Israel may have broken US arms export laws

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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    B nice wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_of_Jesus

    seriously
    it's the same thing



    also ... a fundamentalist is fundamentalist

    well what or who do you consider a christian fundamentalist?
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  • B nice
    B nice Posts: 182
    miller8966 wrote:
    well what or who do you consider a christian fundamentalist?


    damn , you got me on that one
    let me think on that
    life has nothing to do with killing time
    Bring it on cause I'm no victim

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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    B nice wrote:
    damn , you got me on that one
    let me think on that

    take your time
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    take your time

    Jerry Falwell
    Pat Robertson
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jerry Falwell
    Pat Robertson

    They kill people?
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  • B nice
    B nice Posts: 182
    eric randolph
    jim jones
    george bush




    didn't rat poberson call for the execution of hugo chavez?



    I will put up our fundamentalist against any ones. the usa doesn't play second fiddle to anyone on anything
    life has nothing to do with killing time
    Bring it on cause I'm no victim

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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    B nice wrote:
    eric randolph
    jim jones
    george bush




    didn't rat poberson call for the execution of hugo chavez?



    I will put up our fundamentalist against any ones. the usa doesn't play second fiddle to anyone on anything

    Ill give you eric rudolph but you cant compare jim jones to a terrorist. And gwb is not a christian fundamentalist.

    And PAt robertson did not call for the killing of innocent people..like most muslim fundamentalists do.
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  • B nice
    B nice Posts: 182
    miller8966 wrote:
    Ill give you eric rudolph but you cant compare jim jones to a terrorist. And gwb is not a christian fundamentalist.

    And PAt robertson did not call for the killing of innocent people..like most muslim fundamentalists do.


    which muslim fundamentalist?

    obl is about as much a muslim fundi as GWB is a christian fundi


    hey wait ... i'm a liberal
    how did you get me defending the stupid religious people ?? christian muslim jewish .. whatever

    you crafty sith
    life has nothing to do with killing time
    Bring it on cause I'm no victim

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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    during the war in lebanon, i wasn't home. i was living in NY at the time.
    if i had been in israel, i would have probably been responsible for quite a bit of those "bomballetes" (or whetever you wanna call them. tiny hand-grenade-size bombs), and i wouldn't be ashamed of it, since i know i served my country the way i should have (the word i'm looking for is loyally).

    i would like to make it clear that i don't like the idea that it could have been me, or that my friends at my reserve unit are in great part related to this entire issue, merely because civilians should not be harmed by war, no matter which "side" they're on. a war should be fought between armed forces (i refuse to call hezbulla an army, because, well, they're not). that goes for lebanease AND israeli civilians being killed, due to IDF AND hezbulla actions.

    like someone said here, what the U.S congress is doing (in my opinion) is hypocrisy at its worst, since the U.S supplied us with this equipment, and since it has used it (quite a lot, as far as i know) in iraq.

    i know fighting is the worst resolution, and i know people here will say things like: "if you're against it, don't fight!". but then, if everyone in israel had done that (since no one i know likes the thought of war), that means no one will fight. and if no one in israel would have fought back, the damage to israel (casualties, property, etc.) would have been incredible. and forgive me for being an israeli citizen, but as one, i prefer maintaining my country's security and existence over any other country in the world.

    i always find it amusing when people who don't live in this area have something to say. that's like me opening the sports channel and criticize denmark's kurling team, something i clearly know nothing about.

    war sucks.
    this area is full of shit (politics, religion, history, etc.)
    but it's home. MY home.
    yes. if i had been in israel during the war, i would have "pushed the button". no question.
    so if it makes you feel good, call me a terrorist.
    i'm still alive.


