If you were involved in a conspiracy, how much would it take for you to keep silent ?

RolandTD20Kdrummer
RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Say for example you did some work for the government, and then realized you're were embroiled in a conspiracy where something very terrible happened, and a lot of people died?

You're already working for the government in either a military capacity, or as a contractor, or hold position in office.

You are approached by a rather deadly serious group individuals from the FBI, CIA on more than a few occasions. You may even be told to go somewhere with them and witness a crime (murder or be involved unknowingly in drug trafficking) of which you are now told you may go to jail for the rest of your life if you get any ideas that go against national security, and some members of your family might not live so long if you get the bright idea to waste your time going public, where everyone will call you crazy anyways, and your life (and entire families reputation) will be destroyed. Also none of what you say will ever get into the media..

As well...the amount of hatred directed towards you (and your family) for the rest of your lives will probably make you want to kill yourself.

Now...would you talk or keep silent?
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I'd get plastic surgery and move to Bali.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Almost forgot.

    Money is also deposited knowingly by you into your bank account, which has ties to criminal activity making you an accomplice...your word against theirs.

    If you decide you don't like being wealthy for some reason, you will get completely obliterated in court in a game of he said/she said should you decide to try to prove anything. This money is tied to illegal activity that took place, of which you were present at the time, and there is evidence of that linking you to the crime.

    In a nutshell you've been setup in ways you cannot imagine by the most powerful people you will ever meet.

    So....your ass is grass, or you enjoy the money, and your life outside of jail, and try to forget......or do you go on a crusade of rapid self destruction?

    ?


    also there is no hiding from these people....and they can spy on you at will... and very easily now. So you get about three feet off the starting line, and your race is over.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    what have you done Roland? :cool:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    If my envolvement contributed to the death of innocent people I would be spilling my guts to anyone who would listen.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mammasan wrote:
    If my envolvement contributed to the death of innocent people I would be spilling my guts to anyone who would listen.


    and this has happened plenty of times throughout the course of history...

    Daniel Ellsburg and the Pentagon Papers come to mind... as does Peter Buxtun whistleblowing on the Tuskegee Study
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    I dunno... I'm not gonna get my family killed... I guess I'd sit low for a while til the right opportunity came up.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    my2hands wrote:
    and this has happened plenty of times throughout the course of history...

    Daniel Ellsburg and the Pentagon Papers come to mind... as does Peter Buxtun whistleblowing on the Tuskegee Study

    Let's not forget Deep Throat. Someone always comes forth especially in a large operation.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mammasan wrote:
    Let's not forget Deep Throat. Someone always comes forth especially in a large operation.


    how about all the tell all books that copme out from former cia operatives and administration officials... who was the dude that blew the cover off of the bush administration wanting to go into iraq asap? i cant rememeber his name

    Robert McNamara's documentary "Fog of War" was amazing and gave great insight as to why the bomb was not needed against japan for usrrender... it also gave great insight into the Johnson white house during vietnam
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    If my envolvement contributed to the death of innocent people I would be spilling my guts to anyone who would listen.


    Sure you would...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    You guys are kidding yourselves. Look at the magnitude. Look at the implications.

    Even still it won't do a damn bit of good. You'd just be labeled another truther that's crazy out their minds...

    little slice of reality right there for ya ;)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    and this has happened plenty of times throughout the course of history...

    Daniel Ellsburg and the Pentagon Papers come to mind... as does Peter Buxtun whistleblowing on the Tuskegee Study

    lemme guess you just used these examples to validate the exact same thing for 9/11
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Let's not forget Deep Throat. Someone always comes forth especially in a large operation.


    and how many years did that take?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sure you would...


    Maybe it's because I'm 10x the man you can ever hope of becoming but I would not sit idly by knowing that I was party of a conspiracy that resulted in the death of innocent people. Some of us actually stand up and act upon our beliefs while other ramble on about conspiracies on the internet.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Maybe it's because I'm 10x the man you can ever hope of becoming but I would not sit idly by knowing that I was party of a conspiracy that resulted in the death of innocent people. Some of us actually stand up and act upon our beliefs while other ramble on about conspiracies on the internet.


    that was pathetic....grow up.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    $250,000 in an offshore bank account and maybe a good gurd connection.
  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    I wouldn't say a damn thing. First off I didn't do anything wrong so I would not feel guilty about anything. If they wanted to pay me and large sum of money to shut up then I would. I would not put my families life in danger for any reason.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    That's how it went in Eastern European countries during Communism. It wasn't about conspiracies, though. But they forced people to lie in court or they'd loose their jobs, or even their property. They threw people in jail for nothing and there was nothing you could do. They forced you to betray your friends and even family in some cases. They'd give your children education if you agreed, they'd be allowed more things. And if you didn't comply they took away your job, or your home... They'd pin a crime on you and people would either hate you or they'd avoid you because the same fate was waiting for them if they'd talk to you.

    So you might want to stand by your principles but if you have a family and children, you might want to stand by them and not drag them into extreme poverty, especially if you know your claims will not be taken seriously.

    It's a difficult situation, that's for sure.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    that was pathetic....grow up.

    You love to dish it out but when someone throws it back at you, you can't handle it. Absolutely spineless and sad.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dbl post
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    You love to dish it out but when someone throws it back at you, you can't handle it. Absolutely spineless and sad.


    No actually, what you said was truly childish and immature. Chest thumping....apes do it. Rather disappointing to witness.

    I can take it plenty, and I have.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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