Some American soldiers playing with a dog

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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Collin wrote:
    You're quite the tough guy.

    So I've been told.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Jamal wrote:
    BTW: blowing up dead stuff (animals in this case) is no big deal...
    But would you have done the same to a healthy, live dog?


    Of course not, I'm not sick.

    Right?
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Saturnal wrote:
    I know you're not saying that just American soldiers are the ones who are doing these things, but you're only pointing at them.

    ah , true. But remember that the you tube kids are not part of an occupying army. With so much blind soldier worship in the country they are from. I think it's important to always show them in the true light. They are not all some innocent young kids who got shipped off to war, we should remember that at the end of the day, they still chose to go. If they were against the war and still went, obvioulsy jail time scared them more than having to kill innocent people.

    But perhaps that is for another thread, as far as this one goes, the video is about a group of american soldiers abuse towards an animal. I did'nt search for this video, it was posted on another website and I thought that it should be seen by more people.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    but think I've seen this....troops shoot dog...he goes down...blood pumping out of the wound???? If this is it.....the heartbreaking thing was when the owner comes out.....watches as his beloved dog dies....looks at the Americans, raises his arms as to say...how could you do this??? At that point you realize the Iraqi's are humans just like us and love the same things we do...and makes you understand the hatred some have towards the US. For you SOB's that think this is funny or get amusement from this post..your sad humans....really sad.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    callen wrote:
    but think I've seen this....troops shoot dog...he goes down...blood pumping out of the wound???? If this is it.....the heartbreaking thing was when the owner comes out.....watches as his beloved dog dies....looks at the Americans, raises his arms as to say...how could you do this??? At that point you realize the Iraqi's are humans just like us and love the same things we do...and makes you understand the hatred some have towards the US. For you SOB's that think this is funny or get amusement from this post..your sad humans....really sad. And if the poster that said he blew up dead dogs for fun...well fella..you need some help. Seriously.

    no, the dog is near death and the troops shoot near it, I think, but do not hit it. the dog limps away. the dog though was already crippled and dying. would have done the dog a favor by killing it. sad but true. now the dog has to starve to death in pain.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    My wife is a social worker and one of the questions at intake (to help diagnose) is "have you ever harmed animals." This is not directed at hunting, but at whether or not people torture animals for amusement. Perhaps it is an indication of sociopathy or some other mental illness.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    MrBrian wrote:
    ah , true. But remember that the you tube kids are not part of an occupying army. With so much blind soldier worship in the country they are from. I think it's important to always show them in the true light. They are not all some innocent young kids who got shipped off to war, we should remember that at the end of the day, they still chose to go. If they were against the war and still went, obvioulsy jail time scared them more than having to kill innocent people.

    But perhaps that is for another thread, as far as this one goes, the video is about a group of american soldiers abuse towards an animal. I did'nt search for this video, it was posted on another website and I thought that it should be seen by more people.

    adn don't disagree with your analysis of "blind worship soldiers" but war sucks..it fks up the mind....and when you take any young men from any background..and they see death and destruction on daily basis it does change their behavior......I don't blame the troops for their actions as much as those that brought them there. Not talking about this particular video mind you but in general. I just wish we could take George, his administration and all their family members...prop open their eyes with toothpicks and make them watch the carnage they've created.....okay..I feel much better now.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    callen wrote:
    but think I've seen this....troops shoot dog...he goes down...blood pumping out of the wound???? If this is it.....the heartbreaking thing was when the owner comes out.....watches as his beloved dog dies....looks at the Americans, raises his arms as to say...how could you do this??? At that point you realize the Iraqi's are humans just like us and love the same things we do...and makes you understand the hatred some have towards the US. For you SOB's that think this is funny or get amusement from this post..your sad humans....really sad. And if the poster that said he blew up dead dogs for fun...well fella..you need some help. Seriously.


    I never said I did it for fun, it was my job!
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no, the dog is near death and the troops shoot near it, I think, but do not hit it. the dog limps away. the dog though was already crippled and dying. would have done the dog a favor by killing it. sad but true. now the dog has to starve to death in pain.

