Himmler himself could not have written some of this shit better than Anus mouth.
I don't normally make use of the "Report Bad Post" button, because I assume that we can all communicate like adults when we calm down and learn to respect each other. Though, I'm starting to question that hypothesis.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I don't normally make use of the "Report Bad Post" button, because I assume that we can all communicate like adults when we calm down and learn to respect each other. Though, I'm starting to question that hypothesis.
your content is deplorable. you use profanity like a sailor and use this board to vent your clear anti semitism as demonstrated by Dayan. you clearly dont care who you offend. so report away. the worst that could happen is that I would not have to respond to your stupid shit anymore
your content is deplorable. you use profanity like a sailor and use this board to vent your clear anti semitism as demonstrated by Dayan. you clearly dont care who you offend. so report away. the worst that could happen is that I would not have to respond to your stupid shit anymore
Profanity isn't a measure of verbal abuse. As for being anti-semitic, I honestly don't care who or what a person is. You could be 8' tall, green with tentacles all over and I would still respect you. However, if you talk to me as you are currently doing, then I have no respect.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Himmler himself could not have written some of this shit better than Anus mouth.
You have got to stop saying things like that, they're directed to someone I don't even know and yet I find them extremely offensive.
I think the fun you have throwing words like nazi and calling people names like Himmler is because you have a vague idea what you're talking about.
My country was deeply touched (and was involved unfortunately) by the nazi regime. So much that my grand mother could tell me, on first hand, stories about these frightfull times. And no one should toss these words freely because no one here has lived in these times. So please stop using these words, thank you.
Another thing I frequently see is you telling others to get a history teacher and such. That's plain stupidity. Different schools offer different history lessons, so you're bound to say different countries offer different history lessons. I heard some of your wonderful insight on post-war history and I'm sorry to say this but : get a history teacher, I was taught otherwise.
And finally, I don't agree, at all, with some of Isreal's actions in the middle east, neither does my county, my continent, or the UN. We may all be a bunch of anti-semites but you have to admit, living the life of a palestinian today has got to be something really hard, and that sucks.
I knew a guy growing up. His name was Deter Van Holst. He was a German in the Nazi youth program and he served the Nazis. Absolutely horrifying. He was one of the nicest men I've ever met and I was saddened to see him pass away.
It made me think of the decent lives lost on both sides because of the Third Reich. The children that they brainwashed for their sadistic goals.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
They are Jewish, but I don't see the relevance of that. I know you believe that they control European finance, but my point is that is a false belief (which is anti-semitic I'm sorry to say).
Actually, 96% of the media is 'controlled' by Jews because big media conglomerates are the hands of Jews, whether you look at AOL Time Warner, Viacom, Disney, Vivendi, etc. Just think 'Rupert Murdoch'. Just stating.... nothing anti-semitic about this.
These are public companies with boards of trustees. I doubt very strongly that they do whatever the "Jews" tell them to do. Talking about the "Jews" controling the media makes it sound like there is a secret cabal of Jewish elders decidng what goes on the air. The companies you mention may be in the hands of Jews, but not entirely, and furthermore, what does the Jewishness of the people who may or may not control these companies have to do with anything. Why should it matter that someone in media is Jewish. He/She thinks for him/herself. they don't take orders from the elders of zion for god's sake.
You have got to stop saying things like that, they're directed to someone I don't even know and yet I find them extremely offensive.
I think the fun you have throwing words like nazi and calling people names like Himmler is because you have a vague idea what you're talking about.
My country was deeply touched (and was involved unfortunately) by the nazi regime. So much that my grand mother could tell me, on first hand, stories about these frightfull times. And no one should toss these words freely because no one here has lived in these times. So please stop using these words, thank you.
Another thing I frequently see is you telling others to get a history teacher and such. That's plain stupidity. Different schools offer different history lessons, so you're bound to say different countries offer different history lessons. I heard some of your wonderful insight on post-war history and I'm sorry to say this but : get a history teacher, I was taught otherwise.
And finally, I don't agree, at all, with some of Isreal's actions in the middle east, neither does my county, my continent, or the UN. We may all be a bunch of anti-semites but you have to admit, living the life of a palestinian today has got to be something really hard, and that sucks.
Obviously your European. Not a surprise you rush to the defense of someone who in fact does espouse the same kind of generalizations about jews and finance that in fact WAS part of the nazi doctrine. I am not throwing there terms around loosely at all. And I am not surprised you were taught history differently they we were taught it. You're clearly European. And as such, your history is going to be watered down. Especially, as you admit, your country participated in the crimes. So you are clearly not unbiased.
