If you were involved in a conspiracy, how much would it take for you to keep silent ?

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Bush is telling us the truth. Governments are not corrupt. Especially in the past 30 years.

    of course....

    Obey your leader...do as he tells you...all will be fine. your rights are useless anyways.

    There's a term for that.


    so bush is in on 9/11

    i thought it was mossad?
  • my2hands wrote:
    this coming from the person that called me a "stupid retard" several times via pm last week :rolleyes:


    In a pm...in which I wasn't even trying to have a civil discussion with you AND you were in fact bugging the shit out of me.

    There's quite a large difference.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    my2hands wrote:
    so bush is in on 9/11

    i thought it was mossad?

    Bush is a Mossad agent, planted in a sleeper cell by the same Rabbis who are tricking us into buying Kosher food.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • my2hands wrote:
    so bush is in on 9/11

    i thought it was mossad?

    There are no connections between Israel and the US.

    you got me...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbr wrote:
    Bush is a Mossad agent, planted in a sleeper cell by the same Rabbis who are tricking us into buying Kosher food.

    Which leads me to wonder...what do you know about the issues really?

    Can you contribute in a serious manner to any of these discussions at all?

    Please, don't hold it all in.

    Share your wisdom and knowledge please.

    thanks.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jeffbr wrote:
    Bush is a Mossad agent, planted in a sleeper cell by the same Rabbis who are tricking us into buying Kosher food.


    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5431155&postcount=28

    I think we should all try to be consistent and not just take issue when it's people poking fun at issues we support.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • ouch ^^
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Which leads me to wonder...what do you know the issues really?

    Can you contribute in a serious manner to any of these discussions at all?

    Please, don't hold it all in.

    Share your wisdom and knowledge please.

    thanks.

    No, I cannot contribute in any serious manner to any of your lunatic rantings. I used to be able to, but your fantasies know no bounds, and it is impossible to actually have a dialog. When you are confronted with questions, you either dismiss them, or reply with non-sequiturs. So rather than banging my head against that brick wall, I prefer to amuse myself. Thanks for asking, though.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5431155&postcount=28

    I think we should all try to be consistent and not just take issue when it's people are poking fun at issues we support.

    Right. I try to stay out of My2hands threads about Paul except to occasionally correct misinformation. I try to stay out of most of Roland's threads about fairy tales, but at some point those are the only threads to post in, so I do. But there is no way to have a serious discussion with the guy. There are no threads where there is respectful disagreement and dialog when it comes to him and his goofy ideas. So I don't even pretend to try. I do try to follow my parents' advice about not saying anything if I have nothing nice to say, but these threads have a way of becoming target rich environments, and I get sucked in.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr wrote:
    No, I cannot contribute in any serious manner to any of your lunatic rantings. I used to be able to, but your fantasies know no bounds, and it is impossible to actually have a dialog. When you are confronted with questions, you either dismiss them, or reply with non-sequiturs. So rather than banging my head against that brick wall, I prefer to amuse myself. Thanks for asking, though.


    That's a rather elaborate way to spell the word "cop-out"

    I have made my points of which you are blind and spiteful

    hatred, malice, and contempt...

    ....nice character traits
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    No actually, what you said was truly childish and immature. Chest thumping....apes do it. Rather disappointing to witness.

    I can take it plenty, and I have.

    I apologize. My comment was out of line and childish. No offense though you are acting like a pompous ass. You do have a very bad habit of ignoring different view point and insulting those that do not share your ideals. It get's a tad annoying.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    That's a rather elaborate way to spell the word "cop-out"

    It is certainly not a cop-out. I was being perfectly honest and directly answered your question, which is more than you typically do.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    This reminds me of 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' which is a great book. I definitely recommend it to any of you who haven't already read it.
  • jeffbr wrote:
    Right. I try to stay out of My2hands threads about Paul except to occasionally correct misinformation. I try to stay out of most of Roland's threads about fairy tales, but at some point those are the only threads to post in, so I do. But there is no way to have a serious discussion with the guy. There are no threads where there is respectful disagreement and dialog when it comes to him and his goofy ideas. So I don't even pretend to try. I do try to follow my parents' advice about not saying anything if I have nothing nice to say, but these threads have a way of becoming target rich environments, and I get sucked in.


