decent painter does not equal charlatan though. charlatan implies he faked it or something. and it looked like he was painting, pretty sure
Yes... I'm afraid hyperbole is something I am cursed with.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Bob Ross was a fantastic teacher, and he did the world wonders to introduce a whole bunch of people to painting... OK? But he wasn't a brilliant painter. He was a decent painter.
What I don't get is why his simple landscapes make him nothing more than a decent painter, but Rothko's two-splodges-of-colour make him a genius.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Ok good... I thought we were growing apart. I feel better now.
Do you want a hug? Cus I can give you a hug.. if you want.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Ok, so Bob Ross' work looks like a million other works out there. I am pretty sure they are not hanging masterpieces in the lobby of a motel. Nor are they selling them at those "art shows" that are held at the Holiday Inn.
Perhaps he was their influence?
Oh and I consider Rembrandt and Caravaggio to be 2 of the world's most exquisite painters, but their work looks alot like alot of other stuff, wouldn't you say? Just saying..
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
What I don't get is why his simple landscapes make him nothing more than a decent painter, but Rothko's two-splodges-of-colour make him a genius.
I've never called Rothko a genius. I'm not sure who I'd call a genius.. very few people. But Rothko, at the time he was painting, wasn't generic American tourist gift shop art.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Bob Ross was a great teacher!! he showed millions of people that painting landscapes is a relaxing and easy HOBBY...he wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking that his paintings were Monet's!!
he was like, "dude...use a fuckin' spatula to make tree trunks straight...use a white motherfucker to cover your mistakes...always add a sweet fuckin' road that leads around a bend...and make thefuckin' bitch assed trees happy - give em' some sick ass greenish fuzz for leaves...shit yeah, son!" (okay maybe he didn't talk like that...but you get my point.)
dude, they are happy little trees...not pretentious, blurry color blocks.
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
dude, they are happy little trees...not pretentious, blurry color blocks.
the key words in that, "not pretentious". yeah his work wasn't tortured or had pig heads and cow carcasses with babies screaming in the corner...it was just beautiful landscapes (god forbid!)
Ok, so Bob Ross' work looks like a million other works out there. I am pretty sure they are not hanging masterpieces in the lobby of a motel. Nor are they selling them at those "art shows" that are held at the Holiday Inn.
Perhaps he was their influence?
Oh and I consider Rembrandt and Caravaggio to be 2 of the world's most exquisite painters, but their work looks alot like alot of other stuff, wouldn't you say? Just saying..
Yes, I would. I'm not a fan of that kind of art. But are you comparing the skill of Bob Ross with Rembrandt? I hope not.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Bob Ross was a great teacher!! he showed millions of people that painting landscapes is a relaxing and easy HOBBY...he wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking that his paintings were Monet's!!
he was like, "dude...use a fuckin' spatula to make tree trunks straight...use a white motherfucker to cover your mistakes...always add a sweet fuckin' road that leads around a bend...and make thefuckin' bitch assed trees happy - give em' some sick ass greenish fuzz for leaves...shit yeah, son!" (okay maybe he didn't talk like that...but you get my point.)
dude, they are happy little trees...not pretentious, blurry color blocks.
If you'll scroll up, I've acknowledged Bob Ross was a great teacher. He taught people how to paint deceptively simple landscapes.
And very funny post btw.. A Bob Ross parody would be awesome.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Yes, I would. I'm not a fan of that kind of art. But are you comparing the skill of Bob Ross with Rembrandt? I hope not.
Oh, now I see where you are coming from...you are really not reading what I am saying.
Where do you read that I am comparing?
I clearly seperated both points with a few enters.
Walk through the Rijksmuseum, the masterpieces, and sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between different artists.
And No, I am not even comparing Rembrandt to Caravaggio.
I am talking about influencing other artists.
Bob Ross has clearly influenced an entire generation of amateur artists.
And you did say you 'fucking love Rothko" and he is "awesome".
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
If you'll scroll up, I've acknowledged Bob Ross was a great teacher. He taught people how to paint deceptively simple landscapes.
