Roger Clemens...STEROIDS!!

AstroFan wrote:

Clemens may have had a run in with a catcher from New York, but has he ever murdered a bird? HUH!?

http://www.thescreamonline.com/strange/strange08-01/bird4.jpg

That damn roid rage strikes again.

Hahaha. I'll always remember that highlight

He got sooooo mad at that bird.....just went off on it haha.

i have been saying for years that clemens is a steroid freak.....

and julio franco is a bigger steroid freak than any of them....
48 years old????

gimme a break......

moeaholic wrote:

just out of curiosity, do they run a test during a physical? if yes, then he must have just had a test run, seeing as he needed a physical before being able to join the yanks.

personally, i've never heard his name come up concerning steroids. ever. and the amount of years he's been in the big leagues, he must have had at least one random test done by now. i'll reserve judgement for the likes of palmeiro, bonds, giambi............

his body has changed over the years just like every other player you mentioned....

right???

moeaholic wrote:

just out of curiosity, do they run a test during a physical? if yes, then he must have just had a test run, seeing as he needed a physical before being able to join the yanks.

personally, i've never heard his name come up concerning steroids. ever. and the amount of years he's been in the big leagues, he must have had at least one random test done by now. i'll reserve judgement for the likes of palmeiro, bonds, giambi............

Well Clemens' name has come up via his personal trainor, Brian McNamee, in the steroid controversy. Brian McNamee was named by Jason Grimsley who was Clemens teammate with the Yankees as the man who put him in touch with a source to buy HGH in an affidavit after being busted last year.

moeaholic wrote:

so the relation in all this is clemens had (or has) a trainer that provided the name of someone that got hgh to a former teammate of his? how does that translate to clemens taking steroids or hgh? guilty by association?

Sunday, October 01, 2006

Steroid Era News: Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada, Gibbons, Roberts & Segui Named in Grimsley Affidavit

Five of the redacted names from the Jason Grimsley Affadavit by IRS Special Agent, Jeff Novitzky finally leaked to the media after four months of speculation. Multiple media outlets have now published the redacted names of six former teammates including David Segui who confessed to ESPN that he was taking human growth hormone legally.

The report, first surfacing in the Los Angeles Times, said an anonymous source with access to the unedited version of the affidavit, let the newspaper view it, but didn't turn over the document. The Times said a second source who had identified the other players provided additional details about the document.

Grimsley told investigators he obtained amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormone from a source recommended to him by former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee. McNamee was the personal strength coach for Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte when Grimsley played for the Yankees. Later in the Affidavit, Grimsley confirmed that Clemens and Pettitte both used ‘athletic performance-enhancing drugs.”

The affidavit also states that Grimsley told federal agents that former Orioles teammates Miguel Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons all "took anabolic steroids."

On Wednesday, Gibbons told ESPN The Magazine's Amy K. Nelson he hadn’t seen a copy of the affidavit but was told by his agent and other journalists that his name was in it. He also said he assumed he was named as part of the group to which Grimsley referred when discussing amphetamines.

ESPN also reported that according to three sources, the Orioles' front office held separate meetings with Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts in June. The meetings took place to inform the players that their names were rumored to be on the affidavit, and that they should all consult their lawyers. According to one source in the room, the meeting was simply a heads-up, and no other detailed information from the affidavit was shared.

The sixth player named in the affidavit was former teammate David Segui. Segui came forward in June admitting he was the player mentioned who was using hGH he got from a doctor. He said his use was legal, obtained with a valid prescription. Segui conceded he never informed Major League Baseball of his hGH use as was required.

Grimsley was never arrested and has not been charged with anything. Since the report surfaced in the media last June, Grimsley has complained to friends that federal agents attributed statements to him that he never made. A friend of Grimsley’s said, “Jason is loyal to the death, a hardheaded guy who would not give up his friends. The only names he discussed with those investigators were names … [the investigators] suggested to him."

It's so funny, but Jose Canseco turns out to be an honest guy in all the steroid talk.
I think everyone is guilty nowadays, and it's a shame but I think MLB loved it at the time and never once thought it would come out. That being said I think Clemens is the biggest steroid/HGH whatever else user in the game.

ballbag wrote:

i'm pretty sure steroids made this guy's mustache curl up.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/bbbbblog/fingers.jpg

Rollie!!!

Solat13 wrote:

Sunday, October 01, 2006

Steroid Era News: Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada, Gibbons, Roberts & Segui Named in Grimsley Affidavit

Five of the redacted names from the Jason Grimsley Affadavit by IRS Special Agent, Jeff Novitzky finally leaked to the media after four months of speculation. Multiple media outlets have now published the redacted names of six former teammates including David Segui who confessed to ESPN that he was taking human growth hormone legally.

The report, first surfacing in the Los Angeles Times, said an anonymous source with access to the unedited version of the affidavit, let the newspaper view it, but didn't turn over the document. The Times said a second source who had identified the other players provided additional details about the document.

Grimsley told investigators he obtained amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormone from a source recommended to him by former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee. McNamee was the personal strength coach for Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte when Grimsley played for the Yankees. Later in the Affidavit, Grimsley confirmed that Clemens and Pettitte both used ‘athletic performance-enhancing drugs.”

The affidavit also states that Grimsley told federal agents that former Orioles teammates Miguel Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons all "took anabolic steroids."

On Wednesday, Gibbons told ESPN The Magazine's Amy K. Nelson he hadn’t seen a copy of the affidavit but was told by his agent and other journalists that his name was in it. He also said he assumed he was named as part of the group to which Grimsley referred when discussing amphetamines.

ESPN also reported that according to three sources, the Orioles' front office held separate meetings with Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts in June. The meetings took place to inform the players that their names were rumored to be on the affidavit, and that they should all consult their lawyers. According to one source in the room, the meeting was simply a heads-up, and no other detailed information from the affidavit was shared.

The sixth player named in the affidavit was former teammate David Segui. Segui came forward in June admitting he was the player mentioned who was using hGH he got from a doctor. He said his use was legal, obtained with a valid prescription. Segui conceded he never informed Major League Baseball of his hGH use as was required.

Grimsley was never arrested and has not been charged with anything. Since the report surfaced in the media last June, Grimsley has complained to friends that federal agents attributed statements to him that he never made. A friend of Grimsley’s said, “Jason is loyal to the death, a hardheaded guy who would not give up his friends. The only names he discussed with those investigators were names … [the investigators] suggested to him."

ok, so because jason grimsley said clemens and pettite took performance enhancing drugs, then it's true? is this the most definitive proof out there? and as far as jason grimsley goes, i wouldn't trust him as far as i could throw him. he's the dude that snuck through an air conditioning duct to replace a bat used by albert belle, that the umps thought was corked, with a legit bat.

man, and i thought everyone here went by the "innocent until proven guilty" stance. like i said before, if it comes out that clemens is a doper, then i'll lose all respect for the man and call him a cheater, right alongside you. but telling me that a former player, that has a history of being shady, said he used steroids.......not good enough, man.

he doesnt need steroids. he just masturbates a lot.... a LOT!
power pitcher you bet.