    If I find that I can't contribute to the topic without becoming insulting simply because someone chooses to think differently than I do and is not harming anyone in doing so...then I won't reply. Of course, there are many excuses I could use to to rationalize lowering my standards and becoming petty but I have to stop and wonder what the point of me doing that would be exactly. I slip like anyone but I won't rationalize it as being okay.


    It doesn't matter how far out someone's thoughts are compared to mine...I want to try to keep my integrity intact and debate civilly.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • I'd also like to add to jeffbr and mammasan: you guys are two of my favorite posters on this board even though we disagree so often because you are both able to debate with skill, clear reasoning and are able to communicate your views so clearly and with tact. You usually don't resort to the reactionary and petty insults that run rampant here. So when I see you guys on here doing exactly that...I gotta step in and say something. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    In a pm...in which I wasn't even trying to have a civil discussion with you AND you were in fact bugging the shit out of me.

    There's quite a large difference.


    so it is ok to act childish, uncivil, attack people, and call them names in private? but not in public...


    ok, got ya :rolleyes:
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    You usually don't resort to the reactionary and petty insults that run rampant here.


    like calling people a "stupid retard"?

    i love a good hypocrite!
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    This reminds me of 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' which is a great book. I definitely recommend it to any of you who haven't already read it.


    there is another example of a government whislteblower
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I'd also like to add to jeffbr and mammasan: you guys are two of my favorite posters on this board even though we disagree so often because you are both able to debate with skill, clear reasoning and are able to communicate your views so clearly and with tact. You usually don't resort to the reactionary and petty insults that run rampant here. So when I see you guys on here doing exactly that...I gotta step in and say something. :)

    Thanks, Abook. I appreciate that. I respect your views and opinions, and have no counter to your reasoning in the last couple of posts. :) I believe you called me out a couple of years ago for getting too emotional in a thread, and I did take it to heart. So with that, I will bow out of this thread and do a little self-moderation. Thanks for hitting the reset button!
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • my2hands wrote:
    so it is ok to act childish, uncivil, attack people, and call them names in private? but not in public...


    ok, got ya :rolleyes:


    When you are filling my pm box with pm's which are insulting and harassing, what do you expect?

    I have every right to call you whatever I wish in that kind of scenario.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jeffbr wrote:
    Thanks, Abook. I appreciate that. I respect your views and opinions, and have no counter to your reasoning in the last couple of posts. :) I believe you called me out a couple of years ago for getting too emotional in a thread, and I did take it to heart. So with that, I will bow out of this thread and do a little self-moderation. Thanks for hitting the reset button!


    You're welcome and no problem :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    When you are filling my pm box with pm's which are insulting and harassing, what do you expect?

    I have every right to call you whatever I wish in that kind of scenario.


    i was harrasing and insulting?


    it gets funnier by the minute...


    funny thing is i recieved a pm the other day from someone that wishes to remain nameless...

    "kabong and abook... those two have completely lost it. They used to be reasonable but now just aggressive and mean...."

    and it went into more detail but i want to respect their wishes to not put the whole thing out there

    it was from someone that posts on the mt regularly. i didnt solicit it and they just sent it to me. in fact i think it was the first ever pm they sent me or vice versa.
  • ClariceClarice Posts: 256
    Almost forgot.

    Money is also deposited knowingly by you into your bank account, which has ties to criminal activity making you an accomplice...your word against theirs.

    If you decide you don't like being wealthy for some reason, you will get completely obliterated in court in a game of he said/she said should you decide to try to prove anything. This money is tied to illegal activity that took place, of which you were present at the time, and there is evidence of that linking you to the crime.

    In a nutshell you've been setup in ways you cannot imagine by the most powerful people you will ever meet.

    So....your ass is grass, or you enjoy the money, and your life outside of jail, and try to forget......or do you go on a crusade of rapid self destruction?

    ?


    also there is no hiding from these people....and they can spy on you at will... and very easily now. So you get about three feet off the starting line, and your race is over.


