I hate hate hate fox hunting

MattCameronKicksButt

This may not come as a shock but it's still happening despite the law against it. I think the rule is that they're allowed to shoot the fox but not chase it. :rolleyes: So the people that partake just say 'well the dogs come along and if they should chase the fox (which of course they do) then we're unable to stop them. *wink wink*

As for the protests, I was told that it was just a class thing, that people that are against the sport, actually just don't like the richer country community. That had never crossed my mind at one point but now I'm starting to think the hunters who generally ARE country folk believe they're above the law.
My father in law (a JP!!!) told me 'yeah sure, it's not right and it's against the law but there's ways around it and if there's no one there that can enforce the law, it doesn't matter'. So I said 'so I can go and murder someone but if no one sees, it doesn't matter? Great! Can I borrow your gun'?

It's really not about class, it's about an innocent animal being terrified, running to save it's poor life, only to be torn apart by a pack of dogs. I'm preaching to the wrong people, I know but I had to get that off my chest.


P.S. :mad:

Oh and it gives me such a warm feeling inside to know my boyfriend's dead against it, being as he grew up in that kind of lifestyle.

mookie9999

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

This may not come as a shock but it's still happening despite the law against it. I think the rule is that they're allowed to shoot the fox but not chase it. :rolleyes: So the people that partake just say 'well the dogs come along and if they should chase the fox (which of course they do) then we're unable to stop them. *wink wink*

As for the protests, I was told that it was just a class thing, that people that are against the sport, actually just don't like the richer country community. That had never crossed my mind at one point but now I'm starting to think the hunters who generally ARE country folk believe they're above the law.
My father in law (a JP!!!) told me 'yeah sure, it's not right and it's against the law but there's ways around it and if there's no one there that can enforce the law, it doesn't matter'. So I said 'so I can go and murder someone but if no one sees, it doesn't matter? Great! Can I borrow your gun'?

It's really not about class, it's about an innocent animal being terrified, running to save it's poor life, only to be torn apart by a pack of dogs. I'm preaching to the wrong people, I know but I had to get that off my chest.


P.S. :mad:

I misread your title. I thought that you hated fax hunting. I was about to go off on a rant about how people at the office should just leave faxes that do not belong to them in the tray as opposed to throwing them in the recyclable bin so that I don't have to hunt them down! Then I actually read your post and got sad. :( Hey, Fuckers, Leave them Foxes Alone!!

MattCameronKicksButt

mookie9999 wrote:

I misread your title. I thought that you hated fax hunting. I was about to go off on a rant about how people at the office should just leave faxes that do not belong to them in the tray as opposed to throwing them in the recyclable bin so that I don't have to hunt them down! Then I actually read your post and got sad. :( Hey, Fuckers, Leave them Foxes Alone!!

Go Mookie, go Mookie! Stand up to those fax hunters! They're scum! I spit on them!

mookie9999

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

Go Mookie, go Mookie! Stand up to those fax hunters! They're scum! I spit on them!

I will! Just as soon as I get back from vacation I'm kicking some ass! I don't even care that 90% of my office are females! They're all going down!

MattCameronKicksButt

mookie9999 wrote:

I will! Just as soon as I get back from vacation I'm kicking some ass! I don't even care that 90% of my office are females! They're all going down!

HAHA! Now stop ruining my threads! I was ready to bash some heads together and now I'm just giggling. :mad: You did this to CornishMan's birthday thread. It ended up being about people that smell of various foods. hahaha

samick

I just want to know who waste their energy chasing a fox when it's far easier to just set a trap and sit back and wait..........

I am all for hunting........Some of the ways i don't understand.........but to each their own

And as far as the killing the human comment.........THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUMAN AND A FOX

dunkman

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

As for the protests, I was told that it was just a class thing, that people that are against the sport, actually just don't like the richer country community.

who told you that... Liar McHearsay?

thats bollocks... people who protested were mainly from animal right groups.. or at least were affiliated with them

anyway, i hate them.. not "just dont like".. i actually loathe them

sponger

samick wrote:

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUMAN AND A FOX

That's a compliment for foxes.

MattCameronKicksButt

samick wrote:

And as far as the killing the human comment.........THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUMAN AND A FOX

Well yeah, that's true but it got my point across about people turning the other cheek.

And dunk, I can't loathe these people because apart from this, most of them are pretty cool. If I hated everyone that did somethig I didn't like, I'd hate everyone.

samick

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

Well yeah, that's true but it got my point across about people turning the other cheek.

not to me........I see it as kind of a ham handed comment............because the two are not even close..........

MattCameronKicksButt

samick wrote:

not to me........I see it as kind of a ham handed comment............because the two are not even close..........

I'm full of ham handed comments because I'm not very good at expressing myself. Maybe dad in law thought the same thing because he didn't say anything back.

samick

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

I'm full of ham handed comments because I'm not very good at expressing myself. Maybe dad in law thought the same thing because he didn't say anything back.