    (damn that was long)
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  • goldstar wrote:
    during the war in lebanon, i wasn't home. i was living in NY at the time.
    if i had been in israel, i would have probably been responsible for quite a bit of those "bomballetes" (or whetever you wanna call them. tiny hand-grenade-size bombs), and i wouldn't be ashamed of it, since i know i served my country the way i should have (the word i'm looking for is loyally).

    i would like to make it clear that i don't like the idea that it could have been me, or that my friends at my reserve unit are in great part related to this entire issue, merely because civilians should not be harmed by war, no matter which "side" they're on. a war should be fought between armed forces (i refuse to call hezbulla an army, because, well, they're not). that goes for lebanease AND israeli civilians being killed, due to IDF AND hezbulla actions.

    like someone said here, what the U.S congress is doing (in my opinion) is hypocrisy at its worst, since the U.S supplied us with this equipment, and since it has used it (quite a lot, as far as i know) in iraq.

    i know fighting is the worst resolution, and i know people here will say things like: "if you're against it, don't fight!". but then, if everyone in israel had done that (since no one i know likes the thought of war), that means no one will fight. and if no one in israel would have fought back, the damage to israel (casualties, property, etc.) would have been incredible. and forgive me for being an israeli citizen, but as one, i prefer maintaining my country's security and existence over any other country in the world.

    i always find it amusing when people who don't live in this area have something to say. that's like me opening the sports channel and criticize denmark's kurling team, something i clearly know nothing about.

    war sucks.
    this area is full of shit (politics, religion, history, etc.)
    but it's home. MY home.
    yes. if i had been in israel during the war, i would have "pushed the button". no question.
    so if it makes you feel good, call me a terrorist.
    i'm still alive.


    (damn that was long)
    ditto your response.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    goldstar wrote:
    i always find it amusing when people who don't live in this area have something to say. that's like me opening the sports channel and criticize denmark's kurling team, something i clearly know nothing about.

    Perhaps then as an American we should stop subsidizing your entire military budget and stop blocking all UN sanctions against your barbaric acts against humanity. Then I wouldnt feel it necessary to comment on your nation.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Perhaps then as an American we should stop subsidizing your entire military budget and stop blocking all UN sanctions against your barbaric acts against humanity. Then I wouldnt feel it necessary to comment on your nation.

    I support israel and its military. Hopefully more of my tax dollars is used for it.
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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Perhaps then as an American we should stop subsidizing your entire military budget and stop blocking all UN sanctions against your barbaric acts against humanity. Then I wouldnt feel it necessary to comment on your nation.

    when you achieve a position of power which enables you to change the things in this world, i encourage you to do what you believe is right.
    until then, i encourage you to put proper use to your voting rights, and choose the leaders who you believe represent a better policy (in you opinion).
    because the government (mine, yours, whatever) is the body in-charge of that kind of policy. what we as "little people" can do is vote.

    i don't think you shouldn't criticize what you see as wrong or unjust. but i hope that whatever anyone says, comes after inspecting the subject through and through, from every possible side.
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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    it comes down to this:

    i'm not saying "if you don't know what's going on here - don't comment"

    i'm saying: "if you know what's going on here - you MUST comment"
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Perhaps then as an American we should stop subsidizing your entire military budget and stop blocking all UN sanctions against your barbaric acts against humanity. Then I wouldnt feel it necessary to comment on your nation.

    I support israel and its military. Hopefully more of my tax dollars is used for it.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    miller8966 wrote:
    I support israel and its military. Hopefully more of my tax dollars is used for it.

    You know you could contribute money directly to the IDF in the form of care packages or something if you really want to give more to them. I know your full of it though. Maybe you should become an Israeli citizen. No, then you would have to do your part in the military unlike in this country and we all know you're just a keyboard warrior. Gungho !!
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    goldstar wrote:
    i prefer maintaining my country's security and existence over any other country in the world.


    I know a few other countries and people who thought like this. Now they get harped on. Your post was actually quite good until I read this. All you had to add was, at any cost. But I am sure you just forgot to type those words out.
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  • goldstar
    goldstar Posts: 256
    even flow? wrote:
    I know a few other countries and people who thought like this. Now they get harped on. Your post was actually quite good until I read this. All you had to add was, at any cost. But I am sure you just forgot to type those words out.

    maybe i should have written "protect", to get the point right.
    anyway, thank you for taking the time to read it.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Israel dropped more cluster bombs than some lebanese villages had people in them. Over 3 million of those bombs, Over a million that are still waiting to explode on the ground.

    Talk about trying to wipe people off a map.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    It came this morning. What good timing!
    You just delight in the death of those you oppose. Sick.