You don't want to get inside my head. lol. Really.
you don't really need to degrade my attempt to be friendly either...everyone here knows i have ocd and have severe issues with social anxiety...
whatever, i've pm'd almost everyone here that i've disagreed with on issues...it's my way of getting to know other perspectives. i don't think you'd disagree...you airing my pm in the way you did was pretty bush. i'm sure most people would agree.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
you don't really need to degrade my attempt to be friendly either...everyone here knows i have ocd and have severe issues with social anxiety...
whatever, i've pm'd almost everyone here that i've disagreed with on issues...it's my way of getting to know other perspectives. i don't think you'd disagree...you airing my pm in the way you did was pretty bush. i'm sure most people would agree.
"what did your dad do to you?" is your way of getting to know other perspectives?
Have you ever heard the term "out of the mouths of babes". In our own society, kids will often say things when they know something is just not right, even if the rest of society has accepted it as a norm, kids know and will say so!
All the while, the kids will do what we tell them, becuase we are the adults, but they know...I know I always knew when something an adult, be it my parents, teachers, church, or school said was okay.
Yet, kids will do what they are told, mainly because the conflict of obeying elders, and the falsehood that adults are right, not to mention wanting the adults to be proud and to not be punished, called names or ostrized.
My career was working with troubles teens and I had 3 of my own. Oh, and I was one once.
And my education in field taught me all of this too, besides training on the job.
No one can tell me a 12 year old, from any walk of life, can not be harmed by doing such an act.
They are all children, no different than are own children.
That will leave scars upon him.
Pusy ass adults should do it themselves and leave the kids out of it.
Have you ever heard the term "out of the mouths of babes". In our own society, kids will often say things when they know something is just not right, even if the rest of society has accepted it as a norm, kids know and will say so!
All the while, the kids will do what we tell them, becuase we are the adults, but they know...I know I always knew when something an adult, be it my parents, teachers, church, or school said was okay.
Yet, kids will do what they are told, mainly because the conflict of obeying elders, and the falsehood that adults are right, not to mention wanting the adults to be proud and to not be punished, called names or ostrized.
My career was working with troubles teens and I had 3 of my own. Oh, and I was one once.
And my education in field taught me all of this too, besides training on the job.
No one can tell me a 12 year old, from any walk of life, can not be harmed by doing such an act.
They are all children, no different than are own children.
That will leave scars upon him.
Pusy ass adults should do it themselves and leave the kids out of it.
Ok, so, I got experience and training. What specific research in your training pertains to this claim?
Everything I've read and heard in the fields of psychology and neurology suggests the opposite.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Ok, so, I got experience and training. What specific research in your training pertains to this claim?
Everything I've read and heard in the fields of psychology and neurology suggests the opposite.
I do have extensive training in troubled youth. I am a social worker who worked with neglected, abused, and throwaway teens for many years. Kids are the same no matter where they live.
Yes, so what you have read people in these fields who say the opposite. BTW, please cite where you heard this.
I spent my entire life learning, doing research, and in the field about this.
Children are children regardless of where they are from. Their emotional maturity is not that of an adult...research that!!!
I find it stunning that anyone can't see that a 12 year old is not capable of fulling understanding what they have done, and at the same time knows what right and wrong. It is outside presures that make him belive this is the norm, but a child knows.
My research and training has been over 20 years and specialized in children, regardless of where they are from.
I can' give any specific research now, cuz there is so much.
I would love to see you reseach. I bet it is either non-existant or from some research that can easily be disproved.
Even commom sense should let one know that a 12 year old decapitating someone, then holding their bloody head would at least give mightmares, and some long range problems.
Geez, its not rocket science.
Did you decapitate someone at 12 and then hold their bloody head for the media? Do you honestly think you'd have no long lasting effects from that?
COMMON SENSE!
I do have extensive training in troubled youth. I am a social worker who worked with neglected, abused, and throwaway teens for many years. Kids are the same no matter where they live.
Yes, so what you have read people in these fields who say the opposite. BTW, please cite where you heard this.
I spent my entire life learning, doing research, and in the field about this.
Children are children regardless of where they are from. Their emotional maturity is not that of an adult...research that!!!