    Is it a book that you are writing? Ok, it´s good..
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Say for example you did some work for the government, and then realized you're were embroiled in a conspiracy where something very terrible happened, and a lot of people died?

    You're already working for the government in either a military capacity, or as a contractor, or hold position in office.

    You are approached by a rather deadly serious group individuals from the FBI, CIA on more than a few occasions. You may even be told to go somewhere with them and witness a crime (murder or be involved unknowingly in drug trafficking) of which you are now told you may go to jail for the rest of your life if you get any ideas that go against national security, and some members of your family might not live so long if you get the bright idea to waste your time going public, where everyone will call you crazy anyways, and your life (and entire families reputation) will be destroyed. Also none of what you say will ever get into the media..

    As well...the amount of hatred directed towards you (and your family) for the rest of your lives will probably make you want to kill yourself.

    Now...would you talk or keep silent?


    so now you are saying the people conspiring on 9/11 were duped and tricked into cooperating?
  • my2hands wrote:
    i was harrasing and insulting?


    it gets funnier by the minute...


    funny thing is i recieved a pm the other day from someone that wishes to remain nameless...

    "kabong and abook... those two have completely lost it. They used to be reasonable but now just aggressive and mean...."

    and it went into more detail but i want to respect their wishes to not put the whole thing out there

    it was from someone that posts on the mt regularly. i didnt solicit it and they just sent it to me. in fact i think it was the first ever pm they sent me or vice versa.

    You do realize that the 'P' in PM means Private, don't you?


    And do you think I'm not completely aware that some people here are not going to like what I have to say? I'm not doing something right if everyone liked what I post here.

    I don't think I've been overly aggressive or mean. People who like Obama are often going to take it that way, I've found....but I've been posting this same way for over 4 years now. The only thing that changed is that I quit giving liberals a free pass when they're doing the same shit I have issues with.


    Actually, someone told me the other day that I'm too much of a pussycat and play too nice on the board...so I'll take that criticism with a grain of salt based on that fact the you have nothing to back it up with.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    my2hands wrote:
    there is another example of a government whislteblower
    nevermind that it was 30 years later...
    my2hands wrote:
    "kabong and abook... those two have completely lost it. They used to be reasonable but now just aggressive and mean...."
    it's stupid to bring issues that were discussed over PMs to the topics.... they were discussed in PMs for a reason.

    also, it's childish to copy something like that, which is clearly insulting and adds nothing to the topic.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I'd also like to add to jeffbr and mammasan: you guys are two of my favorite posters on this board even though we disagree so often because you are both able to debate with skill, clear reasoning and are able to communicate your views so clearly and with tact. You usually don't resort to the reactionary and petty insults that run rampant here. So when I see you guys on here doing exactly that...I gotta step in and say something. :)


    I respect everyone;s opinion on this board and always try to view a situation from different angles to get a better understand. I usually do not resort to the type of childish antics, though I am guilty of behaving that one sometimes, that plague this board. I know you and I have not seen eye to eye on some issues but we always respect each other's stance and in the end we have each learned something from each other. I apologized for my rash words earlier in this thread and I also sent you a pm explaining my behavior.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan wrote:
    I respect everyone;s opinion on this board and always try to view a situation from different angles to get a better understand. I usually do not resort to the type of childish antics, though I am guilty of behaving that one sometimes, that plague this board. I know you and I have not seen eye to eye on some issues but we always respect each other's stance and in the end we have each learned something from each other. I apologized for my rash words earlier in this thread and I also sent you a pm explaining my behavior.

    I agree.

    And yeah, I'm backed up on replying to pm's at the moment :o...I fully intend to get back to you on that. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Hitler had the Reichstag burned down and blamed it on terrorists. That only took over 60 years to come out.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    You do realize that the 'P' in PM means Private, don't you?


    And do you think I'm not completely aware that some people here are not going to like what I have to say?

    it is not what you are saying, it is how you have been saying it...

    i was simply pointing out that ms. "holier then thou" has been rude and mean to people on here lately and folks are noticing it... thats all... the old "dont throw stones if you live in a glass house" type deal


    but anyway... i am a "stupid retard" so what do i know? whoops, that was in PM so i should not have said anything about it?
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