SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate Dec 1st deadline
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 he's from PA, for god sakes enough said. The politicians there wanted to explore spygate!RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Either way...crazy stupid or not. It's real...it's happening....and the deadline for ol howdy do is Dec 1'st.
 Point in case...please try to contain the hate 
 "Phillip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania, USA, is the former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General.
 Berg has involved himself with causes that he believes are in adherence with the US Constitution. He challenged President Bush on his right to conduct a war against terror and another against Saddam Hussein with only a congressional authorization.
 The case was appealed to the Supreme Court to suspend the election on Nov 4th. The supreme court denied his petition, but required the defendants to reply by December 1st."
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_J._BergLet's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken0
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            NOCODE#1 wrote:not over our heads, we have the capacity to see through bullshit.
 Then it just went right over your had too.
 I was referring to the anger people eagerly shovel out of their mouths when they are getting informed which was the context of discussion at that point.
 I know very well this certificate thing is a flimsy pathetic argument. Duh...No kidding.
 I post the FACTUAL info and then watch people run around pulling their hair out and foaming at the mouth. I can easily see why some voted for Obama just by observing their habits and thought patterns in what they post.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:I know very well this certificate thing is a flimsy pathetic argument. Duh...No kidding.
 Roland, why waste your time and others posting something you describe as 'a flimsy pathetic argument'? Why not post valid grievances concerning Obama and spark intelligent debate? Is this an attempt at trolling, trying to get folks to 'run around pulling their hair out and foaming at the mouth' (your words)? You know, it is possible to debate different ideological differences without personal insults. Sometimes it can even end up being a very interesting intellectual exercise where respect is gained from both sides.The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
 but the illusion of knowledge.
 ~Daniel Boorstin
 Only a life lived for others is worth living.
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            baraka wrote:Roland, why waste your time and others posting something you describe as 'a flimsy pathetic argument'? Why not post valid grievances concerning Obama and spark intelligent debate? Is this an attempt at trolling, trying to get folks to 'run around pulling their hair out and foaming at the mouth' (your words)? You know, it is possible to debate different ideological differences without personal insults. Sometimes it can even end up being a very interesting intellectual exercise where respect is gained from both sides.
 I guess you didn't read much of the thread. I haven't insulted anyone, and I can't control how people objectively process information and react to it.
 Yes. It is possible to debate ideological differences with out resorting to personal insults. I agree. Why you're pointing at me while saying it is something I have yet to understand.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Hey, big suprise...it's not my law suit. Small minds shoot the messenger. In any event...it's happening, now you know about it.
 You post about it all the time- all the fucking time. Don't you have a job?0
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            searchlightsoul wrote:You post about it all the time- all the fucking time. Don't you have a job?
 The information and story is what it is bro.
 Take the hate somewhere else.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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 ok, explain your interpretation of my perceived interersts....NOCODE#1 wrote:people respond to controversial posts. its kind of been like that since the beginning. Your perceived interest in how vehemently someone defends obama is open to interpretation.0
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            Why can't some people look at a story and/or the information and make up their minds and leave it at that?
 It's never that simple for some reason. It always gets personal, like as though I personally am the one responsible for the situation and everything behind it.
 Yes... I am Philip J Berg....
 :rolleyes:Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            This is such b.s.!
 Keep grasping at straws haters! 365 !!!!!!!!! GET OVER IT!
 Why can't it just be enough to see that this man brings people together? The whole world is celebrating his victory...why do the losers have to try and ruin it?"Had my eyes peeled both wide open, and I got a glimpse...of my innocense, got back my inner sence, baby got it...still got it"0
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            RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Why can't some people look at a story and/or the information and make up their minds and leave it at that?
 It's never that simple for some reason. It always gets personal, like as though I personally am the one responsible for the situation and everything behind it.
 Yes... I am Philip J Berg....
 :rolleyes:
 Because the debate is stupid and baseless, and when people call it stupid, you fan the flames by implying they're sheep for thinking so. Then when people get mad at you for fanning the flames, you put your hands up and say "hey, don't get mad at me bro, I was just posting the facts!" You intentionally post about a dumb debate and then act condescending towards those who call it a dumb debate.
 Don't act like you're completely innocent here. Please. :rolleyes:It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0
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            DOSW wrote:Because the debate is stupid and baseless, and when people call it stupid, you fan the flames by implying they're sheep for thinking so. Then when people get mad at you for fanning the flames, you put your hands up and say "hey, don't get mad at me bro, I was just posting the facts!" You intentionally post about a dumb debate and then act condescending towards those who call it a dumb debate.
 Don't act like you're completely innocent here. Please. :rolleyes:
 I'm not implying people are sheep. There is an underlying constitutional rights issue to this story, so it's hardly trivial in that sense. This is also the same guy that challenged President Bush on his right to conduct a war against terror and against Saddam Hussein with only a congressional authorization. He was right about that scenario. I say let's see what evidence he has at the very least. It should be his constitutional right to do so. Right?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
 over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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            RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Why can't some people look at a story and/or the information and make up their minds and leave it at that?
 It's never that simple for some reason. It always gets personal, like as though I personally am the one responsible for the situation and everything behind it.
 Yes... I am Philip J Berg....
 :rolleyes:
 It was hardly as though you posted the information and then just stepped back to let people discuss it.0
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            searchlightsoul wrote:It was hardly as though you posted the information and then just stepped back to let people discuss it.