I find it stunning that anyone can't see that a 12 year old is not capable of fulling understanding what they have done, and at the same time knows what right and wrong. It is outside presures that make him belive this is the norm, but a child knows.
My research and training has been over 20 years and specialized in children, regardless of where they are from.
I can' give any specific research now, cuz there is so much.
I would love to see you reseach. I bet it is either non-existant or from some research that can easily be disproved.
Even commom sense should let one know that a 12 year old decapitating someone, then holding their bloody head would at least give mightmares, and some long range problems.
Geez, its not rocket science.
Did you decapitate someone at 12 and then hold their bloody head for the media? Do you honestly think you'd have no long lasting effects from that?
COMMON SENSE!
Well, I believe in Tabula Rasa, you are suggesting Innate Purity and I don't think it's that popular of a view amongst psychologists. According to the work of Margaret Mead children in a primative society don't waste time thinking about spirits, gods, easter bunnies, those are things we've taught our children to be concerned with in western soceities. As for neurology, it's pretty well known that the brain is nothing without sensory input to adapt to.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
children in a primative society don't waste time thinking about spirits, gods, easter bunnies, those are things we've taught our children to be concerned with in western soceities. As for neurology, it's pretty well known that the brain is nothing without sensory input to adapt to.
Children in a primItive society may not bother with the easter bunny but they will definitely with spirits and whatever their gods are.... theire parents teach them that just as we teach our kids in western societies.
So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
Wrong.. you may chop heads off because you HAVE to... not because you enjoy it.... you know it's wrong but you do it because if not, there may be repercussions.
There have been numerous interviews with child soldiers when adults and what they were relating was harrowing... they knew it was wrong, they knew they were going to pay for it later (yes - spiritualism), but they still did it because ADULTS were telling them to do it... growing up, it became a 'way of life' even if they still knew it was wrong.... A number of them, having escaped the 'system' that forced them into evil acts, committed suicide because they couldn't live with what they did...
Children in a primItive society may not bother with the easter bunny but they will definitely with spirits and whatever their gods are.... theire parents teach them that just as we teach our kids in western societies.
Wrong.. you may chop heads off because you HAVE to... not because you enjoy it.... you know it's wrong but you do it because if not, there may be repercussions.
There have been numerous interviews with child soldiers when adults and what they were relating was harrowing... they knew it was wrong, they knew they were going to pay for it later (yes - spiritualism), but they still did it because ADULTS were telling them to do it... growing up, it became a 'way of life' even if they still knew it was wrong.... A number of them, having escaped the 'system' that forced them into evil acts, committed suicide because they couldn't live with what they did...
Mead tells of Growing Up in New Guinea. "Margaret Mead told us how she came to the research problem on which she based her Growing Up in New Guinea. She reasoned as follows: If primitive adults think in an animistic way, as Piaget says our children do, how do primitive children think?
"In her research on Manus Island of New Guinea, she discovered that 'primitive' children think in a very practical way and begin to think in terms of spirits etc. as they get older. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead
In all cultures killing is wrong for the most part and kids are taught so. If they are taken into the fringe and put in that position, yes they will feel it's wrong. But no child ever thought killing a boar was wrong when it came to food. Nowadays some kids do, as their parents are vegetarians.
The island of Papua New Guinea is popular for researchers because of cultural diversity. I don't have a source right now, but there is a tribe that actually raids other tribes and steals their children, the children grow up to do the same.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
So, what I'm saying is if you grew up eating sushi, you probably like sushi. If you grow up chopping heads off "traitors" and "heretics" then you probably enjoy it.
Apples and Oranges.
Its like saying if you grew up eating spinach, you might like it, but if you grew up being raped by step-father, I don't think you end up liking it.
Bad Example, buddy.
Apples and Oranges.
Its like saying if you grew up eating spinach, you might like it, but if you grew up being raped by step-father, I don't think you end up liking it.
Bad Example, buddy.
Actually some girls would like it, they may say they don't, but people often lie.
Well, I'm really not interested in arguing with you about it. I was just interested where you got that belief from, and personal experience, is about it. So now I know.
And just to give you a challenging opposition, check out infant synaptogenesis and stuff, read up on how the brain works, because there is not much innate with the brain, certainly not morality.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Actually some girls would like it, they may say they don't, but people often lie.
