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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

    -- Hermann Göring (Nazi Party)
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

    -- Hermann Göring (Nazi Party)

    It isn't so much "dragging them along" as it is preying on their weakness. The weakness of the populice is the LIE, the BIG FAT LIE.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    It isn't so much "dragging them along" as it is preying on their weakness. The weakness of the populice is the LIE, the BIG FAT LIE.

    The weakness of what populus?

    The American?

    "Mission Accomplished"

    "Iraq War"

    "WMDs"

    "Chemical Weapons"

    Need I go on?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    You wouldn't think that if you were Hitler.

    Hitler had a good aim at driving the Rothschilds out along with the other usurers. He just had a monstrous method of achieving that goal, he also contracted Syphilis and was addicted to Methamphetamine. He believed that God spoke to him and told him to "take over the world".

    What the fuck?? You're right, I wouldn't think that if I was Hitler. I would be thinking that there are evil Jewish people out to get me, that I was the right hand of god, that it is my destiny to control the world, and that the best way to govern is throwing 6 million of my own countrymen into ovens.

    And what the fuck with the Rothchilds and the word 'userer'? Fucking idiot.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    What the fuck?? You're right, I wouldn't think that if I was Hitler. I would be thinking that there are evil Jewish people out to get me, that I was the right hand of god, that it is my destiny to control the world, and that the best way to govern is throwing 6 million of my own countrymen into ovens.

    And what the fuck with the Rothchilds and the word 'userer'? Fucking idiot.

    You like that word "Fuck" don't you?

    I can't blame you, it's a good word. Though I would encourage more cautious use of the word "idiot".

    I'm not going to give you a complete history of Usury and the Rothschilds and how that relates to Judaism. I'll let you read up on it yourself. There is a lot of information to absorb.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Wow I thought it was a type O too. I'm impressed, I'll give you 50 points for using it in a sentence. Hey that syphillis and Meth thing wasn't ever proven though right?
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  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    You like that word "Fuck" don't you?

    I can't blame you, it's a good word. Though I would encourage more cautious use of the word "idiot".

    I'm not going to give you a complete history of Usury and the Rothschilds and how that relates to Judaism. I'll let you read up on it yourself. There is a lot of information to absorb.

    Dude, first you are an idiot. Usury and the Rothchilds and their relation to Judaism, doesn't even fucking matter. Unless those two parties were 1) molesting children enmass, or 2) Secretly planning to kill humanity, there is no excuses for putting 6 million people in ovens. Hell, even if they were, you CANNOT KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS. Let alone 6,000,000 people. If you think otherwise, you are a blight on humanity, and you are a shit human being...and an idiot.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Wow I thought it was a type O too. I'm impressed, I'll give you 50 points for using it in a sentence. Hey that syphillis and Meth thing wasn't ever proven though right?

    I'm pretty sure it was proven. The controversy is if he had Neurosyphilis which affects the nervous system, including the brain. He may or may not have had it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm pretty sure it was proven. The controversy is if he had Neurosyphilis which affects the nervous system, including the brain. He may or may not have had it.

    I'm pretty sure he was psychotic and delusional prior to the syphilis.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Dude, first you are an idiot. Usury and the Rothchilds and their relation to Judaism, doesn't even fucking matter. Unless those two parties were 1) molesting children enmass, or 2) Secretly planning to kill humanity, there is no excuses for putting 6 million people in ovens. Hell, even if they were, you CANNOT KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS. Let alone 6,000,000 people. If you think otherwise, you are a blight on humanity, and you are a shit human being...and an idiot.

    All of it matters if you care to understand the events leading up to WW2. It matters to the motivation behind the Nazis. It wasn't just Hitler running the country.

    You are assuming that there was linear causality.

    E.g.

    German's were stressed -> Nazism
    Hitler was a monster -> Death of Jews.

    I can assure you the complexity is infinite.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    I'm pretty sure he was psychotic and delusional prior to the syphilis.

    That may be, it's even harder to prove that.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    Would you compare driving out the ROTHCHILDS usurers to our communist purging in the 50's and 60's?
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Would you compare driving out the ROTHCHILDS usurers to our communist purging in the 50's and 60's?