Of course I think most if not all the animals rights people should be locked up in a mental hospital............


the only kind of hunting i don't like are caged hunts.........

MyHandsBound

that's a rich person's sport.....

MattCameronKicksButt

samick wrote:

Of course I think most if not all the animals rights people should be locked up in a mental hospital............

I wouldn't go that far but as a meat eater, it would be a bit rich of me to complain about people that hunt and then eat what they've caught. Unless of course you're a bad shot like Madonna. I'd rather that than the animal being locked in a pen and treated poorly.

In our countries though, I don't understand hunting souly for sport. I mean, take up darts or something? Tradition doesn't mean much really, we're not living in third world countries.

reeferchief

mookie9999 wrote:

I will! Just as soon as I get back from vacation I'm kicking some ass! I don't even care that 90% of my office are females! They're all going down!

Going down how exactly?:eek::p

samick

sponger wrote:

That's a compliment for foxes.

In a manner yes.........i've never tried eating humans or foxes........but i'll bet that the fox would taste better.........

dunkman

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

And dunk, I can't loathe these people because apart from this, most of them are pretty cool. If I hated everyone that did somethig I didn't like, I'd hate everyone.

the landed gentry are not cool.. i know this...

i live in the 2nd largest rural county in Scotland... hundreds if not thousands of the posh twats live around here... all drive land rovers and smell of shit

MattCameronKicksButt

dunkman wrote:

the landed gentry are not cool.. i know this...

i live in the 2nd largest rural county in Scotland... hundreds if not thousands of the posh twats live around here... all drive land rovers and smell of shit

You forgot that most of them own a Labrador. Not that there's anything wrong with that! :eek: It's just that they do.

Most of them are pretty cool though. Like when I was house sitting for them and the place flooded, boyfriend was at work and I was there alone with our newborn baby, most of the neighbours came round and offered help at draining the water, making drinks, watching baby at times, etc. There's more but I won't bore you with it.

Riverrunner

dunkman wrote:

anyway, i hate them.. not "just dont like".. i actually loathe them

Me too.

failedpersephone

Fax Hunting is a great sport...fills up hours of a work day - all to find out that the resulting fax was used as some sort of coffee cup coaster by what I would classify as a possible "trainable" :mad:


fOx hunting, on the other hand is barbaric and cruel...no one eats the foxes...it isn't used for sustenance at all. As a matter of fact, the fox hunt was expanded to include the "newly rich" middle class who wanted the prestige of being "landed gentry" but lacked the acreage to hunt deer (which could actually be eaten) The use of dogs was to preserve the pomposity of the gentry who felt it was beneath them to hunt "vermin"

there has never been much purpose behind the hunting of foxes, even as population control...they had to import a different variety of fox which interbred with the native English foxes creating a strain known as the European Red fox.

Hunting foxes becomes even more ridiculous in this century...and for people to claim that it is because of tradition or culture makes me wonder if they feel it would be fine for them to essentially request some form of compensation (dowry) for their daughter's hand...do their wives vote? In the U.S. would we be able to own slaves?? that could have been a tradition too!

oh, by the way - I AM comparing the barbaric fox hunt with slave ownership and the categorical subjugation of humans based on race, creed, economic class. Yes, they are animals...but, ahem, so are we.

using another animal for food -with respect and NEED, I do not have a problem with...I personally do not do it, but I am fortunate enough to be able to have multiple choices regarding sustenance...

MCKB - kick those jerks in the shins for me!

MattCameronKicksButt

failedpersephone wrote:

Fax Hunting is a great sport...fills up hours of a work day - all to find out that the resulting fax was used as some sort of coffee cup coaster by what I would classify as a possible "trainable" :mad:


fOx hunting, on the other hand is barbaric and cruel...no one eats the foxes...it isn't used for sustenance at all. As a matter of fact, the fox hunt was expanded to include the "newly rich" middle class who wanted the prestige of being "landed gentry" but lacked the acreage to hunt deer (which could actually be eaten) The use of dogs was to preserve the pomposity of the gentry who felt it was beneath them to hunt "vermin"

there has never been much purpose behind the hunting of foxes, even as population control...they had to import a different variety of fox which interbred with the native English foxes creating a strain known as the European Red fox.

Hunting foxes becomes even more ridiculous in this century...and for people to claim that it is because of tradition or culture makes me wonder if they feel it would be fine for them to essentially request some form of compensation (dowry) for their daughter's hand...do their wives vote? In the U.S. would we be able to own slaves?? that could have been a tradition too!

oh, by the way - I AM comparing the barbaric fox hunt with slave ownership and the categorical subjugation of humans based on race, creed, economic class. Yes, they are animals...but, ahem, so are we.

using another animal for food -with respect and NEED, I do not have a problem with...I personally do not do it, but I am fortunate enough to be able to have multiple choices regarding sustenance...

MCKB - kick those jerks in the shins for me!

Yes ma'am! Next time I see *boyfriends mum, I'll kick her hard in the shins and say 'this is from California bitch'!