Well, I'm really not interested in arguing with you about it. I was just interested where you got that belief from, and personal experience, is about it. So now I know.
And just to give you a challenging opposition, check out infant synaptogenesis and stuff, read up on how the brain works, because there is not much innate with the brain, certainly not morality.
i agree morality is not innate. it is a social construct.
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lie beside me
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Actually some girls would like it, they may say they don't, but people often lie.
Well, I'm really not interested in arguing with you about it. I was just interested where you got that belief from, and personal experience, is about it. So now I know.
And just to give you a challenging opposition, check out infant synaptogenesis and stuff, read up on how the brain works, because there is not much innate with the brain, certainly not morality.
Some days you make me physically sick to my stomach.
Some days you make me physically sick to my stomach.
I think today is one of those days.
Sorry, but the truth is often bitter, and being a person who women tend to confide their stories in, I've heard many women say that when they were abused as a child they strangley liked it. I know it's a horrible thing, but none-the-less it is a reality and reality isn't always sweet, it's often bitter.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Yes, and researchers into morality find that in some exponential way morality relates to selfishness and in ways is driven by global capitalism, but that's a bit grey.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Sorry, but the truth is often bitter, and being a person who women tend to confide their stories in, I've heard many women say that when they were abused as a child they strangley liked it. I know it's a horrible thing, but none-the-less it is a reality and reality isn't always sweet, it's often bitter.
You are so full of rubbish..
Women and young girls NEVER enjoy rape. Rape is about POWER and VIOLENCE. It is the total humiliation of a woman/young girl - it takes away all her dignity reducing her to an object. It is degrading. You are foul to continue to propagate such a revolting myth.
Sorry, but the truth is often bitter, and being a person who women tend to confide their stories in, I've heard many women say that when they were abused as a child they strangley liked it. I know it's a horrible thing, but none-the-less it is a reality and reality isn't always sweet, it's often bitter.
Interesting that you choose, yet again, to jump to personal anecdote when it suits you.
Let us not pretend that you are unaware of the psychology behind this or the "science" of it as it where.
Or that by making the offhand comment that you have that you aren't attempting to in someway minimize the trauma or place a seriously unhealthy slant to the situation.
I am well aware of how some survivors describe their abuse.
I am also well aware that you are more than capable of understanding it too, you simply have chosen not to in this circumstance for whatever twisted reason.
Women and young girls NEVER enjoy rape. Rape is about POWER and VIOLENCE. It is the total humiliation of a woman/young girl - it takes away all her dignity reducing her to an object. It is degrading. You are foul to continue to propagate such a revolting myth.
Uh, it's not a myth, and are we talking about forced rape, violent rape, date rape, or childhood sexual abuse, because there are differences.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
that train of thought is what keeps men abusing women. i know a guy who started seeing an attached woman. and used her and was abusive to her. and thought that riuning a couples life was a joke. people like that make me sick inside. and to talk the way you are. it will only bring more bad things to others and possibly yourself as well
Interesting that you choose, yet again, to jump to personal anecdote when it suits you.
Let us not pretend that you are unaware of the psychology behind this or the "science" of it as it where.
Or that by making the offhand comment that you have that you aren't attempting to in someway minimize the trauma or place a seriously unhealthy slant to the situation.
I am well aware of how some survivors describe their abuse.
I am also well aware that you are more than capable of understanding it too, you simply have chosen not to in this circumstance for whatever twisted reason.
Hence me being sick to my stomach.
Jeanie, I really don't give a shit if it makes you sick, and I don't know what the rest of you said actually means. It makes no sense to me. I'm not using embellisments, I'm not glorifying anything as you so often do. I'm just stating reality as it represents it's self to me, through my experience and those around me, a lot of that just happens to include a lot of reading of science and philosophy and junk. But again, it doesn't matter if it makes you sick, that's your choice to get sick about it. I'm just stating the unglorified, un-spiced, and un-fabricated truth.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Uh, it's not a myth, and are we talking about forced rape, violent rape, date rape, or childhood sexual abuse, because there are differences.
There is no difference.... rape, as defined in the dictionary is: "any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person" whether that person is a child, woman or man, is rape. Whether it is a one off act or sustained over a period of time. And fyi, sexual contact is not limited to penetration.