 What are you still upset over? I didn't come in until 23 posts after my original to quickly add the date, and some humor afterwards. After that it was about serving off the cynicism with information that was most likely entirely skipped over. It's a borderline silly story with a underlying twist. One person got it, and I joked around with them. What do you want? It's an odd story. Why the uptight?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            dunkman wrote:
 But can they fake it and never get caught is the question. Particularly if you're immediately recognisable (world famous) right?
 time being inversely proportional to probability and all thatProgress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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            RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:But can they fake it and never get caught is the question. Particularly if you're immediately recognisable (world famous) right?
 time being inversely proportional to probability and all that
 jim morrison was really on famous in the us and maybe the UK... in France he was just another fat randy drunk bearded drunk guy... pretty much describes 87% of all the male 'cheese-eating surrender monkeys' that doesn't it? oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0 oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0
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            dunkman wrote:jim morrison was really on famous in the us and maybe the UK... in France he was just another fat randy drunk bearded drunk guy... pretty much describes 87% of all the male 'cheese-eating surrender monkeys' that doesn't it? 
 hahahhaahaaa. Dude that cracked me up.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            Ian_L wrote:I've always been against this "natural born citizen" BS.
 Who gives a rat's ass what country someone was born in?
 from what i hear this is flimsy at best but if its a non-issue, then why has it become as issue? just show the damn thing and get it over with0
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            NOCODE#1 wrote:ABC, CBS, FOX, Shit Michael savage aint saying shit about this...... its over. do you own an hd-dvd player?
 Michael Savage?!?....sheeit dog...well then it quite simply doesn't exist dude.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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            It all makes sense now...News wrote:CHICAGO—In a devastating blow to millions of unsuspecting Americans, newly elected president and international con man Barack Obama fled the country Wednesday with nearly $85 million in campaign funds.
 According to FBI investigators, Obama's sudden disappearance was discovered at 6:15 p.m. when the former Illinois senator failed to arrive at a gala event in Lincoln Square, prompting several aides to rush back to his campaign headquarters. At 6:23 p.m., flight logs at O'Hare International Airport confirmed that two passengers, a male carrying two silver briefcases and dressed in a perfectly tailored Brioni tuxedo, and an African-American female wearing a fur coat and speaking in a thick Russian accent, were seen boarding a private plane.
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 Click to read the note left behind by Obama, in which he claims the American public "never stood a chance."
 Obama's campaign office, sources said, was completely vacant aside from a discarded Abraham Lincoln portrait, behind which was an emptied safe that his aides claimed never to have seen before.
 In addition, three unconscious Secret Service agents were discovered at the scene, along with two lit cigarettes still burning in an ashtray, and Obama's daughters, who authorities now believe were taken from an Alabama foster home six years ago.
 The only item found inside the metal safe was a letter, handwritten with a fountain pen and titled "An Explanation, My Dears."
 "To my tender little pawns, the all-too-trusting people of America," said FBI lead investigator Ray Hilland, quoting the letter at a press conference Wednesday. "If you are reading this, then I have already left your silly country in my private jet, and am right now sipping fine champagne with my lovely associate, a woman you have come to know as 'Michelle.'"
 "I assure you, this was the most pleasurable and fulfilling con I have ever pulled off," the note continued. "Not since the Moroccan elections in 1984 have I taken so much joy in raising, and then crushing, the hopes and dreams of so many pathetic, disenfranchised, and downtrodden people."
 "It's been an absolute delight doing business with you. Rest assured, your generous contributions will be well spent," the note concluded. "Fondly yours, Ψ."
 After initiating a further search of his campaign office, officials found more than two dozen counterfeit passports inside Obama's desk drawer. Authorities suspect that this is not the first time that the man who inspired millions has preyed upon a leadership-starved country, raised a record amount of money by running for office, and then vanished without a trace.
 "This explains Portugal in '86, Finland in '94, and Greece in '90," CIA director Michael Hayden said. "He used the same faultless cover in those elections as he did here—a dead mother, a runaway father, a grandfather who fought in Patton's or Järnefelt's or Papdopoulous' army, and his signature calling card: change."
 Multiple translations of Obama's books Dreams From My Father and The Audacity Of Hope were also discovered at the scene, each seemingly authored by a different world leader, including former Malaysian president Mohamad Mahathir, former Belgian prime minister Jean-Luc Dehaene, and the 14th Dalai Lama.
 Of particular interest were the titles Les Rêves De Mon Père and L'audace D'espére, both of which feature a cover photo of French president Nicolas Sarkozy, a man Paris officials claim hasn't been seen or heard from in nearly eight months.
 According to investigators, it appears that over the past 15 years, Obama has been elected president or prime minister in nearly 45 countries, many of them African. Officials estimate that since 1983 Obama has amassed more than $2.3 billion in stolen campaign financing.
 "He's good, real good," Hayden said. "Sometimes he'll have three campaigns going on at once. Recently uncovered video of him in Bangladesh, Ukraine, and Italy in 1989 shows him shifting seamlessly between three languages. And no matter what dialect he speaks, he speaks it passionately. He also abides by a flawless formula: a desperate country, plus hope, plus the promise of a bold new tomorrow equals big bucks."
 "Hell, even I donated the $2,400 to his campaign," he added.
 Obama's closest aides, including head campaign strategist David Axelrod, admitted that they never once suspected their candidate was anyone other than who he claimed to be. Nevertheless, Axelrod said that the recent revelation did explain why he once overheard Michelle Obama tell her husband that "the time had come for their coup de grâce."
 "He completely suckered me," said a visibly dejected vice president-elect Joe Biden, who estimated that he raised over $10 million for Obama. "I trusted him. Change, 'Yes We Can,' a new kind of politics, bringing the nation together, valuing an open dialogue about the issues—I trusted all of it."
 Added Biden, "I should have known it was too good to be true."
 Everyday Americans, whom Obama referred to as "so many unwitting chess pieces in my elaborate game," also expressed shock Wednesday.
 "I'm devastated," Pennsylvania resident and Obama donor Denise Bell told reporters. "I just hope he comes back soon so he can be our president."
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