Obviously your European. Not a surprise you rush to the defense of someone who in fact does espouse the same kind of generalizations about jews and finance that in fact WAS part of the nazi doctrine. I am not throwing there terms around loosely at all. And I am not surprised you were taught history differently they we were taught it. You're clearly European. And as such, your history is going to be watered down. Especially, as you admit, your country participated in the crimes. So you are clearly not unbiased.
This might be a bit unfair. If anything, many European countries stress the holocaust in their education systems more than it is stressed in America.
They are Jewish, but I don't see the relevance of that. I know you believe that they control European finance, but my point is that is a false belief (which is anti-semitic I'm sorry to say).
You will see that it controls all of America's money and has been presided over by Jewish people, since, forever. Doesn't seem right if Jews are a minority. Furthermore the American National Debt is owed to private foreign investors, that are Jews.
President Andrew Jackson was aware of this and tried to fight off the International Banks, but was beat by their control of money.
You only have to look up Rothschild history to see the far reaching control they have.
The company does most of its business as an M&A advisor. According to the Dealogic league tables it has a strong position in Paris and London but remains a relatively weak player in New York City. The group's ranking is number 4 among European advisers (by announced mergers and acquisitions year-to-date October 2004) with 160 deals with a value of $137.08 billion, and globally as number 9 with 197 deals with a value of $150.50 billion. Goldman Sachs leads in both Europe and globally with 258 deals worth $448.98 billion.
The annual revenue of the Rothschild group (http://www.rothschild.com) is €828 million with a shareholder equity of €1 billion (2003). To compete more effectively with the New York giants the Rothschild groups main branches in Paris, London, and New York merged into one holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, under David de Rothschild's leadership. David de Rothschild is opposed to an IPO, much like competitor Lazard's former chairman Michel David-Weill, although Lazard finally went public in 2005 after Wall Street banker Bruce Wasserstein entered the company. 20% of Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG was sold in 2005 to Jardine Strategic which is a subsidiary of Jardine, Matheson & Co. of Hong Kong.
Simon de Rothschild, the son of Robert de Rothschild, heads the Canadian Northern Railway, and its subsidiaries, as well as a number of mining and industrial operations.
Another descendant of James, Edmond de Rothschild (1926-1997) founded the LCF Rothschild Group, based in Geneva, which today extends to 15 countries across the world. The group's primary businesses include Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild S.A., La Compagnie Benjamin de Rothschild S.A., and COGIFRANCE. Although this Group is primarily a financial entity, specialising in asset management and private banking, its activities also cover winemaking (with estates in Bordeaux, South Africa and Argentina), mixed farming, luxury hotels and yacht racing. The LCF Rothschild Group is currently presided over by Benjamin de Rothschild, Baron Edmond's son.
Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild is the Chairman of RIT Capital Partners, the UK's largest investment trust.
The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.
Now, I'm not saying all Jews, but the Jewish strive for wealth and education kind of puts them in the spotlight.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Goldman Sachs was founded in 1869 by Marcus Goldman[1], a Jewish immigrant, *1821 in Burgebrach, Germany
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
You will see that it controls all of America's money and has been presided over by Jewish people, since, forever. Doesn't seem right if Jews are a minority. Furthermore the American National Debt is owed to private foreign investors, that are Jews.
President Andrew Jackson was aware of this and tried to fight off the International Banks, but was beat by their control of money.
You only have to look up Rothschild history to see the far reaching control they have.
The company does most of its business as an M&A advisor. According to the Dealogic league tables it has a strong position in Paris and London but remains a relatively weak player in New York City. The group's ranking is number 4 among European advisers (by announced mergers and acquisitions year-to-date October 2004) with 160 deals with a value of $137.08 billion, and globally as number 9 with 197 deals with a value of $150.50 billion. Goldman Sachs leads in both Europe and globally with 258 deals worth $448.98 billion.
The annual revenue of the Rothschild group (http://www.rothschild.com) is €828 million with a shareholder equity of €1 billion (2003). To compete more effectively with the New York giants the Rothschild groups main branches in Paris, London, and New York merged into one holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, under David de Rothschild's leadership. David de Rothschild is opposed to an IPO, much like competitor Lazard's former chairman Michel David-Weill, although Lazard finally went public in 2005 after Wall Street banker Bruce Wasserstein entered the company. 20% of Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG was sold in 2005 to Jardine Strategic which is a subsidiary of Jardine, Matheson & Co. of Hong Kong.
