Do PJ have the Green disease as they are getting older?

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,005
    PJBuckeye wrote:
    So keep expecting prices to go up.

    yeah we know
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  • canadajammer
    canadajammer Posts: 263
    I don't think we can complain about prices or consider them greedy, when they can be making more profit than they are right now. If tickets and boots were more expensive, they would still sell.


    And hell, I don't mind paying a little extra for the greatest music in the world.
  • pkh43
    pkh43 Posts: 253
    yes they are. Jeff said so himself. "we left alot of money on the table in the past" we are made to suffer now. Maybe not as much as other bands fans, but you would be blind not to see it a little. Still love them though and will pay whatever they ask. Contradictory I guess.
  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Here's a thought - they are a very community, charity oriented band (have you checked all the causes on their activism page?). How does anyone know that they haven't earmarked a certain percentage of their earnings to go to causes they care about? Like them thinking, people want to hear us, so let's use that so we can give to West Memphis 3, to Nature Conservancy, etc. You don't know that they keep everything they earn.
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  • Laura in NJ
    Laura in NJ Posts: 176
    callen wrote:
    Agree ticket prices are very reasonable..and less than most headliner bands....but they are selling posters, t-shrits, zippo lighters, "baby Clothes"......hey I'm glad though that they are...its all good but to think they don't have a marketing department that maximizes total sales?!?!

    And by the way, the merch and shipping on the PJ site is TOTALLY CHEAP. Where else can you still get a cool bumper sticker for a buck?

    I always keep a PJ sticker at the bottom of the back window of my Honda CR-V. When it was new, a friend checked out my wheels and observed, "What is this...the Pearl Jam Edition?"

    Indeed!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,928
    callen wrote:
    Agree ticket prices are very reasonable..and less than most headliner bands....but they are selling posters, t-shrits, zippo lighters, "baby Clothes"......hey I'm glad though that they are...its all good but to think they don't have a marketing department that maximizes total sales?!?!
    As all bands do...at least most of the merchandise is reasonably priced, and we haven't seen the "Pearl Jam Coffin" yet.
    There are plenty of other bands who gouge their fans to an exponentially greater degree.
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  • blueeyedevil
    blueeyedevil Posts: 173
    Poncier wrote:
    As all bands do...at least most of the merchandise is reasonably priced, and we haven't seen the "Pearl Jam Coffin" yet.
    There are plenty of other bands who gouge their fans to an exponentially greater degree.

    I agree with your overall premise, but I have never understood how it's "gouging" when a band puts out expensive / silly merchandise with its' logo. "Gouging", to me, is when you put a high price on something that people truly need. Nobody "needs" a Pearl Jam onsie, or a $50 EV lighter. If they choose to buy those items, then I hope they enjoy them, and I assume that they felt the cost was worth it.

    Food/water/shelter/air = NEEDS

    Tickets/poster/shirts/lighters = Luxury Items
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    They're okay but they could do better.

    $85 for a solo performer is just too much. $60-65 would be okay. Approaching $100 is too much...from this band that complained about wanting people to afford to be able to go to a rock concert back in the day.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    High Fidelity 2000 wrote:
    They're okay but they could do better.

    $85 for a solo performer is just too much.

    So by that logic, five douchebags playing in a garage should be able to charge more than Bruce Springsteen ... right?

    People need to get over comparing the Ed prices to the full-band prices. They are apples and oranges.

    A show is a show, and that's what you're paying for, no matter who is on stage. If acoustic singer-songwriter type stuff isn't your thing, then no sweat. But to think Ed should charge less because "he's just one guy" is kind of ludicrous.

    And I'll tell you what ... if you didn't see Ed on the west coast, then you have no idea what is or is not too much.
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Anybody who thinks the boots are too expensive clearly has never bought a CD in their life.

    My only question is....Why are the EV shows more expensive than the PJ shows? that makes NO SENSE.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Anybody who thinks the boots are too expensive clearly has never bought a CD in their life.

    My only question is....Why are the EV shows more expensive than the PJ shows? that makes NO SENSE.

    It makes plenty of sense.

    Smaller venue = higher demand for seats.