I could give you links to so many sites regarding rape, rape crisis centres, etc. but that would be playing your game, and I will not do so, because there is no game to be played, no debate about this.
that train of thought is what keeps men abusing women. i know a guy who started seeing an attached woman. and used her and was abusive to her. and thought that riuning a couples life was a joke. people like that make me sick inside. and to talk the way you are. it will only bring more bad things to others and possibly yourself as well
Yea, and I actually know an adult woman that likes to get beat up during sex like her father used to do to her.
People like to get shit on and jab nails through their balls.
People are fucked up, it's not my fault.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Jeanie, I really don't give a shit if it makes you sick, and I don't know what the rest of you said actually means. It makes no sense to me. I'm not using embellisments, I'm not glorifying anything as you so often do. I'm just stating reality as it represents it's self to me, through my experience and those around me, a lot of that just happens to include a lot of reading of science and philosophy and junk. But again, it doesn't matter if it makes you sick, that's your choice to get sick about it. I'm just stating the unglorified, un-spiced, and un-fabricated truth.
Truth as you see it. Which is not the truth as it is.
How typical of you to play the "I don't understand" card when it suits you.
You understand what I'm saying just fine.
You choose to use your superiority complex, fine.
You choose to negate me YET AGAIN, fine.
Frankly I'm tired of your childish self absorbed pontification and like you, I don't really give a shit what you think.
But really, you should try being a bit more honest.
Instead of presenting your half cocked comments about women, maybe use some of the superior intellect you give yourself so much credit for and actually post the full story about WHY some women, may have physical reactions to sexually stimuli and then post the FULL story as to the psychological ramifications of sexual abuse. I mean you've been rabbitting on for weeks now about how none of us really FEEL anything emotionally, it's all in our brain. All about hormones and the like. SO Ryan, stands to reason that if someone did have a pleasurable reaction that it is only their brain at work and would also follow that this would lead to further trauma. I'm quite sure you are well aware of this but you get off on being suggestive.
It's creepy and misogynistic if you don't tell the full story or you choose this subject to go all personal anecdote on us.
But then it's what I'm coming to expect from you.
BUT you don't care, because you are soooo much better than me. I keep forgetting.
Yea, and I actually know an adult woman that likes to get beat up during sex like her father used to do to her.
People like to get shit on and jab nails through their balls.
People are fucked up, it's not my fault.
Hope you are planning to find some statistics and studies to back this up otherwise it's just your opinion and not scientifically worth the type wasted on it.
Hope you are planning to find some statistics and studies to back this up otherwise it's just your opinion and not scientifically worth the type wasted on it.
Let it be Jeanie.. you are right where he wants you to be.. biting his bait so he can respond with yet another similar post.. ignore this kind of shit. The point was made about his ignoble and noxious statement.. no further acknowledgement of his post is necessary.
Let it be Jeanie.. you are right where he wants you to be.. biting his bait so he can respond with yet another similar post.. ignore this kind of shit. The point was made about his ignoble and noxious statement.. no further acknowledgement of his post is necessary.
Truth as you see it. Which is not the truth as it is.
How typical of you to play the "I don't understand" card when it suits you.
You understand what I'm saying just fine.
You choose to use your superiority complex, fine.
You choose to negate me YET AGAIN, fine.
Frankly I'm tired of your childish self absorbed pontification and like you, I don't really give a shit what you think.
But really, you should try being a bit more honest.
Instead of presenting your half cocked comments about women, maybe use some of the superior intellect you give yourself so much credit for and actually post the full story about WHY some women, may have physical reactions to sexually stimuli and then post the FULL story as to the psychological ramifications of sexual abuse. I mean you've been rabbitting on for weeks now about how none of us really FEEL anything emotionally, it's all in our brain. All about hormones and the like. SO Ryan, stands to reason that if someone did have a pleasurable reaction that it is only their brain at work and would also follow that this would lead to further trauma. I'm quite sure you are well aware of this but you get off on being suggestive.
It's creepy and misogynistic if you don't tell the full story or you choose this subject to go all personal anecdote on us.
But then it's what I'm coming to expect from you.
BUT you don't care, because you are soooo much better than me. I keep forgetting.
I don't exactly know why, ok?
