Tasered UF student

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  • PahkTheCah
    PahkTheCah Posts: 193
    CatchyPJUserName wrote:
    He was given a chance to speak... he wasn't censored. The fact that he continued to speak when his time was up, then to cause a scene, cut into other people's chance to speak... in effect, he was censoring everyone else by only letting them hear his questions and opinions...


    Well put.

    I will say this though, watching people get tazed far surpasses my love for watching people trip and fall.
  • Freakshow
    Freakshow Posts: 8
    Funk the po-lease. No, but seriously, they had to taze because if they hadn't we would have seen a fair fight (one 6'3" young stud with a hard-on against three FORMER jocks and Judy Garland). Everyone knows police officers have to avoid fair fights; as soon as the cops start losing fights on CNN anarchy breaks out all over this Spike Lee joint. What?

    By the way have you ever noticed that in the "Police Oath Thing" they don't specify who they agree to "serve and protect"? hmmm....
  • lowlight10
    lowlight10 Posts: 619
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    What exactly is a cop's IQ???

    I have friends who are cops and am considering being one myself. All have college degrees. All have high IQs.. You're making a big fucking generalization.

    Hanging people for giving out a shock of electricity? Get real. They were excessive, but a slap on the wrist or suspension would do.


    Ocean, why would you even bother responding to an ignorant statement like JamMaster's? dont waste your energy.

    the guy causing a scene was absolutely anticipated and that was his purpose. they said that he runs a political blog and posts politically based videos on youtube. obviosuly this guy knows that the questions at these things are usually pre-screened and asking a question like "did you belong to the skull and bones society?" is not going to be answered. he was there with the intention of causing trouble. yes, he deserved to be tazered. then he said that he thought the cops were gonna kill him if he left with them. give me a break.
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    lowlight10 wrote:
    Ocean, why would you even bother responding to an ignorant statement like JamMaster's? dont waste your energy.


    don't point your fucking finger at me.

    ignorance is thinking that this behavior by police is exceptable.

    i guess we should all lay down and submit!

    fucking jellyfish,you're helping to destroy this country!!!!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • Chris1401
    Chris1401 Posts: 354
    Was the guy an idiot...yes

    Was he threatening other students, Kerry or the cops...no

    Should the cops have removed him and dealt with it in hallway outside...yes

    Should a taser be used when you have an unarmed "protestor" who has no violated a law and is already being subdubed by five cops? Hell no.

    That's where my problem lies. This guy was nuts, however there were no grounds for the taser. Those things are not a proven alternative to anything...they can kill and certainly this young man deserved to be removed, but not tasered and possibly killed.

    Just another misjudgement by our supposed finest.
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    Chris1401 wrote:
    Was the guy an idiot...yes

    Was he threatening other students, Kerry or the cops...no

    Should the cops have removed him and dealt with it in hallway outside...yes

    he is an idiot for asking questions that the media whores won't dare to ask?

    gee,i guess George Washington was an idiot for opposing king George?

    what happened to the people in this country? we are a nation of sheep.
    it makes me sick.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,323
    CatchyPJUserName wrote:
    no, the videos they are showing only show him being dragged and (deservingly) shocked. He was given the microphone. He had his say. His time ran out. He decided to continue to speak, thereby cutting into other people's time. He was censoring everyone else in the room by not letting them have their turn to speak.

    Are you sure they weren't applauding because the authorities were getting rid of a nuisance?

    he wasn't cutting into anyone's time, ecpect john kerry's maybe. hte guy that asked a question before the man we are talking about was supposedly the last one, as the speech and question and answer thing was over. this dude asked for a chance to speak as well, and kerry granted it. it was the cops who were trying to shut him up, not kerry. kerry said to let him finish. then 6 people dragged 1 dude around and tazed him.
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  • Two Birds
    Two Birds Posts: 256
    SPALMA wrote:
    my son (who is also a PJ fan) and a UF senior marched in a protest on campus yesterday. (I am proud of that!)

