Bob Ross

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  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    jamie uk wrote:
    I have to say, there's a lot of evidence of pre-concieved opinions being diplayed here.
    Who said Bob's work doesn't make you think? Ask yourself why, then ask yourself why you percieve that some of this so called 'intellectually superior' work does make you think.
    Is it maybe that you've been programmed to react that way? Perish the thought. But just suppose it's true, just suppose some poncey, fancy talkin intellectual art teacher just put all those thoughts in your heads...in heads in general, it's not impossible. I mean just why does a pile of white blocks on the floor make you think more than Bobs landscapes? Then just think, 'well does it really make me think, or have I been pre-conditioned to think it makes me think, that I should look deeper, or pretend to at least, maybe I am afraid not to think because then I'll see stupid? Hmmmm

    Like I said two days ago, Emporers new clothes ;)


    that is IT...marry me!! we shall not have babies together!!!

    seriously!! I stood up in my Art Appreciation class (didn't grad from art school either!! hahahahaa) and said "the emperor has no clothes!!!" because of this painting that was a green dot in the lower left corner...it was supposed to invoke the feeling of helplessness in the face of "the machinery of man" and it was a crooked green dot in the corner of a white (wasted) canvas!!!


    you are right...I should not have said that Mr. Ross' art did not "make you think" or wasn't intended to make you think...I was falling into my own pretentious trap!!! Sweet Jamie (UK) you have saved me!!!

    however, the piles of white blocks (alluded to) FORCE you the viewer, to come up with a series of "what/why" in order to quantify their existence in a gallery...and well, Bob tells you that his trees are happy. ;)
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    jamie uk wrote:
    I have to say, there's a lot of evidence of pre-concieved opinions being diplayed here.
    Who said Bob's work doesn't make you think? Ask yourself why, then ask yourself why you percieve that some of this so called 'intellectually superior' work does make you think.
    Is it maybe that you've been programmed to react that way? Perish the thought. But just suppose it's true, just suppose some poncey, fancy talkin intellectual art teacher just put all those thoughts in your heads...in heads in general, it's not impossible. I mean just why does a pile of white blocks on the floor make you think more than Bobs landscapes? Then just think, 'well does it really make me think, or have I been pre-conditioned to think it makes me think, that I should look deeper, or pretend to at least, maybe I am afraid not to think because then I'll see stupid? Hmmmm

    Like I said two days ago, Emporers new clothes ;)

    Well said.

    Could you not argue all of this the other way though? There are a lot of people who argue that Modern art = shit. It's a very popular view. Have you let them convince you of it before you've given it much thought for yourself?
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  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    jamie uk wrote:
    I have to say, there's a lot of evidence of pre-concieved opinions being diplayed here.
    Who said Bob's work doesn't make you think? Ask yourself why, then ask yourself why you percieve that some of this so called 'intellectually superior' work does make you think.
    Is it maybe that you've been programmed to react that way? Perish the thought. But just suppose it's true, just suppose some poncey, fancy talkin intellectual art teacher just put all those thoughts in your heads...in heads in general, it's not impossible. I mean just why does a pile of white blocks on the floor make you think more than Bobs landscapes? Then just think, 'well does it really make me think, or have I been pre-conditioned to think it makes me think, that I should look deeper, or pretend to at least, maybe I am afraid not to think because then I'll see stupid? Hmmmm

    Like I said two days ago, Emporers new clothes ;)



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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Well said.

    Could you not argue all of this the other way though? There are a lot of people who argue that Modern art = shit. It's a very popular view. Have you let them convince you of it before you've given it much thought for yourself?

    I think there's a difference between appreciating what you might call "classicist" art, and "modern" art. Even if you don't think Bob Ross is a brilliant artistic mind, you can at least appreciate that he can paint a fairly good-looking landscape. Whereas, while you might get something out of some Rothko blobs, to someone else, they're just blobs.
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think there's a difference between appreciating what you might call "classicist" art, and "modern" art. Even if you don't think Bob Ross is a brilliant artistic mind, you can at least appreciate that he can paint a fairly good-looking landscape. Whereas, while you might get something out of some Rothko blobs, to someone else, they're just blobs.

    Truth. :) It's all subjective. But although I can't say a Ross original is a blob, I can call it cookie-cutter American tourist gift shop art. Generic and boring, and it does nothing for me except for entertain me on tele.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Well said.

    Could you not argue all of this the other way though? There are a lot of people who argue that Modern art = shit. It's a very popular view. Have you let them convince you of it before you've given it much thought for yourself?

