Gore 2008, What do you think?

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  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    At one point Ross Perot had 39% of the American people's support. Better than Bush (31%) and Clinton (25%) until he dropped out of the race for a few weeks. Cold feet? Maybe... But, as for the voting system, a third party candidate is more than viable.

    I remember that. It goes both ways. Many people said Perot was taking conservative votes in the election Clinton won.
    "She knows there is no success like failure
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  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    I remember that. It goes both ways. Many people said Perot was taking conservative votes in the election Clinton won.


    Well, obviously he was taking votes from someone if Bush and Clinton were supposed to be the only two candidates running for office. But, there were three. So believing someone was taking votes from another candidate is just a hypothetical fantasy. If people want more than two candidates to choose from then don't complain about third party candidates taking votes from one of the two main party candidates.
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    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Well, obviously he was taking votes from someone if Bush and Clinton were supposed to be the only two candidates running for office. But, there were three. So believing someone was taking votes from another candidate is just a hypothetical fantasy. If people want more than two candidates to choose from then don't complain about third party candidates taking votes from one of the two main party candidates.

    True. I was only stating that according to some voting for Nader ruined the election for Gore. I am stating that same thing could almost be said for Perot on the other side with Bush. I am not complaining about third party candidates.
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    True. I was only stating that according to some voting for Nader ruined the election for Gore. I am stating that same thing could almost be said for Perot on the other side with Bush. I am not complaining about third party candidates.


    All depends if you're a liberal or not. Here, that argument is relevant. But, it's hard to convince any cognizant voter that Nader ruined an election for a man who won the popular vote... Wouldn't you think so?

    Because here in these forums, a man that wins the popular vote should be President!

    It's almost sickening to see how easy it is to argue from a liberal's point of view.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    At one point Ross Perot had 39% of the American people's support. Better than Bush (31%) and Clinton (25%) until he dropped out of the race for a few weeks. Cold feet? Maybe... But, as for the voting system, a third party candidate is more than viable.

    don't rely on polls...
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  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    don't rely on polls...


    Yeah. I did good didn't I.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    All depends if you're a liberal or not. Here, that argument is relevant. But, it's hard to convince any cognizant voter that Nader ruined an election for a man who won the popular vote... Wouldn't you think so?

    Because here in these forums, a man that wins the popular vote should be President!

    It's almost sickening to see how easy it is to argue from a liberal's point of view.

    that's funny...i'm the one that has always said that people should stop bitching about the gore loss in '00...yeah, it's really easy isn't it.
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Yeah. I did good didn't I.

    this response doesn't make sense.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    that's funny...i'm one of the people that have always said that people should stop bitching about the gore loss in '00...yeah, it's really easy isn't it.

    I don't even know if anyone was bitching about it. I just wanted to speak negatively about him.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    this response doesn't make sense.


    It does to me. Can I help you?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    It does to me. Can I help you?

    you are residing in NC, so, yes, you can help me understand your brand of american english.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    All depends if you're a liberal or not. Here, that argument is relevant. But, it's hard to convince any cognizant voter that Nader ruined an election for a man who won the popular vote... Wouldn't you think so?

    Because here in these forums, a man that wins the popular vote should be President!

    It's almost sickening to see how easy it is to argue from a liberal's point of view.

    I can understand why people bitched about it, but the electoral college is our system and is in the Constitution and many people have no idea how it works. Now we have a war with people dying from our country, because of our country, to presumably make us safer.

    Could Gore have done better?? Who knows? Hard to imagine though we would be in a stickier situation than the one we are in now. But maybe in the long run...
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    you are residing in NC, so, yes, you can help me understand your brand of american english.


    Oh my! Is that derogatory? You had better hope Kat doesn't see that!

    lol My English... I don't need my English corrected by anyone on these forums. That I'm certain of. Perhaps you should re-read my signature after each of my posts? But don't dwell on it, sometimes I can be very serious. If you don't believe me, ask my daddy.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    I can understand why people bitched about it, but the electoral college is our system and is in the Constitution and many people have no idea how it works. Now we have a war with people dying from our country, because of our country, to presumably make us safer.

    Could Gore have done better?? Who knows? Hard to imagine though we would be in a stickier situation than the one we are in now. But maybe in the long run...

    What do you mean "because of our country?"
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Oh my! Is that derogatory? You had better hope Kat doesn't see that!

    lol My English... I don't need my English corrected by anyone on these forums. That I'm certain of. Perhaps you should re-read my signature after each of my posts? But don't dwell on it, sometimes I can be very serious. If you don't believe me, ask my daddy.

    Anyway, I wasn't be derogatory. I was merely wanting you to explain what you meant with the nonsense response because you claimed that third-party candidates are viable (they are not) and then didn't respond to me in a coherent fashion. And, I must add, I'm from WV, so anything I say about someone else's lack of ability in grammar and american english is null and void.
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  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    What do you mean "because of our country?"

    I mean we are engaged in a conflict overseas where we usurped a dictator and people are dying because of our actions, and our given reason of weapons of mass destruction, is yet to be found. Would people be dying over there because we didn't go? Maybe sure. But invading another country has its consequences on its civilian population. Both directly and indirectly as the internal conflict is showing us.
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    Anyway, I wasn't be derogatory. I was merely wanting you to explain what you meant with the nonsense response because you claimed that third-party candidates are viable (they are not) and then didn't respond to me in a coherent fashion. And, I must add, I'm from WV, so anything I say about someone else's lack of ability in grammar and american english is null and void.


    You couldn't be more wrong. Most third party candidates have not been viable, true. That doesn't mean third party candidates are not viable. Perot was more than viable. Actually, the third party candidate in the election of 1912 had already served a full term in the White House. There's nothing nonsensical about that. Instead it makes your statement a complete farce.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    I mean we are engaged in a conflict overseas where we usurped a dictator and people are dying because of our actions, and our given reason of weapons of mass destruction, is yet to be found. Would people be dying over there because we didn't go? Maybe sure. But invading another country has its consequences on its civilian population. Both directly and indirectly as the internal conflict is showing us.

    1. WMD was not the sole reason for removing Saddam. Many tons of remnants have been found. As for a working WMD, no, none have been found, reguardless of the fact we have direct evidence he had been using them on his own people.

    2. Would people be dying if we wouldn't have gone in? 300,000 dead Iraqi's think so. That's just the one's we know about.

    3. Speaking of invading other countries. It's believed that roughly 1.5 million Iraqis died as a direct result of the sanctions Saddam imposed on himself after the invasion of Kuwait. See #2
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Innocent_Bystander
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    Maybe people will take him serial on manbearpig finally.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/

    Considering Gore couldn't even carry his home state of Tennessee and was the first major party candidate since McGovern in 72 to not win his home state, why would he win now?

    I mean if he just would have won Tennessee, Florida wouldn't have even mattered, but most people forget about that.
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