MLB Trade Deadline: Deals & Rumors

Fighting Hellfish

2 rumors floating around today, could be nothing to them, but there still fun to discuss

Red Sox, Braves, and a mystery team working on a deal that sends Teixeira to the Sox and Manny to the Braves who then flip Manny to the mystery team for prospects

Mets send Beltran to the Sox for Manny and Ellsbury

I doubt either are likely. The Braves could probably get more for teixeira than for Manny, unless the Sox are send ing a prospect or 2 with Manny who the Braves would keep.

Drop The Leash 10

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

2 rumors floating around today, could be nothing to them, but there still fun to discuss

Red Sox, Braves, and a mystery team working on a deal that sends Teixeira to the Sox and Manny to the Braves who then flip Manny to the mystery team for prospects

Mets send Beltran to the Sox for Manny and Ellsbury

I doubt either are likely. The Braves could probably get more for teixeira than for Manny, unless the Sox are send ing a prospect or 2 with Manny who the Braves would keep.

i doubt manny or ellsbury goes anywhere. i doubt that manny will not be with us next april. the sox are looking for bullpen.

if teixeira goes anywhere, its arizona.

CROJAM95

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

i doubt manny or ellsbury goes anywhere. i doubt that manny will not be with us next april. the sox are looking for bullpen.

if teixeira goes anywhere, its arizona.

I think Teixeira ends up with the Angels

As for Manny Boston wiill not pick up his option next year, he'll sign with another team for less money

The Yanks will probably end up with Washburn


EDIT: I dont get why some in Boston cant stand Manny, I mean you've won 2 world series titles, you'll miss him if he goes and Ortiz will be less effective, as Manny provides tons of protection for him

SVRDhand13

I would absolutely love Manny on the Braves, but it won't happen. I'm guessing he stays on the team until the end of the season.

TrixieCat

CROJAM95 wrote:

I think Teixeira ends up with the Angels

As for Manny Boston wiill not pick up his option next year, he'll sign with another team for less money

The Yanks will probably end up with Washburn


EDIT: I dont get why some in Boston cant stand Manny, I mean you've won 2 world series titles, you'll miss him if he goes and Ortiz will be less effective, as Manny provides tons of protection for him

I agree and I am not a Sox fan. But I love Manny.

orig_long red

Manny's not going anywhere ... but if he does, it'll be the Dodgers in a three team trade with the Braves. Sox will get Texeira, Braves will get a host of minor leaguers.

CROJAM95

TrixieCat wrote:

I agree and I am not a Sox fan. But I love Manny.

Neither am I...his numbers speak for themselves, and as a Yankee fan who has watched him kill us over the years I wouldn't shed a tear

ledvedderman

I'm hoping there are some legs of the rumors of the Cardinals and Blue Jays being close to a trade for AJ Burnett...

Drop The Leash 10

ledvedderman wrote:

I'm hoping there are some legs of the rumors of the Cardinals and Blue Jays being close to a trade for AJ Burnett...

how many different teams has burntett played for???

smarchee

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

how many different teams has burntett played for???

1. Florida
2. Toronto

smarchee

ledvedderman wrote:

I'm hoping there are some legs of the rumors of the Cardinals and Blue Jays being close to a trade for AJ Burnett...

can you please take Eckstein back too....

at this point 1 month ago, I would have been thrilled to think AJ was going to be traded, but now, I am happy if he stays, though our douchebag of a GM gave him this opt out clause in the contract after the 3rd year of the 5 year deal, so pretty much it's assumed he will use that clause and be a FA this off-season, but with McGowan having shoulder surgery, our starting rotation will look rather weak going into 2009 if Burnett is traded or leaves via FA than it started 2008 looking

Plus, I think most Jays fans, including I, would rather have the 2 sandwich picks in the 2009 draft from Burnett leaving via FA than if traded, unless we get some highly strong players in return

markymark550

long red wrote:

Manny's not going anywhere ... but if he does, it'll be the Dodgers in a three team trade with the Braves. Sox will get Texeira, Braves will get a host of minor leaguers.

hopefully the Braves get good, young minor league prospects in any deal involving Tex

other than Tex, Jurrjens, McCann, and Escobar the Braves roster is:
a) old
b) injured
c) ineffective
d) any combination (or all) of the above


since they won't be able to re-sign him, they might as well get the best deal they can

rearviewmiror

The Sox are talking deal with LA, so we'll see. Manny may be gone this time.

my2hands

Mark Texeria has been traded to the Angels for Casey Kotchman and a prospect

SVRDhand13

my2hands wrote:

Mark Texeria has been traded to the Angels for Casey Kotchman and a prospect

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3510042

Wow Braves you suck. You trade the best guy on the market on get nothing great in return? How pathetic.