Simon de Rothschild, the son of Robert de Rothschild, heads the Canadian Northern Railway, and its subsidiaries, as well as a number of mining and industrial operations.
Another descendant of James, Edmond de Rothschild (1926-1997) founded the LCF Rothschild Group, based in Geneva, which today extends to 15 countries across the world. The group's primary businesses include Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild S.A., La Compagnie Benjamin de Rothschild S.A., and COGIFRANCE. Although this Group is primarily a financial entity, specialising in asset management and private banking, its activities also cover winemaking (with estates in Bordeaux, South Africa and Argentina), mixed farming, luxury hotels and yacht racing. The LCF Rothschild Group is currently presided over by Benjamin de Rothschild, Baron Edmond's son.
Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild is the Chairman of RIT Capital Partners, the UK's largest investment trust.
The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.
Now, I'm not saying all Jews, but the Jewish strive for wealth and education kind of puts them in the spotlight.
OMG. Now Ive heard it all. Jews strive for wealth and education and they are in the spotlight? So one should strive for stupidity and poverty? Is that your aim? Seriously, get some help.
why do you stress the Jewishness of these people? If the head of the fed is Jewish what does it matter. his Jewishness doesn't come into his stewardship of the money supply. if a catholic were the head of the fed you wouldn't talk about Catholics controlling finance. If it was a protestant no one would say the protestants control finance. the point is that by fixating on the Jewishness of certain individuals when their Jewishness has nothing to do with how they do their jobs, you create the false impression that "the Jews" are manipulating the world for Jewish interests.
why do you stress the Jewishness of these people? If the head of the fed is Jewish what does it matter. his Jewishness doesn't come into his stewardship of the money supply. if a catholic were the head of the fed you wouldn't talk about Catholics controlling finance. If it was a protestant no one would say the protestants control finance. the point is that by fixating on the Jewishness of certain individuals when their Jewishness has nothing to do with how they do their jobs, you create the false impression that "the Jews" are manipulating the world for Jewish interests.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm simply saying that some Jews control the worlds finance. Even Lazard Ltd. Mentioned in that article is and was Jewish controlled.
I'm telling you this is why people like Hitler were anti-semitic.
As was said, the Jewish people have always been tightly knit, is it then such a stretch to think they may be acting in some way on behalf of Israel?
I mean, Israel took the barren Palestinian land and turned it into paradise. How? Where did all that money come from?
Yea, anyway, I don't care. I'm just stating the facts Jack.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
No, I'm not saying that. I'm simply saying that some Jews control the worlds finance. Even Lazard Ltd. Mentioned in that article is and was Jewish controlled.
I'm telling you this is why people like Hitler were anti-semitic.
As was said, the Jewish people have always been tightly knit, is it then such a stretch to think they may be acting in some way on behalf of Israel?
I mean, Israel took the barren Palestinian land and turned it into paradise. How? Where did all that money come from?
Yea, anyway, I don't care. I'm just stating the facts Jack.
My point is that people need to be careful and responsible in what they say. you personally may have no negative feelings towards Jews, but when you irresponsibly say something like "the Jews control finance" you create the conditions in which someone else can take what you said and it can feed their real hatred for Jews. Your comment is therefore anti-semitic not because of what it necessarily reflects about you and your opinions, but because of the damage it can cause. It is a broad generalization that has a distinctly negative connotation.
My point is that people need to be careful and responsible in what they say. you personally may have no negative feelings towards Jews, but when you irresponsibly say something like "the Jews control finance" you create the conditions in which someone else can take what you said and it can feed their real hatred for Jews. Your comment is therefore anti-semitic not because of what it necessarily reflects about you and your opinions, but because of the damage it can cause. It is a broad generalization that has a distinctly negative connotation.
I'm just stating the facts. I probably have Jewish blood in me. I have no idea. I personally don't care about where I come from or what my ancestors did, or even what my parents and siblings do.
But, some people, want to maintain that they are a "group" and then they will be treated as a "group" for all intents and purposes. That is the down-side of elitism.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
what does the Jewishness of the people who may or may not control these companies have to do with anything. Why should it matter that someone in media is Jewish. He/She thinks for him/herself. they don't take orders from the elders of zion for god's sake.
