coke?

mammasan wrote:

I have lost a few good friends to heroin and a few more are probably better off dead instead of the herion induced zombie state they live in. It's a fucked up drug and it puzzles me to death why people still attempt to dabble with it knowing how addictive and destructive it can be.

People don't realize the problem kicking hard drugs like heroin, meth, coke, is not just physically kicking the habit, but coming to terms and coping with the person you've become afterwards (without the drug). Depending how deep one goes, even after the physical addiction is broken, it's still a lifelong psychological struggle, and you never really return to the person you once were. It's a seriously bad deal. Life wrecking.

even flow? wrote:

When you are around people on coke you can only hear the same story over, and over, and over again.

like alcohol, but without the slurring.
boring and expensive drug, I still don't understand the hype. Alcohol is more fun!

mammasan wrote:

Trust me I know. I have seen the damage hard drugs has done to several people in my life. My very first girlfriend back in high school dropped off the face of the earth while I was in college a few years later I had heard she was in pretty bad shape. Then no more news about her. About 2 years ago I was down the shore at a bar with some friends and I ran into her. She was a fucking mess. This used to be a really attractive girl. Tall with an athlete beautfull figure. When I saw her she was gaunt, her skin looked fucking grey, and her eyes where sucken into her head. She didn't even recognize me at first. When she finally did she ask me if I could spare a couple of bucks because she "lost her wallet". It fucking hurt to see someone I had known since kindergarten and even after we had are high school romance still remained best of friends begging like some crack whore just to get her next fix. I told her I had no cash but I would take her to get something to eat, and put it on my credit card, she got all pissed off and stormed away. The last I heard, from a friend who is a cop, is that she was busted for prostitution.

Just reading that gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. I feel bad for the ones that get lost and can't find a way climb out...what a nightmare.

Jeremy1012 wrote:

That's really brutal. Shit like that scares me a lot, though I don't write off the use of any drugs without trying it. I think you need to know what you are talking about before you can comment on it, as you clearly do. The weird thing is, some people really can use stuff like coke for long periods of time and never get messed up like that. I personally know several people who have but then I also know people who have been messed up. It's all about who you are as a person.

That was just one story from one friend. In total I have lost 4 friends to herion addiction, one blew his brains out the other 3 overdosed. An old classmate of mine was homeless the last time I heard, he was a huge coke fiend. A second classmate from grammer school is in prison for a string of robberies to help feed his addiction to coke. Then there is my ex girlfriend that I mentioned in my post and a forth friend who just keeps repeating the cycle of rehap followed by going back out for sometime and then back to rehab. There are 3 or 4 more old high school and grammer school classmates, some who where good friends while we where in school, who have completely dropped off the face of the earth. I honestly don't know if they are dead or alive or even if they managed to get their lives back together. Most of these people I grew up with but they decided to follow a different path than I did and ended up in the fucked up situations they are in now. I truely feel sorry for them and when I do see them, which is not very often, my heart sinks. I desperately want to help them but unfortunetly their addictions have complete control of them and they are not able or willing to get the necessary help. I feel that in a few years this death count will probably go up as more of them succumb to their addictions.

All things in moderation, people. There are more people ruining their lives and killing themselves (and others) with nicotine and alcohol than all the other drugs combined and those two drugs are legal.

I know way, way more people who have used coke and not wound up with a problem than I do those who did. In fact, almost always the issue is with the person not the drug that causes abuse. Drugs are just a good excuse to not deal with whatever the real problem is but obviously chemical abuse compounds things.

I've tried every substance known to man and the only thing I come back to is booze and weed.

Heineken Helen wrote:

:eek: heroin? Ya serious? Have you seen night of the living dead? That's what certain parts of dublin can be like. I understand that it's kinda glamourised a bit over there from previous threads? It's far from glamourised here... it's just a total waste of a life I think whenever I see a junkie

im not actually gonna do any of them..... i just cant see myself taking an upper... i think id go crazy...... i had an internship at a drug counseling center when i studied in scotland and most of the ppl were on heroin... it was depressing to see what had happened in their lives.... but as far as the feeling of when youre actually on the drug... yeah, id pick heroin. and i dont think its galmourised in america (if thats what you mean by over there lol)

Cocaine-induced convos tend to be self-absorbed and accommodating towards delusions of grandjeur. They're extensions of what the user is feeling, which is generally a focus on him/her self and whatever alternate reality that he/she is currently nursing. And, as is common knowledge, people who are self-absorbed and pre-occupied with a perception of their own greatness are infamously boring conversationalists.

well yeah, it WAS the 80's and using cocaine WAS mandatory

seriously though i did do it some. I guess that I was lucky in that i never had much of an addictive personality. I was one of those that could do a few lines and think "well that was fun" and not give a damn when I'd see another line. I haven't touched it since before i got pregnant with my first kid at 21. it quickly lost it's appeal for me and I just didn't see the point in doing it anymore. that probably had alot to do with watching my bf go from being a pretty nice guy to becoming a mean, abusive drunk and cokehead within over a year's time and beyond. he progressed to doing alot of coke, to the point where he was dealing in it order to pay for his habit, and running from his dealers. he would have times where he'd be clean of it for a few months but everytime he'd fall right back into doing it again. then his dad died and left him alot of $. so he literally shoved enough money to buy a nice house up his nose. and of course all of his abusive, nasty behaviors escalated with his coke use. it was too brutal to take and too heartbreaking to watch him continue to do to himself. I finally got my kids and myself away from him and never looked back.
I watched first-hand as coke (and booze as well) turned a fairly nice guy into a fucking monster so no one can ever convince me that there could ever be anything positive about that shit. :(

xscorcho wrote:

i had an internship at a drug counseling center when i studied in scotland and most of the ppl were on heroin... it was depressing to see what had happened in their lives....

i hear that

ive worked in a drug rehab centre (a general clinic but thats one aspect) in west Dublin (in a particularly bad area, young drug usage very common) for about 7 years part-time and we have list of about 40 heroin addicts receiving Methadone treatment at any given time. its just a slow moving line of them who come in, fuck about while meant to be on the treatment, and eventually OD. there are so few who manage to sort themselves out (as discussed earlier)

ive never seen a more useless human being in my life than a heroin addict. they (generally) seem to be incapable of looking after themselves, or caring about anyone else, they lose their kids to social welfare, lose their jobs...ugh its infuriating.

And to Helen, you're right: Coke = Bad. Ecstasy = VERY common in Dublin. Hash= harder to find than it was few years ago. Weed = as comonplace as Dodo's and Leprechauns.

i cant remember how long its been since ive been on a nite out and not seen someone doin pills or lines.

See Bertie made an issue of pointing out that the public should stop buying drugs and funding crime if they want crime rates to go down? Tellin it like it is...