Fighting Hellfish

what a great pickup for the Angels. I hope this Marek guy is a real prospect, or the Braves would have been better with the 2 draft picks they would get if thye kept him and he signed elsewhere

NY PJ1

SVRDhand13 wrote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3510042

Wow Braves you suck. You trade the best guy on the market on get nothing great in return? How pathetic.

wow talk about the team to beat in the al

SVRDhand13

NY PJ1 wrote:

wow talk about the team to beat in the al

Yea I would not be surprised if this team wins the World Series. Actually, I would be surprised if this team doesn't make it to the AL Championship.

NY PJ1

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Yea I would not be surprised if this team wins the World Series. Actually, I would be surprised if this team doesn't make it to the AL Championship.

hey they did win a ws so they are capable

but its funny regardless

Poncier

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

what a great pickup for the Angels. I hope this Marek guy is a real prospect, or the Braves would have been better with the 2 draft picks they would get if thye kept him and he signed elsewhere

A 2004 40th round pick, pitching in the pen in AA...basically a scrub.
Braves would have been better off with the picks methinks.

CROJAM95

Poncier wrote:

A 2004 40th round pick, pitching in the pen in AA...basically a scrub.
Braves would have been better off with the picks methinks.

Look at what the Braves gave up last year just to get this guy, makes this trade seem that much worse

rearviewmiror

The Braves are known for making stupid trades. I'll never get over getting rid of Justice.

CROJAM95

rearviewmiror wrote:

The Braves are known for making stupid trades. I'll never get over getting rid of Justice.

I never got that trade at all to the Indians...but he ended up in pinstripes and helped us win a World Series

He had a sweet swing

BTW I also never got how he drove Halle Berry away...talk about being a moron

Yellow Ledbelly

I don't see any way the Sox can move Manny because they simply won't be able to find a deal that would give them a comparable return. I would hate to see him go, but I also don't see any way they will pick up his option and pay him 20 mil next year. Like Manny said he is tired of them and they are tired of him. Its time to sever the relationship.

With or without him though, I dont see the Sox making a run at the title this year....I wouldn't even be surprised if they don't make the playoffs at all. Not that I think Texiera put the Angels over the top at all, but I think they are te team to look out for in October. The Sox just ain't got it in '08

CROJAM95

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

I don't see any way the Sox can move Manny because they simply won't be able to find a deal that would give them a comparable return. I would hate to see him go, but I also don't see any way they will pick up his option and pay him 20 mil next year. Like Manny said he is tired of them and they are tired of him. Its time to sever the relationship.

With or without him though, I dont see the Sox making a run at the title this year....I wouldn't even be surprised if they don't make the playoffs at all. Not that I think Texiera put the Angels over the top at all, but I think they are te team to look out for in October. The Sox just ain't got it in '08

If they think they can win it all(which they should they won last year) they should keep him

Its tough to get a good return for him cause of the situation($20 mil options, his antics, possibly not wanting to play when he's really not hurt, his AGE)

Pacomc79

Poncier wrote:

A 2004 40th round pick, pitching in the pen in AA...basically a scrub.
Braves would have been better off with the picks methinks.

with tracy yes with kotchman no. Tex is the king of empty RBI's and considering the people they've left on base he should have well over 100 rbi's already. If you need him to get a hit good luck unless of course it's July - September, he really dosen't play before that.

When you consider they weren't going to pay Tex and their answer at 1st base is Scott Thorman. It's as good as they could have received now thought they should have traded him either before the season or a month ago when they knew this was over. Now the Braves have no clean up hitter whatsoever. They could put McCann there but he can't catch every freaking game.

Basically the braves are back to 1988 or 89. They have virtually 0 lineup with one or two good players and a hell of a lot of scrubs and busts occupying space. At least kotchman is cheap young and really not all that much of a drop off in average than Tex.

