If I may?....

Specifics wrote:

Just a very simple question that intrigues me if I may, answer if you dare I guess.

Anonymous answers allowed there's no requirement to supply any personal information.

Multiple choice, whatevers closest to your genuine opinion on this.

What do you think was americas' motivation for starting this last war in Iraq?


A. War on terror

B. Threat of WMD

C. Freedom/Welfare of the Iraqi people

D. Totally in its own selfish interest

E. Other ( please give brief explanation)

E: other

I think it is a bit of all of the above, and probably much more stuff beneath the surface. When they say it's a war on terror or for the good of the Iraqi people, part of them fully believes that, even while another part is salivating over their own selfish interests. Therefore , they feel at peace and even honourable. It's the script that they tell themselves over and over, when they can't deal with their own truth. People are only aware of their conscious motivations. And people deny their ugly motivations and make them go unconscious, so that they can be at peace with themselves. Unfortunately for them, but great for us, is that those of us who are perceptive see the unconscious motivations that reflect all over the place. We can see realistically. We have a vested interest in seeing things realistically, while they have a vested interest in denying their own ugliness and flaws, even to themselves. It's par for the course of normal human denial. We all do this. The WMD part, well most humans are controlled by fear to different degrees, so it is definitely a valid variable as well. If they were honestly concerned about WMDs on one hand, while also heinously milking the fear of the populations on the other, I would not be at all surprised.

Now that Southern Ontario is thoroughly represented, anyone else???.....

E. The US needs a sustained presense in the Middle East to protect our interests their *cough* oil *cough*. Another reason that is rarely covered in the Petro currency. Right now petroluem is bought and sold using the US dollar. Saddam was the first oil producing nation to decide that Iraq's oil would use the Euro as it's petro currency. Now one oil producing nation doing this isn't going to tank our economy, but if other countries where to follow the US dollar would go into free fall. Iran, coincidentally, is another country that has anounced that it would use the Euro as it Petro currency. And for proof look at how much more valuable the Euro is than our dollar.

The answer is E

If you want the real motivation then i think you should watch this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967

Rob Newman - The History Of Oil

# In Iraq for Oil? Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio repeated once again the claim that "we're in Iraq for oil," something always denied by the Bush administration and hardly supported by the record. In only one month since the invasion has Iraqi oil production risen above its pre-war levels, and production today still lags far behind pre-war output, according to the Brookings Iraq Index. If the U.S. really went in for oil, it has so far gotten less, not more.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/democratic_candidates_debate.html

Trau wrote:

# In Iraq for Oil? Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio repeated once again the claim that "we're in Iraq for oil," something always denied by the Bush administration and hardly supported by the record. In only one month since the invasion has Iraqi oil production risen above its pre-war levels, and production today still lags far behind pre-war output, according to the Brookings Iraq Index. If the U.S. really went in for oil, it has so far gotten less, not more.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/democratic_candidates_debate.html

It's about WHO CONTROLS the oil production and WHO PROFITS from it.
It is not about the amount of oil produced.



Revealed: Why Your Sons and Daughters Died in Iraq


May 27, 2007
by Cliff Carson

Could it be that our soldiers died to enrich five or six International Oil Companies (Four of them American)? Or that possibly a million Iraqis suffered the same fate for the same reason? You might recall that President Bush claimed that one of the Benchmarks the Iraqi Government must meet is a deal to share the Oil revenues. What he didn't say is with whom they, the Iraqis, will have to share. Seems like it's not the Iraqis.

This is according to a speech by Dennis Kucinich last week, well not all of it was a speech; some of it was a reading of the Oil deal that Bush is saying Iraqi must sign. And was the reported deal ever an eye opener!

Seems that those International Oil Companies (can you say EXXON, MOBILE, and BP for starters), stand to pluck the Iraqi people for about $21 Trillion. Folks that's twenty one thousand BILLION. In perspective, that's about double the United States current cash debt, and a little over 40% of the accrued National Debt of $50 Trillion. Figured another way, it's about $70,000 for every American currently alive. And it will all go to about six Oil companies. Well not all, there's the Congress to be bought off, actually it seems they already have, but they still need to get a little more of the harvest.

These are the guys that brought you $3.25 gas and rising. Once they corner the Oil market what might gas cost? How many of your family members are you willing to send to their death so that these Oil companies might get just a little bit richer? For every Human being who has died, American Soldier and Iraqi Citizen, these companies stand to rake in about $21,000,000. And just think, their cohorts got to furnish the War materials, and they made off with upwards of a Trillion dollars already. Damn, what a profitable business this war mongering is! For the few that is. For us common folk, it's deadly.

How did I come to these figures? Well according to the Oil deal that Bush says must be signed, Kucinich reports that the deal requires that the Oil Companies get control of over 80% of the Iraqi Oil fields. The CEO's of those Companies have complete control of every aspect of the oil for 35 years into the future. Iraq gets to keep 17 oil fields, but even for these fields, operational control is in the hands of the International Oil companies.

Specifics wrote:

A. War on terror

B. Threat of WMD

C. Freedom/Welfare of the Iraqi people

D. Totally in its own selfish interest

E. Other ( please give brief explanation)

A. To an extent, thats more the fruits of a number of other factors

B. I can understand that, considering the amount of insecure nuclear facilities, and the amounts of nuclear material unaccounted for.
Plus with all that desert and infinite funds, who says some evil shit isnt hidden somewhere ?

C. For some, yes, for others, just brutal division of loyalty.

D. Somewhat, its all very cartoon like really, I see Rocky and Bullwinkle as very prophetic in this whole smelly war scene. Only everyone involved has a bit of Boris Badenoff (sp) in them, some more than others.

E. Paranoia, and the need to attempt to be the ruling faction on planet earth born out of the fact that in the minds of many americans, theres this blind belief that they themselves are THE superiour race on earth.
Plus oil is economy. Its like forcefully taking over someones house and eating all their chocolate biscuts and expecting them to be glad about it.

the thing that motivated the war in iraq is the same thing that motivated every war since columbus. Greed, money, power, hegemony, imperialistic ambitions and the desire to have the entire world populated and devoloped and under the control of the united states of corporations and CEOS