Al-Qaida rebuilding effective terror network
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"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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I read this too. goddamn Pakistan is the problem now. time to leave Iraq and send every solider we have to Afghanistan.0
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jlew24asu wrote:I read this too. goddamn Pakistan is the problem now. time to leave Iraq and send every solider we have to Afghanistan.
I know I'm going to sound like a broken record but we completely fucked up in Afghanistan. We did the job half-assed because this administration had it's eyes on Iraq and never really gave it a 100% effort in Afghanistan."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:I know I'm going to sound like a broken record but we completely fucked up in Afghanistan. We did the job half-assed because this administration had it's eyes on Iraq and never really gave it a 100% effort in Afghanistan.
well I dont know. we did take the taliban out of power and put el queda on the run. Iraq was definitely a distraction but I dont know what we could have done in pakistan short of an all out invasion.0 -
jlew24asu wrote:well I dont know. we did take the taliban out of power and put el queda on the run. Iraq was definitely a distraction but I dont know what we could have done in pakistan short of an all out invasion.
We did take the Taliban out of power and put Al Qaida on the run but we failed to close the deal. We outsourced an important part of the mission and that was to capture Bin Laden. We didn't leave the necessary troops in place to successfully secure the country and completely dismantle the Taliban."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
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jlew24asu wrote:well I dont know. we did take the taliban out of power and put el queda on the run. Iraq was definitely a distraction but I dont know what we could have done in pakistan short of an all out invasion.
OK, Iraq is what 20-25 million people? And Iran looks tough to handle with 70 million. Pakistan is 170 million people. That's another ball-game entirely. You'd require at least the draft back to get anywhere close to anough personnel...
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One day we will realize that it is ignorant to focus on "Terrorists".
A. Noone is a "Terrorist"
B. Terrorism will be far less effective when nations work together.
Out policy has been and continues to be one of division and hatred...
In a world filled with division and hatred - terrorism thrives.0 -
OutOfBreath wrote:OK, Iraq is what 20-25 million people? And Iran looks tough to handle with 70 million. Pakistan is 170 million people. That's another ball-game entirely. You'd require at least the draft back to get anywhere close to anough personnel...
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The Iraqi military was soundly defeated in roughly 1 month. Iran was unable to accomplish this over a period of 8 years."Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
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And we're seeing what good that did you. Imagine the fun aftermath after trashing a nation 7-8 times the size of Iraq...ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:The Iraqi military was soundly defeated in roughly 1 month. Iran was unable to accomplish this over a period of 8 years.
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"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:OK, Iraq is what 20-25 million people? And Iran looks tough to handle with 70 million. Pakistan is 170 million people. That's another ball-game entirely. You'd require at least the draft back to get anywhere close to anough personnel...
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invading pakistan is obviously not an option. but we arent really going after pakistan. its the tribal areas that border afgahistan that is the problem. these areas shouldnt ever be considered part of pakistan.0 -
OutOfBreath wrote:And we're seeing what good that did you. Imagine the fun aftermath after trashing a nation 7-8 times the size of Iraq...
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What good it did me? What are you talking about?"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
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You in plural. Making a generalized statement towards americans. No use of you being able to take out any conventional army quickly, if the opponent dont field an army per se. Ref Iraq.ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:What good it did me? What are you talking about?
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Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:You in plural. Making a generalized statement towards americans. No use of you being able to take out any conventional army quickly, if the opponent dont field an army per se. Ref Iraq.
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Dan
Alright."Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
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ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:The Iraqi military was soundly defeated in roughly 1 month. Iran was unable to accomplish this over a period of 8 years.
well perhaps if both sides weren't being abetted in different ways by the united states of america, the result would have been different.hear my name
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Exactly. When we seek division, destruction, hatred, well, guess what comes back to us. When we seek to create, problem-solve and to bring together I wonder what'll happen then. It looks like we humans haven't evolved past that tipping point in general.Abuskedti wrote:One day we will realize that it is ignorant to focus on "Terrorists".
A. Noone is a "Terrorist"
B. Terrorism will be far less effective when nations work together.
Out policy has been and continues to be one of division and hatred...
In a world filled with division and hatred - terrorism thrives.
Terrorism is just the convenient term for the fallout for our lack of problem-solving ability."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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angelica wrote:Exactly. When we seek division, destruction, hatred, well, guess what comes back to us. When we seek to create, problem-solve and to bring together I wonder what'll happen then. It looks like we humans haven't evolved past that tipping point in general.
Terrorism is just the convenient term for the fallout for our lack of problem-solving ability.
People who have these kinds of worldviews become the slaves of those they claim do not exist."Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
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In my case, you are talking to a person with a worldview that is about seeking to understand all worldviews. No worldview is to be demonized, in my view. To demonize the other person's/group's worldview is the set up an unrealistic view of good=us, bad=them. You are the slave to whom you make yourself a slave to, my friend. Putting yourself as victim to a persecutor is an imbalanced perspective. It is the opposite of a balanced, potent perspective.ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:People who have these kinds of worldviews become the slaves of those they claim do not exist.
I'm fully aware of the evil that lurks in the hearts of men because I seek to understand it. And that evil is in all men. Pointing the finger does not work for problem solving. It does work for war, though."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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angelica wrote:In my case, you are talking to a person with a worldview that is about seeking to understand all worldviews. No worldview is to be demonized, in my view. To demonize the other person's/group's worldview is the set up an unrealistic view of good=us, bad=them. You are the slave to whom you make yourself a slave to, my friend. Putting yourself as victim to a persecutor is an imbalanced perspective. It is the opposite of a balanced, potent perspective.
I'm fully aware of the evil that lurks in the hearts of men because I seek to understand it. And that evil is in all men. Pointing the finger does not work for problem solving. It does work for war, though.
What is it with you and blaming men for everything? I can't even have a simple conversation with you and you blast me into next week. If I had a tank, my finger would be pointing directly at you!"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
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:eek:ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:What is it with you and blaming men for everything? I can't even have a simple conversation with you and you blast me into next week. If I had a tank, my finger would be pointing directly at you!"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
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Abuskedti wrote:One day we will realize that it is ignorant to focus on "Terrorists".
A. Noone is a "Terrorist"
B. Terrorism will be far less effective when nations work together.
Out policy has been and continues to be one of division and hatred...
In a world filled with division and hatred - terrorism thrives.
So, how can terrorism exist (example "B" from you), when you clearly state that "no one is a terrorist" (example "A" from you).
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