MLB Trade Deadline: Deals & Rumors

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  • IwasBit10
    IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The White Sox are a World Series contender?

    When you're in 1st place in your division on the the trading deadline, I'd say you're a contender. Not a favorite, but certainly a contender.
    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share, his key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere.
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,234
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The White Sox are a World Series contender?
    first place in the AL Central right now, so yeah, I'd say they are in contention to make the World Series....
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Sounds like the Blue jays are interested in bay, thinking they can make a run if Boston trades Manny. What an incredible OF that would be if/when Wells comes back. Rios/Bay/Wells
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Manny has agreed to go to Florida. Only thing holding up a deal is haggling over prospects
  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    intodeep wrote:
    didn't the jays gm come out a couple days ago and say he is off the market?

    I thought i read that.

    he did indeed say that, but JP's credibility is zero, so who knows.

    the rumours are that the Jays are trying to buy out the opt-out clause for an addition 2-3 million per year on top of his annual salary in year 4 and 5 of his deal (2009 & 2010) because of the recent issues with the starting rotation, namely McGowan having to have rotator cuff surgery and Litsch being sent down to work on some of his pitches and get his confidence back
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  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Sounds like the Blue jays are interested in bay, thinking they can make a run if Boston trades Manny. What an incredible OF that would be if/when Wells comes back. Rios/Bay/Wells

    I would like the Jays to try to get either Bay, Dunn or Manny

    This team definitly needs a home run threat.

    Did you know that the Jays were the last major leauge team to have one of their hitters hit double-digit figures (10) in home runs, done at the end of July.

    That is truly awful
    1998 ~ Barrie
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    2005 ~ London, Toronto
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    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    smarchee wrote:
    I would like the Jays to try to get either Bay, Dunn or Manny

    This team definitly needs a home run threat.

    Did you know that the Jays were the last major leauge team to have one of their hitters hit double-digit figures (10) in home runs, done at the end of July.

    That is truly awful

    yeah, what happened to Alex Rios. I expected a monster year for him, and he's got 8 HR's
  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    Man the Sox are getting trashed in this Manny deal. Jason Bay's numbers with RISP are atrocious. Plus, the dude has never been in a pressure situation in his entire career. Now he's being tossed to the lions in Boston as a replacement for Manny. Choke!
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    yeah, what happened to Alex Rios. I expected a monster year for him, and he's got 8 HR's

    well, I hate to buy into this theory, but Rios has not had the power that he exhibited before he went into the 2007 All-Star HR Derby since he did that. He did look tired at the end of the last season but this year is a complete mystery

    Too his credit, and maybe to Cito Gaston's credit, he has hit for more power since Gaston has been the manager, and one thing Gaston has done is keep him in the same batting spot in the order (#3) hitter, so maybe that has something to do with his better numbers post-Gibbons firing. Though mostly it has been doubles, which may be a good sign.

    One thing that drove myself and most Jays fans nuts is Gibbons strange desire to always have a different line-up, it was loony sometimes, and this may have fucked with Rios' mind and approach at the plate, depending on what he thought Gibbons wanted out of him based on the different place he put him in the line-up

    Nonetheless, I feel that this was an abberation and he might be heading down a more consistent path with Cito.
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    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    smarchee wrote:
    well, I hate to buy into this theory, but Rios has not had the power that he exhibited before he went into the 2007 All-Star HR Derby since he did that. He did look tired at the end of the last season but this year is a complete mystery

    Too his credit, and maybe to Cito Gaston's credit, he has hit for more power since Gaston has been the manager, and one thing Gaston has done is keep him in the same batting spot in the order (#3) hitter, so maybe that has something to do with his better numbers post-Gibbons firing. Though mostly it has been doubles, which may be a good sign.

