Taleban use 12 year old to behead "spy"

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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    where are the video clips of this beheading?


    just outta curiosity, how come you wanna see it? i cant imagine itd be too different from the other beheading videos that have been seen.
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    just outta curiosity, how come you wanna see it? i cant imagine itd be too different from the other beheading videos that have been seen.
    there have been other beheading videos too???? where can i see it?
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  • pjamdude69
    pjamdude69 Posts: 174
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    there have been other beheading videos too???? where can i see it?


    Right here.. Beheadings are never fun, but it's still somewhat surreal to watch another supposed human being lopping the dome of another human being.. These fucknuts are goddamn animals..

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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    pjamdude69 wrote:
    Right here.. Beheadings are never fun, but it's still somewhat surreal to watch another supposed human being lopping the dome of another human being.. These fucknuts are goddamn animals..

    http://www.liveleak.com/
    you crazy guy... I was only kidding. i don't want to see that...

    I remember I was 9 when the security guard was shot in the head 3 times on the entrance of our apartment complex. The news were there and the ambulance too. His body lied in fetal position with his head dipped in a pool of blood. I will never forget that sight.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purplehawk just sent me a PM titled. "what did your dad do to you?"

    He follows with the message that he can't relate, however, he is thankful for social anxiety.

    Lol.

    Gosh.
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  • pjamdude69
    pjamdude69 Posts: 174
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    you crazy guy... I was only kidding. i don't want to see that...

    Oh come on, it's good wholesome family fun. What's not to love? :D
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  • crittables
    crittables Posts: 342
    i'm actually taking a class right now called Children and War. it's shocking how much this is happening all over the world. sometimes the kids are kidnapped or forced into joining. and sometimes they choose to join, either for revenge of some sort, or because it seems like a better option than their lives. it's really depressing.

    a lot of times it's rebel groups recruiting the kids, but state armies are guilty too.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    gue_barium wrote:
    Purplehawk just sent me a PM titled. "what did your dad do to you?"

    He follows with the message that he can't relate, however, he is thankful for social anxiety.

    Lol.

    Gosh.

    gosh indeed.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    gosh indeed.

    You don't want to get inside my head. lol. Really.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Heatherj43 wrote:
    Kids know what is right and wrong.

    How so?

    Based on what do you make this claim?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    gue_barium wrote:
    You don't want to get inside my head. lol. Really.

    you don't really need to degrade my attempt to be friendly either...everyone here knows i have ocd and have severe issues with social anxiety...

    whatever, i've pm'd almost everyone here that i've disagreed with on issues...it's my way of getting to know other perspectives. i don't think you'd disagree...you airing my pm in the way you did was pretty bush. i'm sure most people would agree.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    you don't really need to degrade my attempt to be friendly either...everyone here knows i have ocd and have severe issues with social anxiety...

    whatever, i've pm'd almost everyone here that i've disagreed with on issues...it's my way of getting to know other perspectives. i don't think you'd disagree...you airing my pm in the way you did was pretty bush. i'm sure most people would agree.

    "what did your dad do to you?" is your way of getting to know other perspectives?

    gimme a break.
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  • Heatherj43
    Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Ahnimus wrote:
    How so?

    Based on what do you make this claim?
    Have you ever heard the term "out of the mouths of babes". In our own society, kids will often say things when they know something is just not right, even if the rest of society has accepted it as a norm, kids know and will say so!
    All the while, the kids will do what we tell them, becuase we are the adults, but they know...I know I always knew when something an adult, be it my parents, teachers, church, or school said was okay.
    Yet, kids will do what they are told, mainly because the conflict of obeying elders, and the falsehood that adults are right, not to mention wanting the adults to be proud and to not be punished, called names or ostrized.

    My career was working with troubles teens and I had 3 of my own. Oh, and I was one once.
    And my education in field taught me all of this too, besides training on the job.
    No one can tell me a 12 year old, from any walk of life, can not be harmed by doing such an act.
    They are all children, no different than are own children.
    That will leave scars upon him.
    Pusy ass adults should do it themselves and leave the kids out of it.
    Save room for dessert!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Heatherj43 wrote:
    Have you ever heard the term "out of the mouths of babes". In our own society, kids will often say things when they know something is just not right, even if the rest of society has accepted it as a norm, kids know and will say so!
    All the while, the kids will do what we tell them, becuase we are the adults, but they know...I know I always knew when something an adult, be it my parents, teachers, church, or school said was okay.
    Yet, kids will do what they are told, mainly because the conflict of obeying elders, and the falsehood that adults are right, not to mention wanting the adults to be proud and to not be punished, called names or ostrized.

    My career was working with troubles teens and I had 3 of my own. Oh, and I was one once.
    And my education in field taught me all of this too, besides training on the job.
    No one can tell me a 12 year old, from any walk of life, can not be harmed by doing such an act.
    They are all children, no different than are own children.
    That will leave scars upon him.
    Pusy ass adults should do it themselves and leave the kids out of it.

    Ok, so, I got experience and training. What specific research in your training pertains to this claim?

    Everything I've read and heard in the fields of psychology and neurology suggests the opposite.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Heatherj43
    Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ok, so, I got experience and training. What specific research in your training pertains to this claim?