Nothing, as far as I am concerned. I was just stating a fact in response to a post the answer is there... at the helm of these companies are jews. Just an answer, nothing else - no judgement. Do I care? No. As far as I'm concerned, they can be catholic, satan worshippers, atheists, muslims or whatever they want to be.
And as such, your history is going to be watered down.
On the contrary. I have been educated both in the US and in various european countries. European teaching of history is a lot more indepth than in the US. Indepth but also broad...
You're clearly European. And as such, your history is going to be watered down. Especially, as you admit, your country participated in the crimes. So you are clearly not unbiased.
You have got to be kidding me, I may be European but I did go to school.
As for the other part I left out, I'm not defending anyone, I just don't like the term nazi and names like Himmel and Heinrich tossed around loosely (and please don't tell me otherwise, this is a forum not a propaganda book from 1939!).
You have got to be kidding me, I may be European but I did go to school.
As for the other part I left out, I'm not defending anyone, I just don't like the term nazi and names like Himmel and Heinrich tossed around loosely (and please don't tell me otherwise, this is a forum not a propaganda book from 1939!).
First of all its Himler. Not Himmel. What do you expect someone to say when there are people on this board espousing the Jews control the money crap. If that is not Nazi logic I don't know what is. I am sorry that word makes you uncomfortable. It should. It should make you uncomfortable that there are still people in this world who truly believe that Hitler did what he did because of Jewish control of finances. Scares the shit out of me man. It just seems to me we have not progressed much since 1939 otherwise the rest of you would recognize the clear anti semitism in those kinds of statements. But you don't. You defend that kind of talk which is even more frightening. Doesn't surprise me at all you are European.
What do you think motivated Hitler to act as he did "the face"?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
First of all its Himler. Not Himmel. What do you expect someone to say when there are people on this board espousing the Jews control the money crap. If that is not Nazi logic I don't know what is. I am sorry that word makes you uncomfortable. It should. It should make you uncomfortable that there are still people in this world who truly believe that Hitler did what he did because of Jewish control of finances. Scares the shit out of me man. It just seems to me we have not progressed much since 1939 otherwise the rest of you would recognize the clear anti semitism in those kinds of statements. But you don't. You defend that kind of talk which is even more frightening. Doesn't surprise me at all you are European.
this is a fair point. what have we come to when we we are more uncomfortable about someone accusing others of being racist than about racism itself. And I understand that many of you truly do not feel that anything anti-semitic has been said on the train, but I think that is because you are all so well meaning that you do not want to accept the truth of it and so blind yourself to it when it's right in front of you.
What do you think motivated Hitler to act as he did "the face"?
Hitler, in my opinion, believed what he preached. I'm sure that Hitler truly believed that Jews controlled the world and were the enemies of Germany and so on. The point though is that the beliefs that motivated him were just that, beliefs. But that doesn't mean that what Hitler believed was true. He was motivated by his own hateful and paranoid fantasies.
Hitler, in my opinion, believed what he preached. I'm sure that Hitler truly believed that Jews controlled the world and were the enemies of Germany and so on. The point though is that the beliefs that motivated him were just that, beliefs. But that doesn't mean that what Hitler believed was true. He was motivated by his own hateful and paranoid fantasies.
That was my only point.
But Hitler wasn't the only one. He had many people within his "Nazi Party". It would seem there was enough evidence to convince not just Hitler but the entire Nazi party. Or did they have other motives?
I understand the general population was persuaded into it by propaganda, but what of Hitler's closest allies? Surely they were not all paranoid and psychotic.
Again, I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just trying to understand the motivation.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
But Hitler wasn't the only one. He had many people within his "Nazi Party". It would seem there was enough evidence to convince not just Hitler but the entire Nazi party. Or did they have other motives?
I understand the general population was persuaded into it by propaganda, but what of Hitler's closest allies? Surely they were not all paranoid and psychotic.
Again, I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just trying to understand the motivation.
power and greed
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
But Hitler wasn't the only one. He had many people within his "Nazi Party". It would seem there was enough evidence to convince not just Hitler but the entire Nazi party. Or did they have other motives?
I understand the general population was persuaded into it by propaganda, but what of Hitler's closest allies? Surely they were not all paranoid and psychotic.
Again, I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just trying to understand the motivation.
Something other than Mein Kampf which apparently you have committed to memory. If you want to learn Ill be happy to present you with some reading material.
Yea, I could see that. They just went along with using Jews as a scapegoat to achieve their greedy goals.