Probably just biological functions triggered by stimuli. I shouldn't really have to explain that, but whatever. Jeanie, I don't care.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Hope you are planning to find some statistics and studies to back this up otherwise it's just your opinion and not scientifically worth the type wasted on it.
Well it wouldn't exactly be appropriate to post videos of people shitting on each other here, but if you really want to see it, sign up for an account at empornium.us and filter out everything but piss/shit/scat.
As for men driving nails through their balls, it used to be hosted on rotten.com but it's not on their anymore, but if you google "nails through balls" I'm sure you will find it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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you don't really need to degrade my attempt to be friendly either...everyone here knows i have ocd and have severe issues with social anxiety...
whatever, i've pm'd almost everyone here that i've disagreed with on issues...it's my way of getting to know other perspectives. i don't think you'd disagree...you airing my pm in the way you did was pretty bush. i'm sure most people would agree.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
"what did your dad do to you?" is your way of getting to know other perspectives?
gimme a break.
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All the while, the kids will do what we tell them, becuase we are the adults, but they know...I know I always knew when something an adult, be it my parents, teachers, church, or school said was okay.
Yet, kids will do what they are told, mainly because the conflict of obeying elders, and the falsehood that adults are right, not to mention wanting the adults to be proud and to not be punished, called names or ostrized.
My career was working with troubles teens and I had 3 of my own. Oh, and I was one once.
And my education in field taught me all of this too, besides training on the job.
No one can tell me a 12 year old, from any walk of life, can not be harmed by doing such an act.
They are all children, no different than are own children.
That will leave scars upon him.
Pusy ass adults should do it themselves and leave the kids out of it.
Ok, so, I got experience and training. What specific research in your training pertains to this claim?
Everything I've read and heard in the fields of psychology and neurology suggests the opposite.
Yes, so what you have read people in these fields who say the opposite. BTW, please cite where you heard this.
I spent my entire life learning, doing research, and in the field about this.
Children are children regardless of where they are from. Their emotional maturity is not that of an adult...research that!!!
I find it stunning that anyone can't see that a 12 year old is not capable of fulling understanding what they have done, and at the same time knows what right and wrong. It is outside presures that make him belive this is the norm, but a child knows.
My research and training has been over 20 years and specialized in children, regardless of where they are from.
I can' give any specific research now, cuz there is so much.
I would love to see you reseach. I bet it is either non-existant or from some research that can easily be disproved.
Even commom sense should let one know that a 12 year old decapitating someone, then holding their bloody head would at least give mightmares, and some long range problems.
Geez, its not rocket science.
Did you decapitate someone at 12 and then hold their bloody head for the media? Do you honestly think you'd have no long lasting effects from that?
COMMON SENSE!
Well, I believe in Tabula Rasa, you are suggesting Innate Purity and I don't think it's that popular of a view amongst psychologists. According to the work of Margaret Mead children in a primative society don't waste time thinking about spirits, gods, easter bunnies, those are things we've taught our children to be concerned with in western soceities. As for neurology, it's pretty well known that the brain is nothing without sensory input to adapt to.
Wrong.. you may chop heads off because you HAVE to... not because you enjoy it.... you know it's wrong but you do it because if not, there may be repercussions.
There have been numerous interviews with child soldiers when adults and what they were relating was harrowing... they knew it was wrong, they knew they were going to pay for it later (yes - spiritualism), but they still did it because ADULTS were telling them to do it... growing up, it became a 'way of life' even if they still knew it was wrong.... A number of them, having escaped the 'system' that forced them into evil acts, committed suicide because they couldn't live with what they did...
In all cultures killing is wrong for the most part and kids are taught so. If they are taken into the fringe and put in that position, yes they will feel it's wrong. But no child ever thought killing a boar was wrong when it came to food. Nowadays some kids do, as their parents are vegetarians.
The island of Papua New Guinea is popular for researchers because of cultural diversity. I don't have a source right now, but there is a tribe that actually raids other tribes and steals their children, the children grow up to do the same.
Its like saying if you grew up eating spinach, you might like it, but if you grew up being raped by step-father, I don't think you end up liking it.
Bad Example, buddy.
Actually some girls would like it, they may say they don't, but people often lie.
