Rabbi Against Israel (Fox news interview)

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  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    MrBrian wrote:
    The arabs hate Israel because of the way it was formed, it's not conjecture, it's fact and israel is still hated because of the way it continues to act, again fact.

    I also don't think you even know what Semitism means, infact it's fairly obvious you have no idea what it means.

    and because israel won many wars, does that mean that they were right? so it's fine to take what is not yours but as long as you are able to fend for it it's alright? you are such a silly person.

    Tell us Mr. History. Just exactly how was Israel formed....Im waiting with bated breath for your interpretation of it.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
    Churchill to the Palestine Royal Commission (1937)
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    the face wrote:
    Tell us Mr. History. Just exactly how was Israel formed....Im waiting with bated breath for your interpretation of it.

    Under the Shadow of the British gun - Mahatma Gandhi
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    El_Kabong wrote:
    "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
    Churchill to the Palestine Royal Commission (1937)

    harsh, I didn't realize Churchill was such an ass.

    I'm going to go kill my neighbor now, because I can and that makes me better.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    El_Kabong wrote:
    "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
    Churchill to the Palestine Royal Commission (1937)

    And you quite properly identified the primary culprit behind the Israeli - Palestinian dilemna today. Churchill and the British......
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Ahnimus wrote:
    harsh, I didn't realize Churchill was such an ass.

    I'm going to go kill my neighbor now, because I can and that makes me better.

    That you missed a few history classes Mr. Ahnimus. You need not announce it.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    the face wrote:
    That you missed a few history classes Mr. Ahnimus. You need not announce it.

    Umm....

    I don't want to continue to communicate this way "the face".

    If you are capable of communicating on a more respectable level, I will join you.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Can you really create a post with nothing more than a video of some rabbi speaking against israel and NOT think your going to piss off every jew on the board? You cant be that stupid....Or maybe you can. How can conduct like this not be seen as offensive to any jewish person whether they support israel or not? This is why the phrase anti-semite is being thrown around. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....its usually a duck.
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    Ahnimus wrote:
    No, I'm not making excuses. I'm identifying the reasons that people act. Listen, in life, people act in certain ways. As individuals we can not control the way others act, we can only control the way we act.

    I know that if I go to a bar and deliberately hit on some dudes girl, there is going to be trouble. So I don't do it. I don't think he is in the right for getting violently defensive of his woman, but I know how people react, so I try to avoid it.

    Worry about your own actions and try not to instigate people like. I'll tell you, and it's probably apparent. I get awefully sick of people flinging anti-semitist stickers on anyone that mentions Israel in a critical manner. It leads me to believe that that's all Israelis know how to do. It doesn't stick, there is no substance to those claims, it's just fucking annoying.

    People don't call everyone that criticizes Israel an anti-semite. look at mammasan. he/she has criticized Israeli policies and no one got all defensive about it. all that happened was a discussion of what had been said. the difference is that the criticism wasn't presented in a tone that screamed blind hatred and mammasan didn't make any classically anti-semitic remarks about the Jews controlling the media or America or world financial markets, and there were no comments about the holocaust being cosmic come-uppence for the evil wrought by the Jews, and so forth and so on. go ahead and criticize Israel. that's fine. it's when your criticism of Israel goes starts to sound blindly hateful that people start thinking that perhaps there is something more sinister lurking behind your words (your here is general, just so you don't get immediatly defensive).
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm not dismissing anti-semitism, but I believe the term does get thrown around a bit much. Also for you information I know the history of anti-semetism. My ancestors where Spainish Jews who where forced to convert to Christianity or suffer. So there is need to preach to me about anti-semetism. Also as a hispanic I've had to face racism as well. So I know how to see behind a veil that some racist may hide behind. It was never much of an issue on this board, as of lately though it has, where any disagreement with Israel or any hint of not being pro-zionist automatically gets you branded an anti-semite, which I find repulsive. I'm sure you would not approve of me calling everyone who is in favor of deporting illegal immigranst racist simply because the majority are hispanic.

    I don't think any criticism of Israel gets you branded an anti-semite. you have made comments critical of Israeli policy and I wouldn't say that you are an anti-semite. that said, some of the other people posting on the train are so blindly hateful that I cannot help but be put on edge by their comments, and when people start actually making comments about Jewish control of the media and the financial system and American policy, all of which are classically anti-semitic paranoia, then it is hard not to come to the conclusion that at some level they are either actively anti-semitic, or at the very least have internalized anti-semitism to some extent.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    dayan wrote:
    People don't call everyone that criticizes Israel an anti-semite. look at mammasan. he/she has criticized Israeli policies and no one got all defensive about it. all that happened was a discussion of what had been said. the difference is that the criticism wasn't presented in a tone that screamed blind hatred and mammasan didn't make any classically anti-semitic remarks about the Jews controlling the media or America or world financial markets, and there were no comments about the holocaust being cosmic come-uppence for the evil wrought by the Jews, and so forth and so on. go ahead and criticize Israel. that's fine. it's when your criticism of Israel goes starts to sound blindly hateful that people start thinking that perhaps there is something more sinister lurking behind your words (your here is general, just so you don't get immediatly defensive).