I guess, I just have a hard time believing it actually happened that way. It seems that if it was that easy, it would happen everywhere, all the time. So then, I guess that implies that there is possibly a secret shadow world government.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
the cause of the conflict is that the arab world has never accepted Israel's right to exist. right of return, borders, water resources, etc, that's all details.
Convenient way to disregard the 36 year illegal occupation.
peace will only exist when the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to exist.
Why should anybody accept Israels right to exist whilst it continues to illegally occupy Palestinian land and flout international law.
Why is the onus always, and only, on the Palestinians?
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I don't normally make use of the "Report Bad Post" button, because I assume that we can all communicate like adults when we calm down and learn to respect each other. Though, I'm starting to question that hypothesis.
Profanity isn't a measure of verbal abuse. As for being anti-semitic, I honestly don't care who or what a person is. You could be 8' tall, green with tentacles all over and I would still respect you. However, if you talk to me as you are currently doing, then I have no respect.
You have got to stop saying things like that, they're directed to someone I don't even know and yet I find them extremely offensive.
I think the fun you have throwing words like nazi and calling people names like Himmler is because you have a vague idea what you're talking about.
My country was deeply touched (and was involved unfortunately) by the nazi regime. So much that my grand mother could tell me, on first hand, stories about these frightfull times. And no one should toss these words freely because no one here has lived in these times. So please stop using these words, thank you.
Another thing I frequently see is you telling others to get a history teacher and such. That's plain stupidity. Different schools offer different history lessons, so you're bound to say different countries offer different history lessons. I heard some of your wonderful insight on post-war history and I'm sorry to say this but : get a history teacher, I was taught otherwise.
And finally, I don't agree, at all, with some of Isreal's actions in the middle east, neither does my county, my continent, or the UN. We may all be a bunch of anti-semites but you have to admit, living the life of a palestinian today has got to be something really hard, and that sucks.
It made me think of the decent lives lost on both sides because of the Third Reich. The children that they brainwashed for their sadistic goals.
They are Jewish, but I don't see the relevance of that. I know you believe that they control European finance, but my point is that is a false belief (which is anti-semitic I'm sorry to say).
These are public companies with boards of trustees. I doubt very strongly that they do whatever the "Jews" tell them to do. Talking about the "Jews" controling the media makes it sound like there is a secret cabal of Jewish elders decidng what goes on the air. The companies you mention may be in the hands of Jews, but not entirely, and furthermore, what does the Jewishness of the people who may or may not control these companies have to do with anything. Why should it matter that someone in media is Jewish. He/She thinks for him/herself. they don't take orders from the elders of zion for god's sake.
Obviously your European. Not a surprise you rush to the defense of someone who in fact does espouse the same kind of generalizations about jews and finance that in fact WAS part of the nazi doctrine. I am not throwing there terms around loosely at all. And I am not surprised you were taught history differently they we were taught it. You're clearly European. And as such, your history is going to be watered down. Especially, as you admit, your country participated in the crimes. So you are clearly not unbiased.
This might be a bit unfair. If anything, many European countries stress the holocaust in their education systems more than it is stressed in America.
Ok, well I'm just telling the truth.
If you read through the history of say The Federal Reserve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve
You will see that it controls all of America's money and has been presided over by Jewish people, since, forever. Doesn't seem right if Jews are a minority. Furthermore the American National Debt is owed to private foreign investors, that are Jews.
President Andrew Jackson was aware of this and tried to fight off the International Banks, but was beat by their control of money.
You only have to look up Rothschild history to see the far reaching control they have.
The company does most of its business as an M&A advisor. According to the Dealogic league tables it has a strong position in Paris and London but remains a relatively weak player in New York City. The group's ranking is number 4 among European advisers (by announced mergers and acquisitions year-to-date October 2004) with 160 deals with a value of $137.08 billion, and globally as number 9 with 197 deals with a value of $150.50 billion. Goldman Sachs leads in both Europe and globally with 258 deals worth $448.98 billion.
The annual revenue of the Rothschild group (http://www.rothschild.com) is €828 million with a shareholder equity of €1 billion (2003). To compete more effectively with the New York giants the Rothschild groups main branches in Paris, London, and New York merged into one holding company, Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, under David de Rothschild's leadership. David de Rothschild is opposed to an IPO, much like competitor Lazard's former chairman Michel David-Weill, although Lazard finally went public in 2005 after Wall Street banker Bruce Wasserstein entered the company. 20% of Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG was sold in 2005 to Jardine Strategic which is a subsidiary of Jardine, Matheson & Co. of Hong Kong.
