No Grateful Dead comparisons!

DischordVision wrote:

I think we all need, as PJ fans, attempt to lose or disassociate w/ the Grateful Dead comparisons that have been written & talked about over the past 5-6 years.

Ok, let me put it on top of my "to do" list :rolleyes:

augustwest wrote:

how did/could you ever quit???

didn't you go to see any of those 1993 jgb shows???

eyes of the maker
shining star

need i say more?

hmmmft!

absolutely

saw my first JGB show in 1983

5-30-1983 Bushnell Auditorium, Hartford, CT
Set 1
How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) They Love Each Other Mission In The Rain Mystery Train Gomorrah Run For The Roses
Set 2
Rhapsody In Red I'll Take A Melody Simple Twist Of Fate Harder They Come Tangled Up In Blue Midnight Moonlight

and my first Dead show in 1982

04-18-82 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct. (Sun)
1: Bertha> Promised, FOTD> C. C. Rider, Ramble On, Me & My Uncle> Mexicali, Althea> L. L. Rain, Big RxR Blues, Let It Grow
2: Cold Rain> Samson, Ship Of Fools, Playin> Eyes> Drumz> Phil's Earthquake Space> Other One> Black Peter> Sugar Magnolia> Playin> Sunshine Daydream
E: Don't Ease

The scene got way out of hand in 1990. And I did not enjoy the band as much after brent died. I saw some really great shows in the 80s incuding some special garcia/kahn acoustic shows in small theaters.

By 1993, a lot of the magic was gone and the crowds were just outta hand.

last show:
09-18-93 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y. (Sat)
1: Half Step> Rooster, Althea, Masterpiece, B. E. Women, Cassidy, Loose Lucy
2: Iko Iko, Victim> Uncle John> Corinna> Drumz> Wheel> Watchtower> China Doll> Saturday Night E: Gloria
Rex Foundation benefit

good note to end on

Now, I go to the ratdog shows whenever I can.

Come Back in Black wrote:

This thread is getting old and starting to get stale.... time to spice it up. "That isa onea SPICY meataball!"

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r u a hippie hater?

dude on that site says men shouldn't have long hair...f'n funny stuff

guess i shud conform and git my hair cut right away! LMAO

Get_Right wrote:

absolutely

saw my first JGB show in 1983

5-30-1983 Bushnell Auditorium, Hartford, CT
Set 1
How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) They Love Each Other Mission In The Rain Mystery Train Gomorrah Run For The Roses
Set 2
Rhapsody In Red I'll Take A Melody Simple Twist Of Fate Harder They Come Tangled Up In Blue Midnight Moonlight

and my first Dead show in 1982

04-18-82 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct. (Sun)
1: Bertha> Promised, FOTD> C. C. Rider, Ramble On, Me & My Uncle> Mexicali, Althea> L. L. Rain, Big RxR Blues, Let It Grow
2: Cold Rain> Samson, Ship Of Fools, Playin> Eyes> Drumz> Phil's Earthquake Space> Other One> Black Peter> Sugar Magnolia> Playin> Sunshine Daydream
E: Don't Ease

The scene got way out of hand in 1990. And I did not enjoy the band as much after brent died. I saw some really great shows in the 80s incuding some special garcia/kahn acoustic shows in small theaters.

By 1993, a lot of the magic was gone and the crowds were just outta hand.

last show:
09-18-93 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y. (Sat)
1: Half Step> Rooster, Althea, Masterpiece, B. E. Women, Cassidy, Loose Lucy
2: Iko Iko, Victim> Uncle John> Corinna> Drumz> Wheel> Watchtower> China Doll> Saturday Night E: Gloria
Rex Foundation benefit

good note to end on

Now, I go to the ratdog shows whenever I can.

what was your last jerry show?

my first show was 1986 with dylan/petty and the dead opening

this was my last jerry show and it just so happens to have the BEST shining star you will EVER hear...HUGE LONG sing a long at the end of the song with jerry trading lines with the audience...OMG SOOOO SPECIAL...