    One thing that drove myself and most Jays fans nuts is Gibbons strange desire to always have a different line-up, it was loony sometimes, and this may have fucked with Rios' mind and approach at the plate, depending on what he thought Gibbons wanted out of him based on the different place he put him in the line-up

    Nonetheless, I feel that this was an abberation and he might be heading down a more consistent path with Cito.

    interesting. i didn't know he was in the derby. hamilton will be interesting to watch the rest of this year. he hasn't showed any signs of an impact yet, and it didn't affect Ryan Howard a few years ago, though it did affect (at least on paper) david Wright a few years ago. he went into the derby with 20 HR's, and finished with 26
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,234
    2 hours to go....wonder which teams will try to make something happen in crunch time


    as a fan of a team who is all but done, I can't wait until September 1 to expand the rosters to 40...I want to see what some of the kids in AA and AAA can do....
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    who do you root for? you can always hope to unload some dead wood in exchange for some prospects
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    latest word is that The Manny deal is dead. This could just be the haggling over prospects. From jayson Stark at espn:

    Yet another official with one of these three teams says the Manny-Bay deal is dead. In the aftermath, the teams involved seem unsure of what happened. The Pirates are blaming the Marlins. The Marlins are blaming the Pirates. And the Red Sox aren't too happy with either of them.
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,234
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    who do you root for? you can always hope to unload some dead wood in exchange for some prospects
    Braves....we already made our deal....
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    markymark550 wrote:
    Braves....we already made our deal....

    what's the feeling down there? I think they would have better off with the 2 draft picks
  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    interesting. i didn't know he was in the derby. hamilton will be interesting to watch the rest of this year. he hasn't showed any signs of an impact yet, and it didn't affect Ryan Howard a few years ago, though it did affect (at least on paper) david Wright a few years ago. he went into the derby with 20 HR's, and finished with 26

    Yeah, he made it to the final round in San Fransisco against Vlad Guerrero. It was pretty sweet to see, but then the power has seemed to slip away, like it was early in his career. But I try not to buy into his theory because I don't believe it.
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,234
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    what's the feeling down there? I think they would have better off with the 2 draft picks
    mixed review really

    I think it all depends on the perception of Kotchman. I know he's not a star, but I think he's a solid 1B and solid hitter. Definitely better than what we had before Tex, plus he's got some years left on the contract and is expected to continue to improve. I think there's upside with him. I'm not expecting anything from the minor league pitcher involved in the trade. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he doesn't ever make it to the bigs. I wish we could have gotten a better pitching prospect.

    Personally, I'm of the opinion that the only thing more iffy than a prospect or player with potential is a draft pick. You know Kotchman will be in the bigs, but there's no guarantee for any draft picks.

    Some rumors I've been hearing from other fans are that relief pitchers Will Ohman and Mike Gonzalez are on the block. It would be nice if we could get some good prospects for those two if they are dealt.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    markymark550 wrote:
    mixed review really

    I think it all depends on the perception of Kotchman. I know he's not a star, but I think he's a solid 1B and solid hitter. Definitely better than what we had before Tex, plus he's got some years left on the contract and is expected to continue to improve. I think there's upside with him. I'm not expecting anything from the minor league pitcher involved in the trade. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he doesn't ever make it to the bigs. I wish we could have gotten a better pitching prospect.

    Personally, I'm of the opinion that the only thing more iffy than a prospect or player with potential is a draft pick. You know Kotchman will be in the bigs, but there's no guarantee for any draft picks.

    Some rumors I've been hearing from other fans are that relief pitchers Will Ohman and Mike Gonzalez are on the block. It would be nice if we could get some good prospects for those two if they are dealt.

    both lefty right? There's always demand for lefties. Gonzalez could bring back something solid, if teams are confident he'll stay healthy
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,234
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    both lefty right? There's always demand for lefties. Gonzalez could bring back something solid, if teams are confident he'll stay healthy
    yep, both are lefty

    I think that with as good as Ohman has been this year, he'd bring back the better offers.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    MLB.com says Rays are getting Bay.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.

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