    I think the taser-ee was an ass and the taser-ors were only justified because of the prevalent "zero tolerance" mode we have been in since 9-11. I don't agree, and we need to change this - but the police were operating within now accepted parameters.

    I am more worried about the recent censorings (PJ internet show) and Sally Fields (network).


    Well said and I agree.
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  • pjsyco
    pjsyco Wilmington, NC Posts: 652
    JamMastaE wrote:
    don't point your fucking finger at me.

    ignorance is thinking that this behavior by police is exceptable.

    i guess we should all lay down and submit!

    fucking jellyfish,you're helping to destroy this country!!!!

    Before you question someone's I.Q., why don't you learn to spell acceptable....I say tase away, the jerk deserved it.
  • Lizardking
    Lizardking Posts: 936
    Not sure who I'm voting for next time, but this didn't help John Kerry's case!!


    Let the guy speak, he asked good questions, I hate politicians, they are all fucking crooks!!!
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    pjsyco wrote:
    Before you question someone's I.Q., why don't you learn to spell acceptable....I say tase away, the jerk deserved it.



    the old spelling error dig...

    anyway. if you like police brutality then you will love living in the police state that we have become.

    i can't believe how many spineless idiots there are around here "err i support police brutality over freedom of speech"

    "tase away"??!!
    Karma will come for you.

    you don't know shit about the Constitution or freedom.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Chris1401 wrote:
    Was the guy an idiot...yes

    Was he threatening other students, Kerry or the cops...no

    Should the cops have removed him and dealt with it in hallway outside...yes

    Should a taser be used when you have an unarmed "protestor" who has no violated a law and is already being subdubed by five cops? Hell no.

    That's where my problem lies. This guy was nuts, however there were no grounds for the taser. Those things are not a proven alternative to anything...they can kill and certainly this young man deserved to be removed, but not tasered and possibly killed.

    Just another misjudgement by our supposed finest.

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I can't believe how many sadistic facists we have on this board. Unbelievable.
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    gue_barium wrote:
    I can't believe how many sadistic facists we have on this board. Unbelievable.


    they are the same assholes that think Eddie should "shut up and sing"

    FUCK 'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • CatchyPJUserName
    CatchyPJUserName Posts: 17
    gue_barium wrote:
    I can't believe how many sadistic facists we have on this board. Unbelievable.

    I can't believe how many anarchists and criminals we have on this board... Seems to me like we need more "sadistic facists" to help keep order in society.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Disturbing the peace and resisting arrest seem like a pretty good reason for the police to use force. The guy wasn't there to ask a question, he was there to create a scene. Plus you have to remember that Kerry is still a senator and his a higher level of security around him than your average person. Besides personally if I was resisting arrest (not that I would be dumb enough to) I would rather take a tazer than a crack or 2 on the head with a baton.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    CatchyPJUserName wrote:
    I can't believe how many anarchists and criminals we have on this board... Seems to me like we need more "sadistic facists" to help keep order in society.

    I guess you admit it. Gotta keep an eye on you, I suppose.








    But more than likely you're easier ignored.
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    CatchyPJUserName wrote:
    I can't believe how many anarchists and criminals we have on this board... Seems to me like we need more "sadistic facists" to help keep order in society.

    anarchists and criminals??????

    that's what tyrants call those who disobey.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • CatchyPJUserName
    CatchyPJUserName Posts: 17
    gue_barium wrote:
    I guess you admit it. Gotta keep an eye on you, I suppose.








    But more than likely you're easier ignored.

    Yup, you got it! Well... maybe not sadistic...
    (unless you are now ignoring me)

    Our laws are good and fair. If you don't want to be tasered, pepper sprayed, or harassed by the police... stop breaking the law!
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    JamMastaE wrote:
    they are the same assholes that think Eddie should "shut up and sing"

    FUCK 'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Not necessarily. I think Eddie should say whatever he wants at his shows. I agree with him in most cases.. This tasered kid's time was up. Sure he didn't deserve that taser, but kicking him out was acceptable.

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