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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    It's a shame when a thread that could have spurred an interesting discussion of a serious topic degenerates into name-calling bullshit and arguments over irrelevant issues.

    Thanks a lot, macgyver.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    hippiemom wrote:
    It's a shame when a thread that could have spurred an interesting discussion of a serious topic degenerates into name-calling bullshit and arguments over irrelevant issues.

    Thanks a lot, macgyver.

    hehe add another one to the list!

    FOREVER MISINFORMED!! and loving it!!

    lets not actually try and figure out why its ok to get shot by an 18 yr old but not a 12 yr old
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you really dont know?

    how about maturity, live experience, brain development. to name a few.

    whats the difference between a 3 year old and 45 year old?

    When it comes to war... they all are lost and all bleed the same... Its as tragic for an 18 year old as for a 12 year old...

    sure it sucks - and it seems insane to see a 12 year old with a gun.. its the same to me with 18 year olds...

    I would feel as ill knowing my sons - now 18 were at war - as I would have if they were 12...

    at 18 they are better able to look out for themselves, unfortunately in war you are forced to let others do that.. at 12 or at 18
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Abuskedti wrote:
    When it comes to war... they all are lost and all bleed the same... Its as tragic for an 18 year old as for a 12 year old...

    sure it sucks - and it seems insane to see a 12 year old with a gun.. its the same to me with 18 year olds...

    I would feel as ill knowing my sons - now 18 were at war - as I would have if they were 12...

    at 18 they are better able to look out for themselves, unfortunately in war you are forced to let others do that.. at 12 or at 18

    remember when our girls couldn't go to war for that reason..oh HOW WE BEND THOUGH!!!
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    is it the AK47 that is being used or modifications..or AK47 Siblings....there's no way the AK47 is being used and in production, these have to be different guns
    Why do you think that the AK-47 is not still in production..........it is the most successful firearm ever created in terms of numbers produced. It is designed to be cheap (a major factor in 3rd world countries), easy to operate (see previous comment), have an extremely field life (see previous comment) and rugged (see previous comment again). Nearly every former Soviet client state has produced their own version in their home country....this includes the former Yugoslavia, Albania and now the former Soviet republics.

    Every weapon produced as probably had some field modifications done to it at some point.

    Nope..........these are the same weapon.........the AK-47.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    macgyver06 wrote:
    hehe add another one to the list!

    FOREVER MISINFORMED!! and loving it!!

    lets not actually try and figure out why its ok to get shot by an 18 yr old but not a 12 yr old
    I was referring to you being on the losing side of a 4-page argument about AK47s (they are still being produced, and are probably the most widely-used weapon in the world), and resorting to name-calling rather than citing facts and sources. If your goal is to inform people, you're doing a piss-poor job of it ... you've provided no information whatsoever.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    tybird wrote:
    Why do you think that the AK-47 is not still in production..........it is the most successful firearm ever created in terms of numbers produced. It is designed to be cheap (a major factor in 3rd world countries), easy to operate (see previous comment), have an extremely field life (see previous comment) and rugged (see previous comment again). Nearly every former Soviet client state has produced their own version in their home country....this includes the former Yugoslavia, Albania and now the former Soviet republics.

    Every weapon produced as probably had some field modifications done to it at some point.

    Nope..........these are the same weapon.........the AK-47.

    do producers use other names for this gun?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    hippiemom wrote:
    I was referring to you being on the losing side of a 4-page argument about AK47s (they are still being produced, and are probably the most widely-used weapon in the world), and resorting to name-calling rather than citing facts and sources. If your goal is to inform people, you're doing a piss-poor job of it ... you've provided no information whatsoever.

    you have the disease to huh?? im not trying to win an argument. i never said they are not being produced...but they are phasing them out
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    do producers use other names for this gun?
    Not sure.......it is possible that they give a different name, but the weapon is still an AK-47.