Chipper Jones was well over 400 for a long part of this year. his OBP was incredible he also had Escobar in front of him quite a bit as well. Yeah 78 RBI's but he's probably left almost 100 out there on base. I think he's hitting like 237 on the road.

Yellow Ledbelly

CROJAM95 wrote:

If they think they can win it all(which they should they won last year) they should keep him

Its tough to get a good return for him cause of the situation($20 mil options, his antics, possibly not wanting to play when he's really not hurt, his AGE)

They can't and won't win it this year with or without him is my opinion. My bet is they will end up having to let him walk away. In the end, neither side will be satisfied because Manny won't get nearly what he believes himself to be worth because of his age and the Sox will be left without one of the greatest hitters ever....not to mention not being able to put him and Papi back-to-back in the lineup anymore. Of course, the Sox may be satisfied just to be rid of the headaches he causes

markymark550

CROJAM95 wrote:

I never got that trade at all to the Indians...but he ended up in pinstripes and helped us win a World Series

He had a sweet swing

BTW I also never got how he drove Halle Berry away...talk about being a moron

I hated to see Justice get traded away. But basically, it wound up being partly about the Braves not thinking Justice would regain his form after that bad shoulder injury. Part of it was also to help clear room for Andruw Jones and free up some money for the future.

intodeep

Pacomc79 wrote:

with tracy yes with kotchman no. Tex is the king of empty RBI's and considering the people they've left on base he should have well over 100 rbi's already. If you need him to get a hit good luck unless of course it's July - September, he really dosen't play before that.

When you consider they weren't going to pay Tex and their answer at 1st base is Scott Thorman. It's as good as they could have received now thought they should have traded him either before the season or a month ago when they knew this was over. Now the Braves have no clean up hitter whatsoever. They could put McCann there but he can't catch every freaking game.

Basically the braves are back to 1988 or 89. They have virtually 0 lineup with one or two good players and a hell of a lot of scrubs and busts occupying space. At least kotchman is cheap young and really not all that much of a drop off in average than Tex.

Chipper Jones was well over 400 for a long part of this year. his OBP was incredible he also had Escobar in front of him quite a bit as well. Yeah 78 RBI's but he's probably left almost 100 out there on base. I think he's hitting like 237 on the road.

Nice post.

First and foremost i'm not a braves fan so i'm not being a homer by defending them.

The trade the braves did was teh best they could do. NO one was giving up a top pitching prospect for Tex. they did a good job in getting a cheap 1bman who is MLB ready.

Tex is a Scott Boras client and he has been saying it all year he is testing the free agent market. you don't give up top talent for a two month rental. no team was going to do that.

the braves did what they had to do. It sucks for them but they were not going to sign tex to the 20 mil or actually the 23mil that he is going to be asking for a year. That is 20% of their payroll allowed by the spirit group. They can't sink that kind of money in one guy. So they know they are not resigning him so get what you can. Cotchman is a good funemental ball player who will play well with the braves and be a stop gap while they are rebuilding. Because make no mistake they are rebuilding.

The real sad news will come today if Timmy is headed for Tommy John surgery. If that is the case the braves are in an even worse situation.

oh and by the way the BEST site on the net for up to the minute trade news is:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

One of my fav baseball blogs.

rearviewmiror

markymark550 wrote:

I hated to see Justice get traded away. But basically, it wound up being partly about the Braves not thinking Justice would regain his form after that bad shoulder injury. Part of it was also to help clear room for Andruw Jones and free up some money for the future.

Except that Andruw was blocked by Lofton. Jones was a centerfielder, and Justice played left and right.

That was just a dumb trade. I used to watch all of those guys play in Richmond. justice was my favorite of all time. Until he went to the Yankees. I'll never forgive him, traded or not.

markymark550

rearviewmiror wrote:

Except that Andruw was blocked by Lofton. Jones was a centerfielder, and Justice played left and right.

That was just a dumb trade. I used to watch all of those guys play in Richmond. justice was my favorite of all time. Until he went to the Yankees. I'll never forgive him, traded or not.

In his first full year, Jones platooned in right field with Michael Tucker. Marquis Grissom for Kenny Lofton was a part of the Justice trade and that was because Grissom had just signed a long-term contract whereas Lofton would become a free agent after one year with the Braves. Lofton played center, while Andruw learned how to play in the big leagues. After that one year, the Braves gave center to Andruw.