    Everything I've read and heard in the fields of psychology and neurology suggests the opposite.
    I do have extensive training in troubled youth. I am a social worker who worked with neglected, abused, and throwaway teens for many years. Kids are the same no matter where they live.
    Yes, so what you have read people in these fields who say the opposite. BTW, please cite where you heard this.
    I spent my entire life learning, doing research, and in the field about this.
    Children are children regardless of where they are from. Their emotional maturity is not that of an adult...research that!!!
    I find it stunning that anyone can't see that a 12 year old is not capable of fulling understanding what they have done, and at the same time knows what right and wrong. It is outside presures that make him belive this is the norm, but a child knows.
    My research and training has been over 20 years and specialized in children, regardless of where they are from.
    I can' give any specific research now, cuz there is so much.
    I would love to see you reseach. I bet it is either non-existant or from some research that can easily be disproved.
    Even commom sense should let one know that a 12 year old decapitating someone, then holding their bloody head would at least give mightmares, and some long range problems.
    Geez, its not rocket science.
    Did you decapitate someone at 12 and then hold their bloody head for the media? Do you honestly think you'd have no long lasting effects from that?
    COMMON SENSE!
    Save room for dessert!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Heatherj43 wrote:
    I do have extensive training in troubled youth. I am a social worker who worked with neglected, abused, and throwaway teens for many years. Kids are the same no matter where they live.
    Yes, so what you have read people in these fields who say the opposite. BTW, please cite where you heard this.
    I spent my entire life learning, doing research, and in the field about this.
    Children are children regardless of where they are from. Their emotional maturity is not that of an adult...research that!!!
    I find it stunning that anyone can't see that a 12 year old is not capable of fulling understanding what they have done, and at the same time knows what right and wrong. It is outside presures that make him belive this is the norm, but a child knows.
    My research and training has been over 20 years and specialized in children, regardless of where they are from.
    I can' give any specific research now, cuz there is so much.
    I would love to see you reseach. I bet it is either non-existant or from some research that can easily be disproved.
    Even commom sense should let one know that a 12 year old decapitating someone, then holding their bloody head would at least give mightmares, and some long range problems.
    Geez, its not rocket science.
    Did you decapitate someone at 12 and then hold their bloody head for the media? Do you honestly think you'd have no long lasting effects from that?
    COMMON SENSE!

    Well, I believe in Tabula Rasa, you are suggesting Innate Purity and I don't think it's that popular of a view amongst psychologists. According to the work of Margaret Mead children in a primative society don't waste time thinking about spirits, gods, easter bunnies, those are things we've taught our children to be concerned with in western soceities. As for neurology, it's pretty well known that the brain is nothing without sensory input to adapt to.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Ahnimus wrote:
    children in a primative society don't waste time thinking about spirits, gods, easter bunnies, those are things we've taught our children to be concerned with in western soceities. As for neurology, it's pretty well known that the brain is nothing without sensory input to adapt to.
    Children in a primItive society may not bother with the easter bunny but they will definitely with spirits and whatever their gods are.... theire parents teach them that just as we teach our kids in western societies.

    Ahnimus wrote:
    So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
    Wrong.. you may chop heads off because you HAVE to... not because you enjoy it.... you know it's wrong but you do it because if not, there may be repercussions.
    There have been numerous interviews with child soldiers when adults and what they were relating was harrowing... they knew it was wrong, they knew they were going to pay for it later (yes - spiritualism), but they still did it because ADULTS were telling them to do it... growing up, it became a 'way of life' even if they still knew it was wrong.... A number of them, having escaped the 'system' that forced them into evil acts, committed suicide because they couldn't live with what they did...
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    redrock wrote:
    Children in a primItive society may not bother with the easter bunny but they will definitely with spirits and whatever their gods are.... theire parents teach them that just as we teach our kids in western societies.


    Wrong.. you may chop heads off because you HAVE to... not because you enjoy it.... you know it's wrong but you do it because if not, there may be repercussions.
    There have been numerous interviews with child soldiers when adults and what they were relating was harrowing... they knew it was wrong, they knew they were going to pay for it later (yes - spiritualism), but they still did it because ADULTS were telling them to do it... growing up, it became a 'way of life' even if they still knew it was wrong.... A number of them, having escaped the 'system' that forced them into evil acts, committed suicide because they couldn't live with what they did...

    Mead tells of Growing Up in New Guinea. "Margaret Mead told us how she came to the research problem on which she based her Growing Up in New Guinea. She reasoned as follows: If primitive adults think in an animistic way, as Piaget says our children do, how do primitive children think?
    "In her research on Manus Island of New Guinea, she discovered that 'primitive' children think in a very practical way and begin to think in terms of spirits etc. as they get older.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead

    In all cultures killing is wrong for the most part and kids are taught so. If they are taken into the fringe and put in that position, yes they will feel it's wrong. But no child ever thought killing a boar was wrong when it came to food. Nowadays some kids do, as their parents are vegetarians.

    The island of Papua New Guinea is popular for researchers because of cultural diversity. I don't have a source right now, but there is a tribe that actually raids other tribes and steals their children, the children grow up to do the same.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Heatherj43
    Heatherj43 Posts: 1,254
    Ahnimus wrote:
    So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
    Apples and Oranges.
    Its like saying if you grew up eating spinach, you might like it, but if you grew up being raped by step-father, I don't think you end up liking it.
    Bad Example, buddy.
    Save room for dessert!

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