    Excuse me? Classical anti-semitic remarks? WTF is that?

    Dude, I am part of a group of wife-beaters, indian killers and black oppressors. I take that shit all the time, because it was true. Don't be so blind that you can't see your own race history. No one is calling for the death of Jews or anything of the sort. Just identifying with specific events and using logic to understand the present.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    classic anti-semitic remarks in that the same ideas have been used over and over and over again to stir up fear and hatred of Jews. Ideas such as Jewish control of finance, or the media, or of the world, etc, etc, none of which is true. I have no problem with talking about the history of my people. However my people has never controlled the media, or finance, or America. All of these beliefs are anti-semitic and have very long histories in the West, which is why I call them classically anti-semitic.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    dayan wrote:
    classic anti-semitic remarks in that the same ideas have been used over and over and over again to stir up fear and hatred of Jews. Ideas such as Jewish control of finance, or the media, or of the world, etc, etc, none of which is true. I have no problem with talking about the history of my people. However my people has never controlled the media, or finance, or America. All of these beliefs are anti-semitic and have very long histories in the West, which is why I call them classically anti-semitic.

    So, the Rothschilds aren't Jewish?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    dayan wrote:
    classic anti-semitic remarks in that the same ideas have been used over and over and over again to stir up fear and hatred of Jews. Ideas such as Jewish control of finance, or the media, or of the world, etc, etc, none of which is true. I have no problem with talking about the history of my people. However my people has never controlled the media, or finance, or America. All of these beliefs are anti-semitic and have very long histories in the West, which is why I call them classically anti-semitic.

    Actually, 96% of the media is 'controlled' by Jews because big media conglomerates are the hands of Jews, whether you look at AOL Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Vivendi, etc. Just think 'Rupert Murdoch'. Just stating.... nothing anti-semitic about this.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    redrock wrote:
    Actually, 96% of the media is 'controlled' by Jews because big media conglomerates are the hands of Jews, whether you look at AOL Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Vivendi, etc. Just think 'Rupert Murdoch'. Just stating.... nothing anti-semitic about this.

    Of course, that statement is meant to summon the demons of hell to wage war against God's chosen people. Or something like that. lol

    No, that's exactly it. I've also done the research.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Of course, that statement is meant to summon the demons of hell to wage war against God's chosen people. Or something like that. lol

    No, that's exactly it. I've also done the research.
    A friend's son is doing his media studies. Wrote a big paper on Murdoch and his far reaching tentacles! Scary... and again, I'm not saying this in a 'bash the jews' way (why do I feel I have to justify myself everytime). It's just scary that one person can have so much 'influence'.
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Umm....

    I don't want to continue to communicate this way "the face".

    If you are capable of communicating on a more respectable level, I will join you.
    as long as you continue with your moronic quotes ill post. if you dont like it. fucking leave
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Of course, that statement is meant to summon the demons of hell to wage war against God's chosen people. Or something like that. lol

    No, that's exactly it. I've also done the research.

    then how do you explain Mel Gibson still getting movie deals
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    dayan wrote:
    classic anti-semitic remarks in that the same ideas have been used over and over and over again to stir up fear and hatred of Jews. Ideas such as Jewish control of finance, or the media, or of the world, etc, etc, none of which is true. I have no problem with talking about the history of my people. However my people has never controlled the media, or finance, or America. All of these beliefs are anti-semitic and have very long histories in the West, which is why I call them classically anti-semitic.

    Himmler himself could not have written some of this shit better than Anus mouth.
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    dayan wrote:
    People don't call everyone that criticizes Israel an anti-semite. look at mammasan. he/she has criticized Israeli policies and no one got all defensive about it. all that happened was a discussion of what had been said. the difference is that the criticism wasn't presented in a tone that screamed blind hatred and mammasan didn't make any classically anti-semitic remarks about the Jews controlling the media or America or world financial markets, and there were no comments about the holocaust being cosmic come-uppence for the evil wrought by the Jews, and so forth and so on. go ahead and criticize Israel. that's fine. it's when your criticism of Israel goes starts to sound blindly hateful that people start thinking that perhaps there is something more sinister lurking behind your words (your here is general, just so you don't get immediatly defensive).
    mammasan has it right. anus mouth is just a nazi. clear as day

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