    The dog was crippled, I does'nt mean that it was near death, but even if it was, who in their right mind does what they were doing? Don't act like the soldiers were trying to help the animal. I mean they even video taped it.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrBrian wrote:
    The dog was crippled, I does'nt mean that it was near death,
    so your teliing me that dog was healthy?
    MrBrian wrote:
    but even if it was, who in their right mind does what they were doing?
    what they were doing is wrong. wrong enough for you to make a thread about it? um ok
    MrBrian wrote:
    Don't act like the soldiers were trying to help the animal.
    I'm not, I said they would have helped the animal by killing it
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no, the dog is near death and the troops shoot near it, I think, but do not hit it. the dog limps away. the dog though was already crippled and dying. would have done the dog a favor by killing it. sad but true. now the dog has to starve to death in pain.

    thanks for clarify. The video I saw showed some troops that were staking out a compound...a dog...50 yard away was barking to protect his master...as all dogs do....one of the soldiers shoots the dog...you could hear the soldiers partners asking...why did you do that. Tough tough. But....I don't put blame on many of the actions of the soldiers as they're in a fked up situation.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    callen wrote:
    adn don't disagree with your analysis of "blind worship soldiers" but war sucks..it fks up the mind....and when you take any young men from any background..and they see death and destruction on daily basis it does change their behavior......I don't blame the troops for their actions as much as those that brought them there. Not talking about this particular video mind you but in general. I just wish we could take George, his administration and all their family members...prop open their eyes with toothpicks and make them watch the carnage they've created.....okay..I feel much better now.

    of course, it's very sad to see a healthy mind destroyed by war. many soldiers coming back with all sorts of health issues and what not.

    But I still question them going, at the end, they still went. It's not like they were tied up and dropped off in iraq.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    sapperskunk wrote:
    I never said I did it for fun, it was my job!

    sorry about the remark.....will retract and edit my post.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so your teliing me that dog was healthy?

    what they were doing is wrong. wrong enough for you to make a thread about it? um ok I'm not, I said they would have helped the animal by killing it

    No, I even mentioned that it was crippled, but that does not mean near death. yes, wrong enough to make a thread about it.

    they should've just left it alone. But if it was near death, yes, shoot it in the head then walk away. But they did'nt do that, that's the point, this is the thread of what they chose to do. now they are all over the net and I hope will get punished for the animal abuse, just like anyone else in america would get punished for it. especially if they taped it.
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    callen wrote:
    sorry about the remark.....will retract and edit my post.


    no problem amigo, here's a clip of something similiar to what I was doing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMWsypxAJzg
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    MrBrian wrote:
    of course, it's very sad to see a healthy mind destroyed by war. many soldiers coming back with all sorts of health issues and what not.

    But I still question them going, at the end, they still went. It's not like they were tied up and dropped off in iraq.

    always have been....but soldiers, when they sign up take an oath..and I respect them for honoring that oath....I don't blame soldiers for going to Iraq....I honor them..all of them for doing this crap..and know several that have gone over there...my nephew included and I thank them endlessly.........now our leaders..well that's another matter.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    and "callen", when you can, watch the video and see for yourself what was going on.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    MrBrian wrote:
    and "callen", when you can, watch the video and see for yourself what was going on.
    when I get home...but even in cases where American soldiers have raped, killed or tortured Iraqi's....I put alot of the blame on US administration for putting them in that environment.......but they do need to face justice.
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  • BarkingDogs
    BarkingDogs Posts: 280
    miller8966 wrote:
    I want our soldiers to be killers...not tree hugging hippies.

    so...you are saying they are tree hugging hippies if they help an injured animal...generally, i have no problem with our soldiers...and i have been supportive of this war....i have had family members and friends fighting over there...but if they came home and showed me footage like this...and they were the perpetrators...i would punch them right between the goddamned eyes....this is just sick fucking behavior...period. these soldiers need to be disciplined for this behavior.....you can be a "killer soldier" and still act like a fucking human being.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    callen wrote:
    always have been....but soldiers, when they sign up take an oath..and I respect them for honoring that oath....I don't blame soldiers for going to Iraq....I honor them..all of them for doing this crap..and know several that have gone over there...my nephew included and I thank them endlessly.........now our leaders..well that's another matter.

    For me, i'd rather go to jail than go and kill people because of an oath I took that said nothing about fighting unjust wars and destroying a country.

    I can and will never honor someone who just follows orders, I know only 2 soldiers, one went to iraq and came back with a stress fracuture? and the other who left the army because he refused to be part of what the army was doing.

    But I understand your view and i'll leave it at that.

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