Do PJ have the Green disease as they are getting older?

curmudgeoness

RockMama wrote:

If you look at all the money they give to activism and charities, I'm not sure how this statement could be made. Go to the activism tab. Here's just one example: "Red Cloud Indian School students and teachers were “rock-starred” Monday by a surprise guest to the school, Pearl Jam rhythmic guitarist and vocalist Stone Gossard. While known to the world as a member of one of the most popular American rock bands of all time, people at Red Cloud know him for his contributions to rebuilding homes and making wheelchair ramps for the elderly and handicapped on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation."

Well, this is very cool. Pine Ridge is one of, if not the, poorest communities in our country.

Red Mosqito

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

the reason that ticket prices keep going up is because album sales keep going down. they know they'll always sell out arenas so they're going to milk it because that's they're money maker. In 1995, their money maker was album royalties. not anymore. That's why they were able to charge such low prices in the mid to late '90s.

But I don't know what the original poster is talking about with the bootlegs prices. I think they're more than reasonable.

Just because a artist sells "millions" of albums doesn't mean that the artist themselves are rolling in the dough. Typically with album sales, the band is lucky if they see a few cents per album after advances for studio time and advertising/marketing fees are taken out. The reason PJ's tickets were less back in the '90's is because they were a new band that were still getting their name out there...that and the fact that in the '90's ticket prices were just generally lower.

Musicians only make money by touring...hence why some bands tour non-stop, because that is where they make the bulk of their money.

Kel Varnsen

Red Mosqito wrote:

Just because a artist sells "millions" of albums doesn't mean that the artist themselves are rolling in the dough. Typically with album sales, the band is lucky if they see a few cents per album after advances for studio time and advertising/marketing fees are taken out.

I am not sure if those numbers are right I think when you buy a cd the money going to the artist is around a couple of percent of what you pay. Pearl Jam is probably on the higher end of that because they write their own songs, produce or co-produce their albums and sometimes use the studio owned by Stone.

Regardless even if it is only a few cents Ten sold over 10 million copies versus around 6 million. The most recent self-titled album only sold around 700,000 copies. Even if they are only making a few cents per album a drop like that is a huge loss in revenue. Can you imagine if you had two jobs and in one of them you were only making around 10% of what you were 15 years ago? Of course you would need to make more in the other one to survive.

floyd1975

PJ_Lukin wrote:

If I work, I get paid. If you work, you get paid.

If I own a company with employees, taxes, insurance of all kinds, rent or a mortgage, overhead of all kinds, and, oh God forbid, make a little Profit, am I a bad person?

Why is PJ held to a higher standard?

I think it might be because their front man takes every opportunity to publicly denigrate people with money.

Bathgate66

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slightofjeff

floyd1975 wrote:

I think it might be because their front man takes every opportunity to publicly denigrate people with money.

Is Ed against people with money?
Or greedy people with money?

Because there's a difference.

writersu

I love EV but without PJ does it even make it the same thing? I mean I wouldn't see PearlJam--Eddie, so why the other way around? So for the many of you that travel a lot to see PJ. Is a solo tour worth it ?

Roeghmann

NO - I don´t think they are being greedy. Their prices are reasonable. Hey remember it´s their job. They have families to provide for.

Ledbetterdays

I know one thing that probably drives up costs is trying to be carbon neutral. I know Stone has been passionate about this in the past and this along with their charitable donations I can see how prices would be higher. They are still more affordable than their peers which is really the only way to compare at this point.

decides2dream

i wouldn't call it 'green disease'...simply pure, good business sense. sure, the guys LOVE music and love to play/perform, but they absolutely are in it to make a living too. they give generously to charities, lend support when/however they can....and sure, are out to make a good living. they ARE getting older - aren't we all? - and with that you think of your future earning potential, securing your future financially, etc. i think it's great how they still - even with rising costs - are 'reasonable' tickets to buy, still give soooo much in their live performances, long shows, varied setlists, etc. beyond that, yes....i am a wee bit surprised with all the 'merchandise' coming out as of late, but hey...if there were no market, there'd be no product. so i simply call them smart. and sure, fans love it...so win-win. if i were in their situation, i would hope i would balance it all just as well...personal gratification/security/happiness...and delivering to the fans. well done.

floyd1975

slightofjeff wrote:

Is Ed against people with money?
Or greedy people with money?

Because there's a difference.

I haven't really ever noticed him differentiating between the two. Who gets to define who is greedy? He seems to have a problem with some really wealthy people who give a great deal to charitable causes.

Music For Rhinos

Surprised no one has mentioned this...


If you click on the Green Disease T-shirt in the goods section of http://www.pearljam.com it says:

We've got the disease too. Otherwise, we'd give 'em away.

Wilds

Music For Rhinos wrote:

Surprised no one has mentioned this...


If you click on the Green Disease T-shirt in the goods section of http://www.pearljam.com it says:

We've got the disease too. Otherwise, we'd give 'em away.

Good. Now that we have our answer we can lock this puppy up.

ajedigecko

Wilds wrote:

Good. Now that we have our answer we can lock this puppy up.

hold on......do not lock it yet. here is an idea and just think of it like this.

"when you buy pearl jam/ed merchandise, consider it a donation"

there that should make someone feel better.

Fahka

samnation wrote:

More like the kids and wives disease. Plus the inevitability of them no longer touring/releasing new music at all but still wanting to support the kids and wives in the future.

P.S. if you need a candidate for the "green disease", look no further than Ms. "$350 face value per ticket + I love Stub Hub" Madonna.

I agree with this statement

Surf Rider

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