    Higher demand + lower supply = higher prices.

    Plus ... I'm just going to say it ... fuck it ... in many ways, the Ed solo show I saw was better than a regular Pearl Jam show. Certainly, it was something different for those of us who have seen a dozen or more full band shows.

    How much would you pay to hear Ed play in your living room? Because that's close to what you're getting here.
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  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    PJBuckeye wrote:
    We all have a green disease. EVERYBODY needs money. Including Pearl Jam. Why else would we all spend 40+ hours doing things that we are somewhat indifferent about? It is because we are all greedy.


    I was waiting for someone to say this. If they didn't waste all their money on boozing and drugs in the past then they are probably still pretty well off. I'm not complaining just pointing out facts. I paid $300 for a pair to Portland '06. No one seems to really be mentioning the other piece of paper they are inflating the price on POSTERS!!! As well as other tour merchandise. They make fortune off of these other items and fans make a fortune reselling the posters.

    How about they start charging $200 a shot for the posters and go back to $40 tickets?

    Like I said I'm not complaining, I'll pay whatever they want. They are Pearl Jam after all!

    Oh and maybe play a few shows in the NorthWest sometime.
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  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    slightofjeff wrote:
    It makes plenty of sense.

    Smaller venue = higher demand for seats.

    Higher demand + lower supply = higher prices.

    Plus ... I'm just going to say it ... fuck it ... in many ways, the Ed solo show I saw was better than a regular Pearl Jam show. Certainly, it was something different for those of us who have seen a dozen or more full band shows.

    How much would you pay to hear Ed play in your living room? Because that's close to what you're getting here.


    You must have a BIG living room!!!


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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Horos wrote:
    You must have a BIG living room!!!


    Post of the BEAST!

    I do. I'm rich. How else could I afford to see Pearl Jam in concert? ;)
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,928
    blueeyedevil wrote:
    "Gouging", to me, is when you put a high price on something that people truly need.
    Well I consider $1,250.00 to sit in the first 10 rows for a concert *coughBonJovicough* to be gouging, but thats just me.
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  • gozzo5058
    gozzo5058 Posts: 611
    no they don't...if anything the prices have crept up do to inflation and rising fuel costs that drive the cost of touring up...also $75 for a concert hall tour is not too much as there has to be a base cost for any tour...remember these are not 20,000 seaters he is playing...just my thoughts...
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  • RockMama
    RockMama Deep Creek Lake, MD Posts: 478
    If you look at all the money they give to activism and charities, I'm not sure how this statement could be made. Go to the activism tab. Here's just one example: "Red Cloud Indian School students and teachers were “rock-starred” Monday by a surprise guest to the school, Pearl Jam rhythmic guitarist and vocalist Stone Gossard. While known to the world as a member of one of the most popular American rock bands of all time, people at Red Cloud know him for his contributions to rebuilding homes and making wheelchair ramps for the elderly and handicapped on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation."
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    slightofjeff wrote:
    So by that logic, five douchebags playing in a garage should be able to charge more than Bruce Springsteen ... right?

    People need to get over comparing the Ed prices to the full-band prices. They are apples and oranges.

    A show is a show, and that's what you're paying for, no matter who is on stage. If acoustic singer-songwriter type stuff isn't your thing, then no sweat. But to think Ed should charge less because "he's just one guy" is kind of ludicrous.

    And I'll tell you what ... if you didn't see Ed on the west coast, then you have no idea what is or is not too much.


    I totally agree with this. That is like saying movie tickets should be different prices depending on how many big stars are in them. By that logic tickets for the Ocean's 11 series should have been the most expensive movie tickets ever. But in reality it is 10 bucks no matter what.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    I totally agree with this. That is like saying movie tickets should be different prices depending on how many big stars are in them. By that logic tickets for the Ocean's 11 series should have been the most expensive movie tickets ever. But in reality it is 10 bucks no matter what.

    I was actually going to mention Oceans 11 in my other post.

    It would be like complaining that the cost of a movie in which Clooney is the sole star is the same price as a movie with Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia and Julia Roberts.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    ha. thats hilarious. people saying that because its just one guy, the tickets should be cheaper.

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