Well, I'm really not interested in arguing with you about it. I was just interested where you got that belief from, and personal experience, is about it. So now I know.
And just to give you a challenging opposition, check out infant synaptogenesis and stuff, read up on how the brain works, because there is not much innate with the brain, certainly not morality.
i agree morality is not innate. it is a social construct.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Some days you make me physically sick to my stomach.
I think today is one of those days.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
...but pain, fear, survival, self-preservation....
Sorry, but the truth is often bitter, and being a person who women tend to confide their stories in, I've heard many women say that when they were abused as a child they strangley liked it. I know it's a horrible thing, but none-the-less it is a reality and reality isn't always sweet, it's often bitter.
Yes, and researchers into morality find that in some exponential way morality relates to selfishness and in ways is driven by global capitalism, but that's a bit grey.
You are so full of rubbish..
Women and young girls NEVER enjoy rape. Rape is about POWER and VIOLENCE. It is the total humiliation of a woman/young girl - it takes away all her dignity reducing her to an object. It is degrading. You are foul to continue to propagate such a revolting myth.
Interesting that you choose, yet again, to jump to personal anecdote when it suits you.
Let us not pretend that you are unaware of the psychology behind this or the "science" of it as it where.
Or that by making the offhand comment that you have that you aren't attempting to in someway minimize the trauma or place a seriously unhealthy slant to the situation.
I am well aware of how some survivors describe their abuse.
I am also well aware that you are more than capable of understanding it too, you simply have chosen not to in this circumstance for whatever twisted reason.
Hence me being sick to my stomach.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Uh, it's not a myth, and are we talking about forced rape, violent rape, date rape, or childhood sexual abuse, because there are differences.
Jeanie, I really don't give a shit if it makes you sick, and I don't know what the rest of you said actually means. It makes no sense to me. I'm not using embellisments, I'm not glorifying anything as you so often do. I'm just stating reality as it represents it's self to me, through my experience and those around me, a lot of that just happens to include a lot of reading of science and philosophy and junk. But again, it doesn't matter if it makes you sick, that's your choice to get sick about it. I'm just stating the unglorified, un-spiced, and un-fabricated truth.
I could give you links to so many sites regarding rape, rape crisis centres, etc. but that would be playing your game, and I will not do so, because there is no game to be played, no debate about this.
I hate to think what kind of reading.
Yea, and I actually know an adult woman that likes to get beat up during sex like her father used to do to her.
People like to get shit on and jab nails through their balls.
People are fucked up, it's not my fault.
Truth as you see it. Which is not the truth as it is.
How typical of you to play the "I don't understand" card when it suits you.
You understand what I'm saying just fine.
You choose to use your superiority complex, fine.
You choose to negate me YET AGAIN, fine.
Frankly I'm tired of your childish self absorbed pontification and like you, I don't really give a shit what you think.
But really, you should try being a bit more honest.
Instead of presenting your half cocked comments about women, maybe use some of the superior intellect you give yourself so much credit for and actually post the full story about WHY some women, may have physical reactions to sexually stimuli and then post the FULL story as to the psychological ramifications of sexual abuse. I mean you've been rabbitting on for weeks now about how none of us really FEEL anything emotionally, it's all in our brain. All about hormones and the like. SO Ryan, stands to reason that if someone did have a pleasurable reaction that it is only their brain at work and would also follow that this would lead to further trauma. I'm quite sure you are well aware of this but you get off on being suggestive.
It's creepy and misogynistic if you don't tell the full story or you choose this subject to go all personal anecdote on us.
But then it's what I'm coming to expect from you.
BUT you don't care, because you are soooo much better than me. I keep forgetting.
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Hope you are planning to find some statistics and studies to back this up otherwise it's just your opinion and not scientifically worth the type wasted on it.
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Sorry rr. You are right, of course.
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I don't exactly know why, ok?
Probably just biological functions triggered by stimuli. I shouldn't really have to explain that, but whatever. Jeanie, I don't care.
Well it wouldn't exactly be appropriate to post videos of people shitting on each other here, but if you really want to see it, sign up for an account at empornium.us and filter out everything but piss/shit/scat.
As for men driving nails through their balls, it used to be hosted on rotten.com but it's not on their anymore, but if you google "nails through balls" I'm sure you will find it.