke)
Winner: Eddie Sanchez Technical Knock Out
Winner: Michael Bisping Technical Knock Out
Winner: Jason Lambert Unanimous Decision
Winner: Paul Taylor Unanimous Decision
holy cow, leafs! you've got a lot of decisions there!! if you're right on all those, you'll be impossible to beat in league! but if you're wrong....
here's mine:
Matt Hughes v. Thiago Alves
Winner: Thiago Alves Submission (Choke)
Michael Bisping v. Jason Day
Winner: Jason Day Split Decision
Luiz Cane v. Jason Lambert
Winner: Luiz Cane Technical Knock Out
Paul Taylor v. Jess Liaudin
Winner: Paul Taylor Unanimous Decision
Marcus Davis v. Mike Swick
Winner: Marcus Davis Knock Out
Nate Marquardt v. Thales Leites
Winner: Thales Leites Submission (Other)
Fabricio Werdum v. Brandon Vera
Winner: Brandon Vera Technical Knock Out
Jorge Rivera v. Martin Kampmann
Winner: Martin Kampmann Technical Knock Out
Matt Wiman v. Thiago Tavares
Winner: Thiago Tavares Unanimous Decision
Roan Carneiro v. Kevin Burns
Winner: Roan Carneiro Submission (Arm Lock)
Antoni Hardonk v. Eddie Sanchez
Winner: Eddie Sanchez Technical Knock Out
i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to watch the event today.
i have yet another non-ufc loving friend over for the weekend, who is in town from Calgary, so i might have to give this one up for her....
best friends... they can be so demanding! :rolleyes: ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~0 -
Got my picks in just under the wire. I'm not very confident in these picks, particularly the undercard. I went with my gut again, so we'll see if it works out better for me this time. I have to beat Shamrock's Twin one this one, otherwise I can't claim his performance last time was beginner's luck. It would be nice to win one of these things at some point too.
Matt Hughes v. Thiago Alves
Winner: Thiago Alves Technical Knock Out 2 3
Michael Bisping v. Jason Day
Winner: Jason Day Technical Knock Out 3 2
Luiz Cane v. Jason Lambert
Winner: Jason Lambert Technical Knock Out 2 4
Paul Taylor v. Jess Liaudin
Winner: Paul Taylor Unanimous Decision 3 5
Marcus Davis v. Mike Swick
Winner: Marcus Davis Technical Knock Out 1 4
Nate Marquardt v. Thales Leites
Winner: Thales Leites Submission (Arm Lock) 2 2
Fabricio Werdum v. Brandon Vera
Winner: Brandon Vera Knock Out 1 3
Jorge Rivera v. Martin Kampmann
Winner: Martin Kampmann Majority Decision 3 5
Matt Wiman v. Thiago Tavares
Winner: Thiago Tavares Submission (Choke) 2 1
Roan Carneiro v. Kevin Burns
Winner: Kevin Burns Unanimous Decision 3 5
Antoni Hardonk v. Eddie Sanchez
Winner: Eddie Sanchez Technical Knock Out 1 40 -
Oh, leafs ... your wishes for a slow on call day for me have materialized. There is literally NO ONE here!0
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ReleasH wrote:Oh, leafs ... your wishes for a slow on call day for me have materialized. There is literally NO ONE here!
woohoo! a well deserved break, i'm sure.
ps. i saw a guy in a pick-up truck the other day, who looked just like Gray! ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~0 -
good luck on the picks, everyone. i shall post no bills...i mean post no spoilers!
seems like evryone's day is working out nicely. i hope thiago can "work things out" nicely.
alves!!!0 -
leafs4ever wrote:i'm going to try to be around for the afternoon (i won't post any spoilers unless others are here aswell... I'm moving my grandparents in the am and then have a jack and jill at night so i know i won't be around then.
am i stunned? (rhetorical question ...or should i know what a jack and jill is? 0 -
civ_eng_girl wrote:holy cow, leafs! you've got a lot of decisions there!! if you're right on all those, you'll be impossible to beat in league! but if you're wrong.... : p
here's mine:
Matt Hughes v. Thiago Alves
Winner: Thiago Alves Submission (Choke)
Michael Bisping v. Jason Day
Winner: Jason Day Split Decision
Luiz Cane v. Jason Lambert
Winner: Luiz Cane Technical Knock Out
Paul Taylor v. Jess Liaudin
Winner: Paul Taylor Unanimous Decision
Marcus Davis v. Mike Swick
Winner: Marcus Davis Knock Out
Nate Marquardt v. Thales Leites
Winner: Thales Leites Submission (Other)
Fabricio Werdum v. Brandon Vera
Winner: Brandon Vera Technical Knock Out
Jorge Rivera v. Martin Kampmann
Winner: Martin Kampmann Technical Knock Out
Matt Wiman v. Thiago Tavares
Winner: Thiago Tavares Unanimous Decision
Roan Carneiro v. Kevin Burns
Winner: Roan Carneiro Submission (Arm Lock)
Antoni Hardonk v. Eddie Sanchez
Winner: Eddie Sanchez Technical Knock Out
i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to watch the event today.
i have yet another non-ufc loving friend over for the weekend, who is in town from Calgary, so i might have to give this one up for her....
best friends... they can be so demanding! :rolleyes: : D
have fun today, ceg! psst...nice picks. 0
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