Simon de Rothschild, the son of Robert de Rothschild, heads the Canadian Northern Railway, and its subsidiaries, as well as a number of mining and industrial operations.
Another descendant of James, Edmond de Rothschild (1926-1997) founded the LCF Rothschild Group, based in Geneva, which today extends to 15 countries across the world. The group's primary businesses include Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild S.A., La Compagnie Benjamin de Rothschild S.A., and COGIFRANCE. Although this Group is primarily a financial entity, specialising in asset management and private banking, its activities also cover winemaking (with estates in Bordeaux, South Africa and Argentina), mixed farming, luxury hotels and yacht racing. The LCF Rothschild Group is currently presided over by Benjamin de Rothschild, Baron Edmond's son.
Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild is the Chairman of RIT Capital Partners, the UK's largest investment trust.
The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.
Now, I'm not saying all Jews, but the Jewish strive for wealth and education kind of puts them in the spotlight.
Goldman Sachs was founded in 1869 by Marcus Goldman[1], a Jewish immigrant, *1821 in Burgebrach, Germany
OMG. Now Ive heard it all. Jews strive for wealth and education and they are in the spotlight? So one should strive for stupidity and poverty? Is that your aim? Seriously, get some help.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm simply saying that some Jews control the worlds finance. Even Lazard Ltd. Mentioned in that article is and was Jewish controlled.
I'm telling you this is why people like Hitler were anti-semitic.
As was said, the Jewish people have always been tightly knit, is it then such a stretch to think they may be acting in some way on behalf of Israel?
I mean, Israel took the barren Palestinian land and turned it into paradise. How? Where did all that money come from?
Yea, anyway, I don't care. I'm just stating the facts Jack.
My point is that people need to be careful and responsible in what they say. you personally may have no negative feelings towards Jews, but when you irresponsibly say something like "the Jews control finance" you create the conditions in which someone else can take what you said and it can feed their real hatred for Jews. Your comment is therefore anti-semitic not because of what it necessarily reflects about you and your opinions, but because of the damage it can cause. It is a broad generalization that has a distinctly negative connotation.
I'm just stating the facts. I probably have Jewish blood in me. I have no idea. I personally don't care about where I come from or what my ancestors did, or even what my parents and siblings do.
But, some people, want to maintain that they are a "group" and then they will be treated as a "group" for all intents and purposes. That is the down-side of elitism.
Nothing, as far as I am concerned. I was just stating a fact in response to a post the answer is there... at the helm of these companies are jews. Just an answer, nothing else - no judgement. Do I care? No. As far as I'm concerned, they can be catholic, satan worshippers, atheists, muslims or whatever they want to be.
On the contrary. I have been educated both in the US and in various european countries. European teaching of history is a lot more indepth than in the US. Indepth but also broad...
You have got to be kidding me, I may be European but I did go to school.
As for the other part I left out, I'm not defending anyone, I just don't like the term nazi and names like Himmel and Heinrich tossed around loosely (and please don't tell me otherwise, this is a forum not a propaganda book from 1939!).
this is a fair point. what have we come to when we we are more uncomfortable about someone accusing others of being racist than about racism itself. And I understand that many of you truly do not feel that anything anti-semitic has been said on the train, but I think that is because you are all so well meaning that you do not want to accept the truth of it and so blind yourself to it when it's right in front of you.
Hitler, in my opinion, believed what he preached. I'm sure that Hitler truly believed that Jews controlled the world and were the enemies of Germany and so on. The point though is that the beliefs that motivated him were just that, beliefs. But that doesn't mean that what Hitler believed was true. He was motivated by his own hateful and paranoid fantasies.
That was my only point.
But Hitler wasn't the only one. He had many people within his "Nazi Party". It would seem there was enough evidence to convince not just Hitler but the entire Nazi party. Or did they have other motives?
I understand the general population was persuaded into it by propaganda, but what of Hitler's closest allies? Surely they were not all paranoid and psychotic.
Again, I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just trying to understand the motivation.
power and greed
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Yea, I could see that. They just went along with using Jews as a scapegoat to achieve their greedy goals.
I guess, I just have a hard time believing it actually happened that way. It seems that if it was that easy, it would happen everywhere, all the time. So then, I guess that implies that there is possibly a secret shadow world government.
Convenient way to disregard the 36 year illegal occupation.
Why should anybody accept Israels right to exist whilst it continues to illegally occupy Palestinian land and flout international law.
Why is the onus always, and only, on the Palestinians?