    I just don't, for the very life of me, see how some of the modern/conceptual art is taken seriously, sorry. The theory that it's shit is popular, because it's pretty much true, well to most people anyway. It seems there's an elitest eliment that preach the superiority of modern/conceptual art, where as, and I'm a simple minded person Mark, in my opinion a piece of art should just speak for itself...there's no need of the clap trap. But then, most of this stuff would be nothing without that very element would it...like I said, it's not so much about art, more about the art of bullshitting.
    Right, pint? ;)
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    jamie uk wrote:
    I just don't, for the very life of me, see how some of the modern/conceptual art is taken seriously, sorry. The theory that it's shit is popular, because it's pretty much true, well to most people anyway. It seems there's an elitest eliment that preach the superiority of modern/conceptual art, where as, and I'm a simple minded person Mark, in my opinion a piece of art should just speak for itself...there's no need of the clap trap. But then, most of this stuff would be nothing without that very element would it...like I said, it's not so much about art, more about the art of bullshitting.
    Right, pint? ;)

    Fuck yeah. We'll get you drunk and then show you a Rothko original. ;)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Truth. :) It's all subjective. But although I can't say a Ross original is a blob, I can call it cookie-cutter American tourist gift shop art. Generic and boring, and it does nothing for me except for entertain me on tele.

    Fair enough - but the point I was making is that you can see that Bob Ross can paint a convincing landscape. Call it boring, but it took a good deal of artistic talent to do it. But with a Rothko, if you don't buy into the "conceptual, beating-heart of mankind in a washbasin of woe" horseshit, there's not really much artistic ability on show.
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  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    I like this Rhinoceros Surprise person.
    I like your cartoons. I just looked at them.
    1920's newspaper...:p
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  • Dissidentman
    Dissidentman Posts: 15,378
    chiquimonkey wrote:
    you guys just need to get a room already. at the motel 6 :p

    Crap, I went to lunch before I read this. Too late to reply with something witty...
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Fuck yeah. We'll get you drunk and then show you a Rothko original. ;)

    :o Don't bother, I just looked at this....

    http://www.postershop.com/Rothko-Mark/Rothko-Mark-Yellow-And-Gold-7800021.html

    I mean, seriously, I do that stuff on peoples wall when they're deciding what colour they want.
    I'll not carry on any longer, I can't believe you reckon this is better than Bobs landscapes.

    It's like saying an elephant shit is more impressive than Mt Everest....good grief !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll still take the beer though :D
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    TrixieCat wrote:
    I like this Rhinoceros Surprise person.
    I like your cartoons. I just looked at them.
    1920's newspaper...:p

    I thank-a you kindly.:)
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  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    this
    http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/dogs%20playing%20poker22.jpg


    took more skill x100000, than this

    http://www.postershop.com/Rothko-Mark/Rothko-Mark-Yellow-And-Gold-7800021.html



    True story. Get over it.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    and now we are talking about skill as a painter!!

    I love this Message pit!!


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  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    jamie uk wrote:
    this
    http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/dogs%20playing%20poker22.jpg


    took more skill x100000, than this

    http://www.postershop.com/Rothko-Mark/Rothko-Mark-Yellow-And-Gold-7800021.html



    True story. Get over it.
    At least show the original inspiration:

    http://unpopulartruths.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/dogs-playing-poker.jpg
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • Dissidentman
    Dissidentman Posts: 15,378
    TrixieCat wrote:
    At least show the original inspiration:

    http://unpopulartruths.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/dogs-playing-poker.jpg

    Even those dogs playing poker have a Bob Ross painting hanging in the background.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    dissidentman wrote:
    Even those dogs playing poker have a Bob Ross painting hanging in the background.
    Clever.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    at least he wasnt pretentious like some of the artschool deuches around here.

    plus he could really pull of the fro.


    thumbs way up for bob ross.
  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    MrSmith wrote:
    at least he wasnt pretentious like some of the artschool deuches around here.

    plus he could really pull of the fro.


    thumbs way up for bob ross.
    :(

    douche. :D
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  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    TrixieCat wrote:
    At least show the original inspiration:

    http://unpopulartruths.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/dogs-playing-poker.jpg


    Hey, do you reckon they got Rothko in to do the wallpaper? Imagine the scene at the art studio...

    Artist to apprentice
    "man my arm aches from doing all these dogs, and you've done a nice job of that clock. Oh, I can't be arsed with the background.....send that baldy fella in, the one who answers the phones, let that useless get do it, he's only good at doing backgrounds"

    Apprentice to baldy chap on front desk
    "Hey Mark, fancy doing some little blue splodges for us?"
    :D:D:D:D:p
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....

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