And very funny post btw.. A Bob Ross parody would be awesome.
are you tellin' me to scroll? :mad: ( )
yeah - he was never trying to pass his stuff of as anything more that 70's kitsch -stuff that is suitable hanging in gramma's house
("wow, gramma did you paint that yourself?!?! GRAMMA?? CAN YOU HEAR ME??? GRAMMMMA!!!! oh...sleeping...um DID - YOU - PAINT - THAT - YOUR...aww fuck it, NICE PAINTING GRAMMA!!" )
I think he was entertaining (as an art-school drop out) and instructive...besides, I loved his calming voice and the fact that, like Mr. Rogers, he was talking to you from a box...letting you know it's all okay...it's okay...shuuush shuuuush shuuuuuush ssshhhhhhhh shhhhhhhhh there you go, mija..it's okaaaaay...
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
Oh, now I see where you are coming from...you are really not reading what I am saying.
Where do you read that I am comparing?
I clearly seperated both points with a few enters.
Walk through the Rijksmuseum, the masterpieces, and sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between different artists.
And No, I am not even comparing Rembrandt to Caravaggio.
I am talking about influencing other artists.
Bob Ross has clearly influenced an entire generation of amateur artists.
And you did say you 'fucking love Rothko" and he is "awesome".
You were saying that Bob Ross' stuff is generic in the same way that Rembrandt and Caravaggio's stuff is, yes?
Yes.. I do love Rothko. At the time he was painting, his style was revolutionary.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I've never called Rothko a genius. I'm not sure who I'd call a genius.. very few people. But Rothko, at the time he was painting, wasn't generic American tourist gift shop art.
So I'm given to hyperbole too.:p I don't think ragging on his work because it's not startlingly original is fair, though - I'd say the ability to paint a great-looking landscape is far more laudable than the ability to be "different" by throwing some random, coloured blobs on a canvas.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
yeah - he was never trying to pass his stuff of as anything more that 70's kitsch -stuff that is suitable hanging in gramma's house
("wow, gramma did you paint that yourself?!?! GRAMMA?? CAN YOU HEAR ME??? GRAMMMMA!!!! oh...sleeping...um DID - YOU - PAINT - THAT - YOUR...aww fuck it, NICE PAINTING GRAMMA!!" )
I think he was entertaining (as an art-school drop out) and instructive...besides, I loved his calming voice and the fact that, like Mr. Rogers, he was talking to you from a box...letting you know it's all okay...it's okay...shuuush shuuuush shuuuuuush ssshhhhhhhh shhhhhhhhh there you go, mija..it's okaaaaay...
THANKYOU!!! 70's kitsch to hang up in Grandma's house in the outskirts of Disney World! I've been waiting for someone to say it... gimme a kiss!
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Ok, so Bob Ross' work looks like a million other works out there. I am pretty sure they are not hanging masterpieces in the lobby of a motel. Nor are they selling them at those "art shows" that are held at the Holiday Inn.
Perhaps he was their influence?
Oh and I consider Rembrandt and Caravaggio to be 2 of the world's most exquisite painters, but their work looks alot like alot of other stuff, wouldn't you say? Just saying..
I just felt I had to remind you what you said here. How are you *not* comparing these painters? You are saying that to call Bob Ross' style generic is not valid because Rembrandt and Caravaggio aren't so original either. Their stuff looks like other stuff.
If you're *not* saying that, please feel free to tell me what you are saying by the above post...
And pour me a Jim Beam?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I just felt I had to remind you what you said here. How are you *not* comparing these painters? You are saying that to call Bob Ross' style generic is not valid because Rembrandt and Caravaggio aren't so original either Their stuff looks like other stuff.
If you're *not* saying that, please feel free to tell me what you are saying by the above post...
And pour me a Jim Beam?
Are you referring to Rem and Car (:p) ?
I said that they are 2 of the world's most amazing painters. And yet their stuff looks like many other artist's works. From the same period. I was not trying to compare the two. If that is how you read it, I apologize. Who the fuck would ever do that??? Compare them, I mean.
Dad drinks Jim Beam...ick.
And it isn't even noon here yet. I am a lady, you know.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross was specifically made for artistic idiots like myself who couldn't tell the difference between a freakin' fan brush and a round brush and who could only draw stick figures. His voice is so soothing because if I tried to paint what he painted I would certainly throw my canvass out the window.
THANKYOU!!! 70's kitsch to hang up in Grandma's house in the outskirts of Disney World! I've been waiting for someone to say it... gimme a kiss!
MUAH!
now do me !!!!