    These things are so cheap and so prevalent that I could have purchased one (illegally) off the street in Birmingham, Alabama for right around $100 in 1990.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you have the disease to huh?? im not trying to win an argument. i never said they are not being produced...but they are phasing them out
    The Russians maybe...........and possibly the Chinese, but I suspect that the North Koreans aren't investing in small arms design. The fact that there were billions of these weapons produced over the decades means that they aren't going away anytime soon.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    tybird wrote:
    Not sure.......it is possible that they give a different name, but the weapon is still an AK-47.

    These things are so cheap and so prevalent that I could have purchased one (illegally) off the street in Birmingham, Alabama for right around $100 in 1990.

    i dont understand though...if its not an actual gas powered AK47 how can they call it an AK47..are they all gas powered?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    tybird wrote:
    The Russians maybe...........and possibly the Chinese, but I suspect that the North Koreans aren't investing in small arms design. The fact that there were billions of these weapons produced over the decades means that they aren't going away anytime soon.

    theres no way in hell you could get me behind a gas powered fire maker..lol
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i dont understand though...if its not an actual gas powered AK47 how can they call it an AK47..are they all gas powered?
    They are all the same basic design created in the 1940s. It's just like car designs shared by manufacturers such as the Ford Escape SUV and whatever the Mazda version was called. There were a few cosmetic differences, but at the heart of the design they were the exact same vehicle.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    theres no way in hell you could get me behind a gas powered fire maker..lol
    You're not fighting a war on the cheap then...........are you? :D
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    tybird wrote:
    They are all the same basic design created in the 1940s. It's just like car designs shared by manufacturers such as the Ford Escape SUV and whatever the Mazda version was called. There were a few cosmetic differences, but at the heart of the design they were the exact same vehicle.

    lol..Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant both INDESTRUCTIBLE!
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you have the disease to huh?? im not trying to win an argument. i never said they are not being produced...but they are phasing them out
    You said that they are "not a contender in any wars going on right now," which is ridiculous.

    Anyway, I'm through with this thread ... 5 pages now, and you've still not provided even one little snippet of information, or even a coherent opinion.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    hippiemom wrote:
    You said that they are "not a contender in any wars going on right now," which is ridiculous.

    Anyway, I'm through with this thread ... 5 pages now, and you've still not provided even one little snippet of information, or even a coherent opinion.

    compared to the rifles out there...the rifles we use..and explosives...i dont think the AK47 stands a chance against them... THAT IS NOT RIDICULOUS!
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    The Ak is unreliable..it gets hot to the point you cant pick it up becasue its gas powered...its not very accurate...its dangerous to! these things explode in your hand in sustained fire..

    but its bullets are the size of your mom..thats the only advantage which isnt anything nowadays..
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    When it comes to war... they all are lost and all bleed the same... Its as tragic for an 18 year old as for a 12 year old...
    and just as tragic for a 25, 35, 45 year old. thats not the point. no one is claiming its less/more tragic.
    Abuskedti wrote:
    sure it sucks - and it seems insane to see a 12 year old with a gun.. its the same to me with 18 year olds...
    again, how about a 31 year old?
    Abuskedti wrote:
    I would feel as ill knowing my sons - now 18 were at war - as I would have if they were 12...
    wouldnt you be more confident in knowing your 18 year old was out there then 12? the mental and physical matureness is 10 fold. not in all cases, but most.
    Abuskedti wrote:
    at 18 they are better able to look out for themselves, unfortunately in war you are forced to let others do that.. at 12 or at 18
    forced to let others look out for you? what the hell does that mean? 18 year old can look out for themselves MUCH better then 12. that is a fact.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    macgyver06 wrote:
    The Ak is unreliable..it gets hot to the point you cant pick it up becasue its gas powered...its not very accurate...its dangerous to! these things explode in your hand in sustained fire..

    but its bullets are the size of your mom..thats the only advantage which isnt anything nowadays..
    you really are an expert on this issue. you seriously should consider being a consultant for rogue states and army militias

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