I hate hate hate fox hunting

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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Fox hunting is NOT ethical eradication of vermin with a gun. It's animals being ripped to pieces by a pack of dogs. For sport.

    It's almost as if Get_Right hasn't read any of your previous points... actually, scrap 'almost'.
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  • mookie9999
    mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    reeferchief wrote:
    Going down how exactly?:eek::p
    Nice! I'll have to base how exactly I meant this based on the agent! ;)
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    It's almost as if Get_Right hasn't read any of your previous points... actually, scrap 'almost'.


    I have but dont characterize the activity as harshly. My views of animals is very different-obviously.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Get_Right wrote:
    I have but dont characterize the activity as harshly. My views of animals is very different-obviously.

    But Jeremy1012 outrightly stated (and he's right) that it's a fallacy to suggest that fox hunting is EVER 'necessary' for population control.. and it certainly is not legal or ethical..
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Fox hunting is NOT ethical eradication of vermin with a gun. It's animals being ripped to pieces by a pack of dogs. For sport.


    Who said anyting about vermin? Im talking bears, aligators, deer, boar, moose etc.....

    I guess there are some ethical issues with the dogs (is it the dogs that kill the fox? If so I actually didnt know that), but its not that different from bird hunting where the dogs flush em out.

    I have no problem with humans shooting animals, as long as the existence of that species is not in question or threatened. But its not my thing as I hate guns. And I dont approve of lures or other enticing ways to get the game to come to you.

    I thought they had eliminated the fox hunts so that they are really just a display of fancy hunting coats and hats! A bunch of aristocrats riding horses through the country-who the heck cares? Bigger problem is the poachers killing the congo gorillas.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Get_Right wrote:
    Who said anyting about vermin? Im talking bears, aligators, deer, boar, moose etc.....

    I guess there are some ethical issues with the dogs (is it the dogs that kill the fox? If so I actually didnt know that), but its not that different from bird hunting where the dogs flush em out.

    Yes, and this is plainly wrong too. Neither should birds be tortured for sport.
    Get_Right wrote:
    I thought they had eliminated the fox hunts so that they are really just a display of fancy hunting coats and hats! A bunch of aristocrats riding horses through the country-who the heck cares? Bigger problem is the poachers killing the congo gorillas.

    Firstly, the point is, it doesn't matter what new laws are passed - it's still happening. People are ignoring the laws.

    Secondly, what, so there's a hierarchy of importance when it comes to this stuff? Congo Gorillas are great... who cares about foxes?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    I have but dont characterize the activity as harshly. My views of animals is very different-obviously.
    Obviously, and that's your prerogative. It worries me that this kind of apathy from some just perpetuates the activity though. The mindset behind killing things, whether those things are 'useful' and 'intelligent' or not, for entertainment is one that should be discouraged by all. I just think it's sheer arrogance to think that an animal is less deserving of the sanctity that humans seem to afford to their own lives. I'm sure foxes don't rate us too highly either.

    And as long as there are those advocating sport-orientated death by dog pack for nuisances, I will be advocating the same for those that do it :cool: After all, if we're allowed to decide how valuable a life is, just because we're "civilised" then I'm taking it upon myself to assign values to humans too. Needless to say, inbred twats in red jackets and stupid hats are fairly low on my list.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Secondly, what, so there's a hierarchy of importance when it comes to this stuff? Congo Gorillas are great... who cares about foxes?
    I too am puzzled by that. It's exactly what I mean in my last post. When did we get the right to decide how important something is? Don't get me wrong, I will be less concerned about a dead fox than a dead person. Doesn't mean I think that ripping a fox to pieces to make me feel like a man is justified.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Obviously, and that's your prerogative. It worries me that this kind of apathy from some just perpetuates the activity though. The mindset behind killing things, whether those things are 'useful' and 'intelligent' or not, for entertainment is one that should be discouraged by all. I just think it's sheer arrogance to think that an animal is less deserving of the sanctity that humans seem to afford to their own lives. I'm sure foxes don't rate us too highly either.

    And as long as there are those advocating sport-orientated death by dog pack for nuisances, I will be advocating the same for those that do it :cool: After all, if we're allowed to decide how valuable a life is, just because we're "civilised" then I'm taking it upon myself to assign values to humans too. Needless to say, inbred twats in red jackets and stupid hats are fairly low on my list.

    I think we should organise a cull. :)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    But Jeremy1012 outrightly stated (and he's right) that it's a fallacy to suggest that fox hunting is EVER 'necessary' for population control.. and it certainly is not legal or ethical..

    my statement was much more general and not necessarily directed at fox hunting
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Get_Right wrote:
    my statement was much more general and not necessarily directed at fox hunting
    Well the thread is specifically about fox hunting, hence the crossed wires :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Get_Right wrote:
    my statement was much more general and not necessarily directed at fox hunting

    Fair enough statement... whilst I don't agree, general or not, thanks for qualifying.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    The mindset behind killing things, whether those things are 'useful' and 'intelligent' or not, for entertainment is one that should be discouraged by all.


    never gone fishing? never poured salt on a slug?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    never gone fishing? never poured salt on a slug?

    Nope. :)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    dunkman wrote:
    never gone fishing? never poured salt on a slug?
    Went fishing once but I was about 10 so I am allowed to have changed my opinions :) plus, I only used a net and put the fish back in the water.

    And as for the slug thing, no. Seen it done though.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Nope. :)


    didnt ask you :p
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Went fishing once but I was about 10 so I am allowed to have changed my opinions :) plus, I only used a net and put the fish back in the water.

    And as for the slug thing, no. Seen it done though.


    ok thanks :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    didnt ask you :p

    True. I just wanted to act smug because I don't kill shit. :p
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    True. I just wanted to act smug because I don't kill shit. :p
    Everything about that sentence is excellent :D
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    True. I just wanted to act smug because I don't kill shit. :p


    you kill threads ;)


    not even a wasp? i hate wasps.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.

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