(I meant my turn for an e-kiss, Mr. Dirty pants!!!)
see, I don't think there is anything wrong with that description of Mr. Ross' work...it's not like he was harumphing about not being taken "seriously" as an artist...his work didn't convey anything beyond...um, I dunno...a forest with a copse of trees...maybe a barn?? who knows let's see if we need a pond...maybe some smoke coming out of a chimney...that isn't a barn anymore...see? now our family needs a pond to go fishing?? see? just like that.
his work wasn't intended to make you think or react or feel...it was intended to show gramma that SHE too can paint without using a paint by numbers kit.
nothing wrong with that...
he was a fine landscape artist, and that made him a great public access art teacher.
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
(I meant my turn for an e-kiss, Mr. Dirty pants!!!)
see, I don't think there is anything wrong with that description of Mr. Ross' work...it's not like he was harumphing about not being taken "seriously" as an artist...his work didn't convey anything beyond...um, I dunno...a forest with a copse of trees...maybe a barn?? who knows let's see if we need a pond...maybe some smoke coming out of a chimney...that isn't a barn anymore...see? now our family needs a pond to go fishing?? see? just like that.
his work wasn't intended to make you think or react or feel...it was intended to show gramma that SHE too can paint without using a paint by numbers kit.
nothing wrong with that...
he was a fine landscape artist, and that made him a great public access art teacher.
Yep.
And by the way, I did you.. did you feel it?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
oh - here is an example of Arthur Gilbert (Californian landscape painter - his stuff is actually in museums... http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/MOR20060620_3160/48.jpg this one is called Big Sur...I personally think he is lacking happy trees...)
basically, I personally find landscapes a little boring...and that includes even those painted by capital A Artists ...
now Harmless...apologize to Mr. Ross, and I shall give you 'nother big juicy e-kiss!! (dammit, they dont have a batting my eyes at you smilie!!!)
yeah, didn't think it would work
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
I have to say, there's a lot of evidence of pre-concieved opinions being diplayed here.
Who said Bob's work doesn't make you think? Ask yourself why, then ask yourself why you percieve that some of this so called 'intellectually superior' work does make you think.
Is it maybe that you've been programmed to react that way? Perish the thought. But just suppose it's true, just suppose some poncey, fancy talkin intellectual art teacher just put all those thoughts in your heads...in heads in general, it's not impossible. I mean just why does a pile of white blocks on the floor make you think more than Bobs landscapes? Then just think, 'well does it really make me think, or have I been pre-conditioned to think it makes me think, that I should look deeper, or pretend to at least, maybe I am afraid not to think because then I'll see stupid? Hmmmm
his work wasn't intended to make you think or react or feel...it was intended to show gramma that SHE too can paint without using a paint by numbers kit.
nothing wrong with that...
haha i used to watch bob ross with my grandmother! she could paint! i just sat there jealous!
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Yes... I'm afraid hyperbole is something I am cursed with.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
noun
a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud. See note at quack
nope, don't apply
Ok good... I thought we were growing apart. I feel better now.
What I don't get is why his simple landscapes make him nothing more than a decent painter, but Rothko's two-splodges-of-colour make him a genius.
Do you want a hug? Cus I can give you a hug.. if you want.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Perhaps he was their influence?
Oh and I consider Rembrandt and Caravaggio to be 2 of the world's most exquisite painters, but their work looks alot like alot of other stuff, wouldn't you say? Just saying..
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I've never called Rothko a genius. I'm not sure who I'd call a genius.. very few people. But Rothko, at the time he was painting, wasn't generic American tourist gift shop art.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
what the hell?? !! :eek:
Bob Ross was a great teacher!! he showed millions of people that painting landscapes is a relaxing and easy HOBBY...he wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking that his paintings were Monet's!!
he was like, "dude...use a fuckin' spatula to make tree trunks straight...use a white motherfucker to cover your mistakes...always add a sweet fuckin' road that leads around a bend...and make thefuckin' bitch assed trees happy - give em' some sick ass greenish fuzz for leaves...shit yeah, son!" (okay maybe he didn't talk like that...but you get my point.)
dude, they are happy little trees...not pretentious, blurry color blocks.
maybe a quick pat on the ass and send me on my way
Yes, I would. I'm not a fan of that kind of art. But are you comparing the skill of Bob Ross with Rembrandt? I hope not.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
If you'll scroll up, I've acknowledged Bob Ross was a great teacher. He taught people how to paint deceptively simple landscapes.
And very funny post btw.. A Bob Ross parody would be awesome.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Where do you read that I am comparing?