    It's more like how the U.S. drove the Bankers out under Pres. Andrew Jackson. Unfortunately he only won the battle, and the Federal Reserve was created later on from the Bank of America.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    German's were stressed -> Nazism
    Hitler was a monster -> Death of Jews.

    I can assure you the complexity is infinite.

    Honestly, you shouldn't talk about this to anyone until you know what the fuck you are talking about. You will look like a fucking idiot. Now, given the state of education today, maybe kids aren't learning history, so they may not call you out, but if you said this shit at a party I was at, I would fucking mock you to no end. The complexities are not infinite, and your timeline/rationale is wrong.

    German's left destitute by newly formed UN as payback for WWI--->They look for hope and better days---> a man comes and promises these things (secretly psychotic and paranoid)--->Nazi's come to power---> People buy into this rhetoric (they don't know Jews are already being killed)--->It becomes obvious after several years that exterminations are going on, the population turns a blind eye--->Nationalism (remember this part) and the fear of little else makes population follow enmass>>>Millions die, in ovens, on beaches, in cities, etc. You should have put Hitler was a Monster at the start. Idiot. Seriously, get fucking educated or don't talk about it.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    Honestly, you shouldn't talk about this to anyone until you know what the fuck you are talking about. You will look like a fucking idiot. Now, given the state of education today, maybe kids aren't learning history, so they may not call you out, but if you said this shit at a party I was at, I would fucking mock you to no end. The complexities are not infinite, and your timeline/rationale is wrong.

    German's left destitute by newly formed UN as payback for WWI--->They look for hope and better days---> a man comes and promises these things (secretly psychotic and paranoid)--->Nazi's come to power---> People buy into this rhetoric (they don't know Jews are already being killed)--->It becomes obvious after several years that exterminations are going on, the population turns a blind eye--->Nationalism (remember this part) and the fear of little else makes population follow enmass>>>Millions die, in ovens, on beaches, in cities, etc. You should have put Hitler was a Monster at the start. Idiot. Seriously, get fucking educated or don't talk about it.

    The Treaty of Versailles was a big part of it, but not all of it. It put financial stress on the country.

    "" Article 231 of the Treaty (the 'war guilt' clause) held Germany solely responsible for all 'loss and damage' suffered by the Allies during the war and provided the basis for reparations. The total sum due was decided by an Inter-Allied Reparations Commission and was set at £6.6 Billion, about $32 billion. This would have taken Germany till 1984 to pay."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_versailles
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    So, Hitler made the connection that the Treaty was destroying the country. On top of that he blamed it on the Jews because of Usury which originated with the Jews. The Rothschilds (Jews) controlled the European monetary systems and still do today.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The Treaty of Versailles was a big part of it, but not all of it. It put financial stress on the country.

    "" Article 231 of the Treaty (the 'war guilt' clause) held Germany solely responsible for all 'loss and damage' suffered by the Allies during the war and provided the basis for reparations. The total sum due was decided by an Inter-Allied Reparations Commission and was set at £6.6 Billion, about $32 billion. This would have taken Germany till 1984 to pay."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_versailles

    No shit, really!? That was part of the 'Germany was destitute' line. Tell you what, instead of reading part of what happened, go to wikipedia, get the whole story, then come back.
  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    I think anti-jewish sentiment was prevalent in Germany long before the nazis right?
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    No shit, really!? That was part of the 'Germany was destitute' line. Tell you what, instead of reading part of what happened, go to wikipedia, get the whole story, then come back.

    So, you admit that the Treaty of Versailles came before Hitler?

    Great, now maybe you will remember this part

    France wanted revenge, Britain wanted a relatively strong, economically viable Germany as a counterweight to French dominance on Continental Europe, and the U.S. wanted the creation of a permanent peace as quickly as possible, with financial compensation for its military expenditures and the destruction of the old empires.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    sapperskunk wrote:
    I think anti-jewish sentiment was prevalent in Germany long before the nazis right?

    Not that I know of. The arabs disliked Usury and incorporated into the Sharia Law that Usury be banned. This system of Usury allowed individuals to easy amass great wealth. It was kind of a Jewish secret of sorts. So, it could have happened that non-Jewish Germans (because many Germans were Jews) noticed that their Jewish counter-parts were better off. That may have given rise to some discontent.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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