11-5-1993 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo, NY
Set 1
Cats Under The Stars
Mission In The Rain
Simple Twist Of Fate
That's What Love Will Make You Do
Ain't No Bread In The Breadbox
Like A Road
Deal
Set 2
Shining Star
The Maker
Think
Reuben And Cherise
Gomorrah
Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)

I understand how things kind of spun outta control at the end but i just couldn't walk away from it...no matter what went down...certainly just to LIVE through that recent addition of eyes of the maker to the jgb setlists would have kept me interested

how about those shows with hornsby?...some magical stuff happening there for sure

http://www.devo.com/tft/hippie/hippie6.html

My last Grateful Dead show.



Lead Guitar: Jerry Garcia
Rhythm Guitar: Bob Weir
Bass: Phil Lesh
Keyboards: Vince Welnick
Drums: Bill Kreutzmann
Drums: Mickey Hart




07/08/95
Soldier Field - Chicago, IL

Set 1:
Jack Straw
Sugaree
Wang Dang Doodle
Althea
Queen Jane Approximately
Tennessee Jed
Eternity
Don't Ease Me In


Set 2:
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
It's All Too Much
Saint Of Circumstance
Terrapin Station
Drums
Space
The Other One
Visions Of Johanna
One More Saturday Night

Them-Bones wrote:

People compare Pearl Jam to the Grateful Dead in the way both bands tour, Pearl Jam tours a lot and has many people follow them on tour, Grateful Dead did the same thing, i don't think anyone is saying the fans or the music are the same when they compare the two bands.

...and then there's the whole "family" atmosphere...

I am in absolute heaven reading this thread.

I really need to thank the original poster, no matter how insanely ignorant that post was.

It's so good to read about so many who have been "struck" by the magic of the the GD experience and also fully appreciate the magic of PJ.

And of course how could this NOT turn into a Jerry Garcia appreciation thread.

My first GD show was in '82. Playin->drums/space->china doll->Terrapin and my life completely changed after that.

For me, things were never the same after Brent, and then especially after Bill Graham. Although I never stopped going and had many memorable experiences up until the end. Almost all the shows I attended were in California, which didn't get quite as crazy as those east coast tours those last few years.

My first PJ experience was unfortunately the GG park fiasco. But I did make it to the make up show in San Jose and I just went crazy over that. Although with PJ, it didn't take a live show for me to get really into them. I already liked them from listening to ten and vs.

I attended 157 GD shows, and only 9 full PJ shows. My overall show attendance dropped in 1995 when my wife and had the first of our 2 kids. I've seen a few Ratdog and Phil shows too, of course. I do enjoy the shows but it is also a "family" thing for me to.

There's definitely a lot of comparisons you could make. What's funny is you can find both a lot of similarities AND a lot of differences in just about everything when you compare the 2 bands and their following... The music, the live experience, the fans, etc...

So PJ at bonnarro would be the closest thing to having PJ mingle with anything resembling dead-ly. And I would be honored to endure the disgusting Tennessee summer heat for that!

DischordVision wrote:

I think we all need, as PJ fans, attempt to lose or disassociate w/ the Grateful Dead comparisons that have been written & talked about over the past 5-6 years.
First off, the Grateful Dead are dead, have been since Jerry Garcia died in 1995. Second, we are not nor am I by any means burnt out druggie hippies trying to revive the 1960's & 70's on a daily basis. Third, the music is huge parallels apart from each other. The Grateful Dead were just a dope/LSD laced jam band that happened to form in a city(San Francisco) that accepted that sort of birth at the time. We however, are not druggies (I hope) & have more intelligence & intrigue than most fans of rock bands. Pearl Jam's soul & identity gives way to the freedom of punk rock & the all out integrity of 70's arena rock. Ok, so the Dead & PJ had a lot of music out in a short length of time at their peak & the Ten Club members/die hards know the songs like their short n' curlys, so what? Pearl Jam's still alive, always have been & we know they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
So what makes us survive? The band's topics such as politics, evolution & faith? you decide...not some critic who sees us & the band as new age jam heads...no thank you at all...

What a stupid ass generalization about Dead fans...In the future have a clue about what you're talking about before writing it.

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