I clearly seperated both points with a few enters.
Walk through the Rijksmuseum, the masterpieces, and sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between different artists.
And No, I am not even comparing Rembrandt to Caravaggio.
I am talking about influencing other artists.
Bob Ross has clearly influenced an entire generation of amateur artists.
And you did say you 'fucking love Rothko" and he is "awesome".
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
yeah - he was never trying to pass his stuff of as anything more that 70's kitsch -stuff that is suitable hanging in gramma's house
("wow, gramma did you paint that yourself?!?! GRAMMA?? CAN YOU HEAR ME??? GRAMMMMA!!!! oh...sleeping...um DID - YOU - PAINT - THAT - YOUR...aww fuck it, NICE PAINTING GRAMMA!!" )
I think he was entertaining (as an art-school drop out) and instructive...besides, I loved his calming voice and the fact that, like Mr. Rogers, he was talking to you from a box...letting you know it's all okay...it's okay...shuuush shuuuush shuuuuuush ssshhhhhhhh shhhhhhhhh there you go, mija..it's okaaaaay...
You were saying that Bob Ross' stuff is generic in the same way that Rembrandt and Caravaggio's stuff is, yes?
Yes.. I do love Rothko. At the time he was painting, his style was revolutionary.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
So I'm given to hyperbole too.:p I don't think ragging on his work because it's not startlingly original is fair, though - I'd say the ability to paint a great-looking landscape is far more laudable than the ability to be "different" by throwing some random, coloured blobs on a canvas.
Where did you read that?
I need a drink.....
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
THANKYOU!!! 70's kitsch to hang up in Grandma's house in the outskirts of Disney World! I've been waiting for someone to say it... gimme a kiss!
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
I just felt I had to remind you what you said here. How are you *not* comparing these painters? You are saying that to call Bob Ross' style generic is not valid because Rembrandt and Caravaggio aren't so original either. Their stuff looks like other stuff.
If you're *not* saying that, please feel free to tell me what you are saying by the above post...
And pour me a Jim Beam?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
I said that they are 2 of the world's most amazing painters. And yet their stuff looks like many other artist's works. From the same period. I was not trying to compare the two. If that is how you read it, I apologize. Who the fuck would ever do that???
Dad drinks Jim Beam...ick.
And it isn't even noon here yet. I am a lady, you know.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
now do me !!!!
(I meant my turn for an e-kiss, Mr. Dirty pants!!!)
see, I don't think there is anything wrong with that description of Mr. Ross' work...it's not like he was harumphing about not being taken "seriously" as an artist...his work didn't convey anything beyond...um, I dunno...a forest with a copse of trees...maybe a barn?? who knows let's see if we need a pond...maybe some smoke coming out of a chimney...that isn't a barn anymore...see? now our family needs a pond to go fishing?? see? just like that.
his work wasn't intended to make you think or react or feel...it was intended to show gramma that SHE too can paint without using a paint by numbers kit.
nothing wrong with that...
he was a fine landscape artist, and that made him a great public access art teacher.
Yep.
And by the way, I did you.. did you feel it?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
very stealth!
oh - here is an example of Arthur Gilbert (Californian landscape painter - his stuff is actually in museums... http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/MOR20060620_3160/48.jpg this one is called Big Sur...I personally think he is lacking happy trees...)
basically, I personally find landscapes a little boring...and that includes even those painted by capital A Artists ...
now Harmless...apologize to Mr. Ross, and I shall give you 'nother big juicy e-kiss!! (dammit, they dont have a batting my eyes at you smilie!!!)
yeah, didn't think it would work
Who said Bob's work doesn't make you think? Ask yourself why, then ask yourself why you percieve that some of this so called 'intellectually superior' work does make you think.
Is it maybe that you've been programmed to react that way? Perish the thought. But just suppose it's true, just suppose some poncey, fancy talkin intellectual art teacher just put all those thoughts in your heads...in heads in general, it's not impossible. I mean just why does a pile of white blocks on the floor make you think more than Bobs landscapes? Then just think, 'well does it really make me think, or have I been pre-conditioned to think it makes me think, that I should look deeper, or pretend to at least, maybe I am afraid not to think because then I'll see stupid? Hmmmm
Like I said two days ago, Emporers new clothes
haha i used to watch bob ross with my grandmother! she could paint! i just sat there jealous!